Celebration thread!!!! Lets watch Hawk Talk!

[dieterbrock]

What is this pointing out? We scored 10 pts in the 4th as well and more that Wilson through 3 Qtrs.

Stafford outplayed Wilson, and to add insult to injury so did Geno Smith (which was my original point)

 

[RamsFan4Life]

What is this pointing out? We scored 10 pts in the 4th as well and more that Wilson through 3 Qtrs.

everybody better than everybody

 

[Tano]

Could also have called illegal MEN downfield. Two of their linemen were downfield and the refs didn't take that into account!

Someone stated that you can have as many men downfield as you want on the second kick

It is a really F up rule.

I see the Rams submitting another rule change request just like the Brady rule of can't pass twice on the same play without losing a down.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Before my granddaughter was being carried to bed, she saw the game on my computer (was streaming Amazon) and got all happy when she saw the Rams.

I swapped avatars after the Blue Man backfired. She was fussing in her crib the entire game and fell asleep as soon as we won the game.

My grand baby knows good when she sees it!!!

OK. She still seems a little young but in six months, we expect her to be posting on this Forum.

Beautiful baby.

 

[Kupped]

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How many of those teams will be in the playoffs at the end of the year? My guess is 2.. Bucs and Cards.

 

[Kupped]

Matt Gay was rough, for sure.
But he nailed it at the end, which was big at the time.
Two years ago, Greg the Leg missed the same kick... the difference in a win and an a loss.

Mentioned before.. Skowronek and Jones making plays on Special Teams makes me excited about their potential. I just feel like guys who have good football instincts are the ones who make plays there. Littleton is a great example. Hopefully this bodes well for their future. Jones is pretty prototypical in size for an OLB, so would love to see another guy like him available.

 

[Jacobarch]

Could you elaborate on this a bit? For example could you name a few of ”Staleys“ plays that we ran that made you write this? Not asking for time stamps in the game or anything crazy just what kind of “Staley” coverages did you notice? What about “Staley“ Blitzes? Do you recognize the blitzes/coverages enough to name them?

Seems to me you’re just crediting good things to Staley and bad things to Morris.

Actually he's right. Morris likes to play a ton of zone coverage with Ramsey playing a star position. He took the Rams out of that and manned up against the hawks. Also played 5 on the Dline which Staley tended to do a lot. Less 10 yards off the receivers and more of a lockdown style of play.
However Morris went right back to his scheme as soon as geno went in and we saw the outcome of that. Reeder on Metcalf??? Rochelle on Metcalf??? Lol I mean you can't make that stuff up. I get once Williams got hurt you were limited on who covers who. But Reeder on Metcalf????? That's just LOL shit right there. .
Also I'm not sure if anyone caught this but on the very last drive, the same drive Scott picked off smiths pass. You can see mcVay look over to Morris and give him a head nod. Almost like they had a quick talk on what to do on the next Seattle possession. And even if Lockett doesn't trip and fall Scott was breaking on the ball and I doubt it would have been completed. Anyways just some thoughts

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

Stafford outplayed Wilson, and to add insult to injury so did Geno Smith (which was my original point)

Bro, I went back and re-read your original post. It must have been a combination of the whiskey and sleep deprivation, but I totally mis-read that last night.

I thought you said Stafford was outplayed by both Wilson and Geno LOL

 

[DeaconJones]

Who the hell is this dude that blocked the punt. Never heard of him. And props to special teams for finally making a play.

The punt was blocked by Jamir Jones, just picked up from Pittsburgh. If not for the bizarre spinning top - double punt scenario this would have been the play of the game. Credit to Dickson for the running kick (Aussie rules football experience helped there perhaps?). If Dickson had made the kick one yard further downfield (crossing the line of scrimmage), the Rams would have been 1st down at the Seattle 10 or 11 instead of our own 10 or 11.

 

[Psycho_X]

Matthew Stafford made this perfect no-look pass seem way too easy

Matthew Stafford pulled off a no-look pass again on Thursday night and it just happened to be his best throw of the game.

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Matthew Stafford made this perfect no-look pass seem way too easy​

Cameron DaSilva
Fri, October 8, 2021, 11:17 AM

Rams fans have learned in just five games that Matthew Stafford can make every throw in the book. He can even make the ones where he’s not looking at his intended receiver.

