Chiefs-Rams game being moved back to LA

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If yesterday’s giants/Whiners game was the mnf being played there I wonder if the nfl gives a crap.
Who knows? Might be some merit to the point. I heard plenty of talking heads say "No way the NFL wants to risk this super high profile, high speed game get dumbed down" (well... not a direct quote, but pretty much what I heard )
 

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No dice for me either. Just gonna end up going to Mexico now but have absolutely zero enthusiasm about it. freak the nfl.


I think the NFL is making a good decision on this one.

Now, maybe you could argue that they should have gotten some sort of field guarantee with the deal. The one Chiefs fan said that Aztecs is a horrible stadium in a bad part of the city. WTF was the NFL thinking in the first place? It may best of you don't need to go into that area.
 

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I can easily see the NFL reimbursing for game tickets. They also should have had some sort of contingency plans for fans who planned on traveling to the game like you. But this is the NFL we are talking about here,

You never know, might get some SB tix out of the deal LOL


seriously tho, good luck bro. I spent 3 grand to go watch that ass kicking the Rams got by the Pats in 2012 in London, if that makes you feel any better LOL
but you got to meet me so money well spent id say
 

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I was just alluding to this in another thread. Kind of crazy he guessed right with not moving his practice.

I dunno.

The Rams only lost two games on the road with McVay as HC... in Washington VERY early in his coaching time last year and in NO this year. This team does well on the road.

So... the Rams are together, things are more regimented and settled and there's more ability to focus.

Plus, all that training at altitude is only gonna help the Rams in this game.
 

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I dunno.

The Rams only lost two games on the road with McVay as HC... in Washington VERY early in his coaching time last year and in NO this year. This team does well on the road.

So... the Rams are together, things are more regimented and settled and there's more ability to focus.

Plus, all that training at altitude is only gonna help the Rams in this game.

actually the washington game was in la.

they lost at the vikings last season.

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No dice for me either. Just gonna end up going to Mexico now but have absolutely zero enthusiasm about it. freak the nfl.

Sorry that you got screwed. You never know, this might turn out to be a great vacation for you and your family, sometimes that’s how thing work out when the unexpected happens. Go enjoy yourself and hopefully you get to see our RAMS take down the Chiefs on the big screen....stay away from cocktails with ice.

GO RAMS
 

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“The league didn’t really include us, but I think we did a great job of going through the NFLPA, making sure they understood the concerns and getting those guys kinda in our corner,”

“Of course, they always are. Just understanding the concerns the guys had and that it’s a legitimate worry for guys. I think it’s important to realize that, one, it’s great for the PA to stand up for us and help us make sure guys are always taken care of and, two, that it’s awesome that guys voiced their concerns.

Also, hats off to the league for doing the right thing. You can’t always just say ‘hey, they’re trying to get us.’ When they do make a decision that’s in the best interest, regardless of the pressures, I think you have to say thank you for making a quality decision.” - Andrew Whitworth
 

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https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2018/11/14/nfl-rams-chiefs-mexico-city-international-games/

Mexico City blunder should serve as warning after costing NFL tens of millions
By: Cameron DaSilva

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The NFL is the most popular professional sports league in America. It produces the top television ratings across the country each year, has prime-time shows for things like schedule releases and fans come out in droves annually to see the future of the league at the draft.

What football isn’t, however, is the most popular sport in the world – not American football, at least. Soccer and even the NBA are miles ahead of the NFL in terms of worldwide popularity, and it’s not hard to see why. They’re both international sports with stars coming from all over the world, whereas the NFL typically gets its talent through colleges in the U.S.

The league isn’t sitting on its hands and allowing other sports to take over the globe, however. It’s taking a proactive approach by hosting a handful of games internationally each year. The three games in London last month went off without much of a hitch – Raiders-Seahawks was moved from the new Tottenham Stadium to Wembley Stadium in August – but that wasn’t the case in Mexico City.

As announced Tuesday, the NFL is moving Monday night’s showdown between the league-leading Rams and Chiefs from Estadio Azteca to the L.A. Memorial Coliseum because of terrible field conditions – the right decision, of course. Players threatened to sit out the game if it remained in Mexico City, essentially forcing the NFL’s hand and leading to the relocation.

There’s no shortage of revenue coming in each year for the league, but this will cost it a boatload of money, as well as plenty of embarrassment. This is a massive blunder for the NFL and Mexico City, regardless of which side is to blame.