Very quietly, Stafford has become a master of the no-look pass, generating far less buzz than Patrick Mahomes does when he pulls of those throws. Yet, in just five games with the Rams, Stafford has already completed several no-look passes.
Against the Seahawks on Thursday night, you may have missed his awesome no-look throw to Robert Woods over the middle for a 20-yard gain. It wasn’t completely obvious when it happened, but plenty of hawk-eyed fans noticed it.
Here’s a look at the throw, which helped move the chains and set up a touchdown three plays later.

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As you can see, Stafford keeps his eyes on the underneath receiver, Cooper Kupp, to hold the cornerback where he was planted. That allowed Woods to sneak behind the second level, where Stafford hit him in the numbers for a 20-yard pickup.
It’s a bit easier to see from this goal line angle in slow-mo.

And once again, here’s another look at it. You can tell Stafford’s head is facing Kupp, but he throws slightly across his body to Woods before he even comes open.

That’s not a throw many quarterbacks will even attempt, let alone complete. Yet, Stafford put it right on the money between three defenders to move the chains.
These are the types of plays that set him apart from average quarterbacks and make him an upgrade over Jared Goff, like Sean McVay expected him to be. No one’s saying Goff would be a better quarterback if he could make no-look throws, but it’s Stafford’s ingenuity and vision that put him among the league’s top passers right now.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Actually he's right. Morris likes to play a ton of zone coverage with Ramsey playing a star position. He took the Rams out of that and manned up against the hawks. Also played 5 on the Dline which Staley tended to do a lot. Less 10 yards off the receivers and more of a lockdown style of play.
However Morris went right back to his scheme as soon as geno went in and we saw the outcome of that. Reeder on Metcalf??? Rochelle on Metcalf??? Lol I mean you can't make that stuff up. I get once Williams got hurt you were limited on who covers who. But Reeder on Metcalf????? That's just LOL shit right there. .
Also I'm not sure if anyone caught this but on the very last drive, the same drive Scott picked off smiths pass. You can see mcVay look over to Morris and give him a head nod. Almost like they had a quick talk on what to do on the next Seattle possession. And even if Lockett doesn't trip and fall Scott was breaking on the ball and I doubt it would have been completed. Anyways just some thoughts

IIRC Jalen at the star position was Staley’s idea. Conversations on whether he is there too much this year are valid but Moriss removing Jalen from the star on select plays does not mean anything.

zone and man coverage are not Staley’s concepts nor is running 5 on the d line. Those have been around forever and I can assure you Staley didn’t become a hot commodity simply by saying “let’s man up”


Staley’s genius was dictating where the opposing offense went with the ball amidst disguising his true defense with pre snap looks that we’re not indicative of post snap coverages.

I’d go into more detail but that would be counterproductive to my initial points. If you can’t recognize/articulate what is happening with our coverage concepts you can’t just say “oh we did good that was a Staley concept” “oh bad that’s on Morris.”

it doesn’t matter if you happen to be right on certain plays it’s about speaking on something you don’t actually understand and molding things to fit your narrative

and it’s funny in your reply you said actually he’s right as if I called him wrong. I just asked him to elaborate on the claims to see if he was reading a defense or building a narrative

 

[OldSchool]

And no you won’t get me sitting through an episode of Squawk talk. Don’t have enough alcohol l

 

[PhillyRam]

The punt was blocked by Jamir Jones, just picked up from Pittsburgh. If not for the bizarre spinning top - double punt scenario this would have been the play of the game. Credit to Dickson for the running kick (Aussie rules football experience helped there perhaps?). If Dickson had made the kick one yard further downfield (crossing the line of scrimmage), the Rams would have been 1st down at the Seattle 10 or 11 instead of our own 10 or 11.

Actually I think it would have been a 10 yrd penalty and re-kick. They can't decline it since he kicked it down to our 11. Great play by the kicker even if he would have went over the LOS .

 

[Merlin]

Mentioned before.. Skowronek and Jones making plays on Special Teams makes me excited about their potential. I just feel like guys who have good football instincts are the ones who make plays there. Littleton is a great example. Hopefully this bodes well for their future. Jones is pretty prototypical in size for an OLB, so would love to see another guy like him available.

Yeah and making plays on teams is a great way to get yourself opportunity on the field with the defense. Rams have a consistent history there. Jones made plays this preseason and it was why he got some notoriety among Steelers fans and here we are game 1 with the Rams and boom! I am really happy with this dude and his addition to the roster, he was a shrewd pickup.