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The financial implications of this gaffe are troubling, but that’s hardly the biggest issue coming out of this situation. The NFL had a golden opportunity with the 9-1 Rams and 9-1 Chiefs – a potential Super Bowl preview – playing on international soil.

Fans outside the U.S. have hardly been treated to exciting games. All five international games last year were decided by at least 17 points with an average margin of victory of 26.4 points. This year, the Seahawks beat the Raiders in London 27-3 before the Titans-Chargers and Eagles-Jaguars games were one-possession games.

This Rams-Chiefs matchup had the potential to be special. It comes with the largest over-under total in the history of the NFL at 63.5 with both teams averaging more than 33 points per game. It had the makings of a colossal win for the NFL when it comes to international games.

Instead, the league has some decisions to make and reevaluating to do about future games outside the U.S., including the possibility of playing a game in China next year.

There’s another game scheduled for Mexico City in 2019 and the deal to keep games there runs through 2021. Will this incident have any impact on that agreement? Maybe not, but Darren Rovell’s above tweet seems to suggest it could.

After all, the league has been talking about moving a team to either London or Mexico City. In no way does this stadium debacle help that case and it could create some pushback from players or other members of the organization.

Many players and coaches already dread playing internationally because of the scheduling conflicts it creates, so it’s not as if this will do anything to help those feelings.

Predicting this situation was difficult for the league, but the warning signs were there. A Shakira concert on Oct. 11 left the field in poor condition, but that was hardly the only reason for this game being moved, as some are saying on Twitter.

Here’s a look at the field after that event:


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A concert for Telehit, a Mexican TV network, on Nov. 7 – just 12 days before Chiefs-Rams – did even greater damage to the playing surface.

Take a look at the field after that show.


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Then, to make matters even worse, a soccer match was played at Estadio Azteca on Nov. 10, which prevented the grounds crew from doing the necessary work to get the field up to standards. Even without that game it would’ve been difficult, but that extra delay did nothing to help.

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The league should have seen this schedule and raised a few flags. A surprisingly rainy season in the area was obviously impossible to account for, but those two concerts in succession made for a difficult ask – one the crew in Mexico City couldn’t fulfill.

Let this be a warning sign for the NFL when it comes to international games. It was a golden opportunity to bring a marquee game to foreign soil, but the league and the city fell flat on its face. While expanding the game around the world is a big priority – and for good reason – it does come with some risks, as we all saw this week.
 

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Thank you everybody this thread was very funny reading. I feel for the people out of money but the blame the nfl for everything crowd is just comical. No matter what they did with this game people were going to blame the league.
 

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Is it ok to offer the opportunity for a rams fan on here to buy my tickets at face value since ill be in Mexico? The last thing i want is a queefs fan to end up in my seats. 19h row 16
 

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Thank you everybody this thread was very funny reading. I feel for the people out of money but the blame the nfl for everything crowd is just comical. No matter what they did with this game people were going to blame the league.

You bring up a good point, the NFL can't make grass grow.

This is an opportunity for them to create a huge PR win by doing something for fans that are out money for airline tickets. Going to Mexico City for an overnight trip or a couple of nights without the game on the schedule doesn't sound that appealing to me.

They have enough $$$ they can figure something out. Even if it's merchandise credits online. The markup is so high on that shit anyway it'll be a cheap win.
 

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Thank you everybody this thread was very funny reading. I feel for the people out of money but the blame the nfl for everything crowd is just comical. No matter what they did with this game people were going to blame the league.

So the NFL isn't responsible to ensure that a venue is ready prior to such an important event?

It is during their rainy season, which Mexico City has been rained on more than normal this year....Add a Shakira concert and a soccer game and the field is unplayable. The NFL is a multi-billion dollar business, and this is such an important event, why did they not ensure the field had time to recuperate? Buy out the field a week or two before the game (when the event is booked) if you have too, so that the field can be worked on. H.ell, they could have fixed the field in 14 days, no matter how bad it was prior to that. I listened to an expert in such things (KC Chiefs field guy) and the type of hybrid field they use in in Mexico City and London, could have been repaired in 14 days and MAYBE in 7 days....400 million dollars worth of professional players (contracts) and a possible sit out by some players, pressured the NFL to do the right thing. This all has the feeling of the NFL crossing their collective fingers 3 weeks before the game, knowing the weather and future events and hoping things would work out...

Yeah, that's a helluva way to run a railroad.
 

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Is it ok to offer the opportunity for a rams fan on here to buy my tickets at face value since ill be in Mexico? The last thing i want is a queefs fan to end up in my seats. 19h row 16


Of course it is... no problem.