That’s not a throw many quarterbacks will even attempt, let alone complete. Yet, Stafford put it right on the money between three defenders to move the chains.

Stafford can make elite throws look easy. And that shit being on tape makes defenses worried, it sucks as a defender when you can't trust the QB's eyes man, makes it so much harder on your drops.

But aside from all that what really matters going forward is Stafford having less swing in consistency on the average throws. Trying to be on a higher level with all that shit (eyes/safety control) is fine and all but sometimes in crucial situations just simplify shit and get that first down completion. IMO he's gotta find that balance and once he does we will hopefully see more consistent throws and this offense will mutate into something much more dangerous.

 

[Kupped]

Yeah and making plays on teams is a great way to get yourself opportunity on the field with the defense. Rams have a consistent history there. Jones made plays this preseason and it was why he got some notoriety among Steelers fans and here we are game 1 with the Rams and boom! I am really happy with this dude and his addition to the roster, he was a shrewd pickup.


Stafford can make elite throws look easy. And that shit being on tape makes defenses worried, it sucks as a defender when you can't trust the QB's eyes man, makes it so much harder on your drops.

But aside from all that what really matters going forward is Stafford having less swing in consistency on the average throws. Trying to be on a higher level with all that shit (eyes/safety control) is fine and all but sometimes in crucial situations just simplify shit and get that first down completion. IMO he's gotta find that balance and once he does we will hopefully see more consistent throws and this offense will mutate into something much more dangerous.

I completely missed on Skowronek.. must be my anti-Domers bias.. But the guy obviously is a football player and loves the game. I'm really looking forward to seeing him get a target or two.. I'm just interested in what a 6-3, 220 WR can do in this offense. As a second TE, in effect, I would think they could run or pass with him in the game. I'm sure he can block.

 

[Merlin]

I completely missed on Skowronek.. must be my anti-Domers bias.. But the guy obviously is a football player and loves the game. I'm really looking forward to seeing him get a target or two.. I'm just interested in what a 6-3, 220 WR can do in this offense. As a second TE, in effect, I would think they could run or pass with him in the game. I'm sure he can block.

On that note I do think Stafford loves big targets. He tends to put a lot of throws above his receivers too when they're near the sidelines and a lot of them of late have been overthrows. So yeah I am with you on that. Maybe guys like Skow and Harris as they start getting the offense down and get more snaps will really be felt down the stretch because of this. Stafford has no problem putting up contested passes that's for damn sure.

 

[majrleaged]

Yeah and making plays on teams is a great way to get yourself opportunity on the field with the defense. Rams have a consistent history there. Jones made plays this preseason and it was why he got some notoriety among Steelers fans and here we are game 1 with the Rams and boom! I am really happy with this dude and his addition to the roster, he was a shrewd pickup.


Stafford can make elite throws look easy. And that shit being on tape makes defenses worried, it sucks as a defender when you can't trust the QB's eyes man, makes it so much harder on your drops.

But aside from all that what really matters going forward is Stafford having less swing in consistency on the average throws. Trying to be on a higher level with all that shit (eyes/safety control) is fine and all but sometimes in crucial situations just simplify shit and get that first down completion. IMO he's gotta find that balance and once he does we will hopefully see more consistent throws and this offense will mutate into something much more dangerous.

Plus I would rather see him over throw Jackson. There never seems to be anybody over the top of Jackson when Stafford choses to throw to him. 33 wasn't going to get there at all if Stafford leads him. He was beat. The under throws are the only way the Defense has a chance to make a play. Staf needs to relax and let it fly. Jackson will run it down.

 

[Jacobarch]

IIRC Jalen at the star position was Staley’s idea. Conversations on whether he is there too much this year are valid but Moriss removing Jalen from the star on select plays does not mean anything.

zone and man coverage are not Staley’s concepts nor is running 5 on the d line. Those have been around forever and I can assure you Staley didn’t become a hot commodity simply by saying “let’s man up”


Staley’s genius was dictating where the opposing offense went with the ball amidst disguising his true defense with pre snap looks that we’re not indicative of post snap coverages.