I would recommend starting a new thread for that.
 

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So the NFL isn't responsible to ensure that a venue is ready prior to such an important event?

It is during their rainy season, which Mexico City has been rained on more than normal this year....Add a Shakira concert and a soccer game and the field is unplayable. The NFL is a multi-billion dollar business, and this is such an important event, why did they not ensure the field had time to recuperate? Buy out the field a week or two before the game (when the event is booked) if you have too, so that the field can be worked on. H.ell, they could have fixed the field in 14 days, no matter how bad it was prior to that. I listened to an expert in such things (KC Chiefs field guy) and the type of hybrid field they use in in Mexico City and London, could have been repaired in 14 days and MAYBE in 7 days....400 million dollars worth of professional players (contracts) and a possible sit out by some players, pressured the NFL to do the right thing. This all has the feeling of the NFL crossing their collective fingers 3 weeks before the game, knowing the weather and future events and hoping things would work out...

Yeah, that's a helluva way to run a railroad.
Is it an NFL owned stadium? I’m going to wager no. Did they have a contract with the people who own and operate the stadium to provide certain thing including but not exclusive to a suitable playing field? Again I’m gonna go out on a limb here and bet that they did. As Les said can the NFL make the grass grow faster and take root faster to make it a suitably safe playing surface? I’m gonna again bet they can’t. So by all means rage against Goodell and the other people who work for the owners it’s very entertaining to read. But I’m going to go out on that limb again and say the two groups of people at fault are the people who own and operate the stadium and the people who trashed the field while shaking their asses with Shakira up there on the stage.
 

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Is it an NFL owned stadium? I’m going to wager no. Did they have a contract with the people who own and operate the stadium to provide certain thing including but not exclusive to a suitable playing field? Again I’m gonna go out on a limb here and bet that they did. As Les said can the NFL make the grass grow faster and take root faster to make it a suitably safe playing surface? I’m gonna again bet they can’t. So by all means rage against Goodell and the other people who work for the owners it’s very entertaining to read. But I’m going to go out on that limb again and say the two groups of people at fault are the people who own and operate the stadium and the people who trashed the field while shaking their asses with Shakira up there on the stage.

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The NFL knows about the inconvenience put upon travelling fans too, and it’s the NFL who is going to go out of their way to take care of their fans - which they will - every fan’s greivence will be taken care of, through refunds, free tickets to premium venues, autographs, etc, the only people who care about you (fans that have been screwed by this) are Goodell and Co.

Certainly not the folks who run Azteca
 

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Is it an NFL owned stadium? I’m going to wager no. Did they have a contract with the people who own and operate the stadium to provide certain thing including but not exclusive to a suitable playing field? Again I’m gonna go out on a limb here and bet that they did. As Les said can the NFL make the grass grow faster and take root faster to make it a suitably safe playing surface? I’m gonna again bet they can’t. So by all means rage against Goodell and the other people who work for the owners it’s very entertaining to read. But I’m going to go out on that limb again and say the two groups of people at fault are the people who own and operate the stadium and the people who trashed the field while shaking their asses with Shakira up there on the stage.

"Is it an NFL owned stadium?" Of course not. But that shouldn't matter if certain things are contracted out out correctly

"Can the NFL make the grass grow faster?"

This is an ignorant statement, because the field is not just grass. It was a hybrid field of grass and natural fiber. They switched to this new system months ago, and it didn't take.
“Because it’s a new system where they use artificial fiber and they mix that in with the natural grass,” Toma said.
Bottom line, Toma thinks the new sod just didn’t take. “I would have sodded right on top of that field, getting the sod from Texas or even from Palm Desert,” he said.
From there, Toma said he would have mowed it short, aerated it, then used a system for seeding he calls pre-germination..
..[George Toma, groundskeeper of Kauffman Field and Arrowhead stadium]
https://www.kmbc.com/article/legend...s-azteca-field-could-have-been-saved/25071884

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that while Azteca stadium folks share responsibility, if the NFL had blocked out events at this stadium (allowing time for the field to be worked), two weeks in advance, we'd be playing the game in Mexico City on Monday Night.
 

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Is it ok to offer the opportunity for a rams fan on here to buy my tickets at face value since ill be in Mexico? The last thing i want is a queefs fan to end up in my seats. 19h row 16
How many tickets? Two? Cost? I'm in AZ, but may be interested in giving as a gift to my employees.