I’d go into more detail but that would be counterproductive to my initial points. If you can’t recognize/articulate what is happening with our coverage concepts you can’t just say “oh we did good that was a Staley concept” “oh bad that’s on Morris.”

it doesn’t matter if you happen to be right on certain plays it’s about speaking on something you don’t actually understand and molding things to fit your narrative

and it’s funny in your reply you said actually he’s right as if I called him wrong. I just asked him to elaborate on the claims to see if he was reading a defense or building a narrative

You should watch this. You're right the 5 Dline gap and a half concept wasn't Staley's idea, it was chip Kelly's idea to slow down his own offensive philosophies that other teams were adopting. So there's that. Morris hasn't really ran the 5 Dline gap n half defense until last night. If he did put 5 on the Dline he was using Hollins in zone coverage flats which Staley almost never did and rightfully so. So to say they are running similar concepts it's just not the case. Ramsey playing a star position, when did we see Ramsey playing the slot and then come on a CB blitz last year? I can't recall him ever being asked to do so. They have also lined up Ramsey in the OLB position this season while the DE contains in the flats on a cover 3. Which Staley never did. So yes their concepts are wildly different from this year to last. Last night's game plan had last year's concepts in it more than we did previously in the first 4 games combined and it showed. Watch the film. Only allowing Shiteattle 7 points until late in the 3 quarter was very telling on how much more comfortable the Rams are playing in those concepts. Morris got away from that once smith came in and it was painfully obvious.


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[iamme33]

i have been trying to hold off on posts for a day so my post are not to emotional. now after a day i have some thought on the game.
# 1 is who needs a deep threat when we have cupp, woods and jefferson open at 10 to 20 yards all day long.
# 2 woods had great game. diffenently his best of the year.
# 3 that oline just keeps amazing me in fact they maybe getting better every week.
# 4 saffold seems to take a quarter to get going but once he starts going there is no stoping him.
# 5 higbee and henderson being slightly injured made me think we are a little short on runnig back and receiving tight end depth.
# 6 how do we block a punt and lose 70 yards just don't understand.
# 7 i bet we wussel has donald living in his head rent free.
# 8 i think mcvay needs to challenge more. some ref seem to get stuff wrong on us pretty regular.
# 9 is funk even playing on special teams.
#10 finally football is way funner when we win.

 

[NJRamsFan]

You should watch this.

I have read extensively on what made Staley's defense innovative and effective THAT is the entire point of this whole comment thread. I don't think most posters understand what they are saying when they essentially say be more like Staley.

You're right the 5 Dline gap and a half concept wasn't Staley's idea, it was chip Kelly's idea to slow down his own offensive philosophies that other teams were adopting. So there's that. Morris hasn't really ran the 5 Dline gap n half defense until last night.

I can't actually confirm or deny this off the top of my head to say he has not run it at all this year.

If he did put 5 on the Dline he was using Hollins in zone coverage flats which Staley almost never did and rightfully so.

Well Hollins hardly played prior to this year so anything he does can be categorized as something Staley never did.

So to say they are running similar concepts it's just not the case.

I didn't. Again I asked a poster to elaborate what coverages/pressures he was refereeing to.

Ramsey playing a star position, when did we see Ramsey playing the slot

Rams see versatile Jalen Ramsey as LeBron James-type player

Florida State product developing into enforcer near line of scrimmage

www.si.com

Quick excerpt:

"Staley said he created the “star” position, brought over from his days as defensive coordinator at Division III John Carroll University in Cleveland, Ohio, where he also played quarterback. The new role is a hybrid defensive back position like a slot defender that places Ramsey closer to the line of scrimmage so he can better impact the game."

and then come on a CB blitz last year? I can't recall him ever being asked to do so. They have also lined up Ramsey in the OLB position this season while the DE contains in the flats on a cover 3. Which Staley never did.

You're wrong here.

Directly from Staley himself:

“It’s a position that kind of combines several different skillsets,” Staley said. “You’re a little bit of a corner, you’re a little bit of a safety, a little bit of a linebacker -- inside linebacker and outside linebacker because you’re kind of a rusher too.

So yes their concepts are wildly different from this year to last.

A new coach running new concepts is not some groundbreaking ideal. I again was asking if the poster in question could identify what he was claiming or simply was attributing Morris success to Staley while the blame is only on Morris. It's an important distinction IMO because every time we give up a big play we can just default on "shoulda ran a Staley concept" when most don't even know what that means and its not like his concepts are perfect anyway....they too get beat.

Last night's game plan had last year's concepts in it more than we did previously in the first 4 games combined and it showed. Watch the film.

I'm 99% sure you just said this and didn't research it so not even going to go there.

Only allowing Shiteattle 7 points until late in the 3 quarter was very telling on how much more comfortable the Rams are playing in those concepts.

No that's just your conjecture.