Can Jacob Harris become more than a project?

[bubbaramfan]

Harris has a lot of catching up to do is he's wants to stick.

 

[dang]

We don’t know what we have in Harris yet but imagine him as another strong handed high point receiver. In the red zone, Robinson back right, Harris back left and Kupp short crossing as Staffords end zone targets. Then OBJ joins and put Harris as TE with a delayed release. Impossible to stop.

 

[PARAM]

What I did was rewatch the 2021 preseason. I really didn't watch much last year. Tutu, Harris, XJones, Bobby Brown, etc all showed promise. Harris had some nice catches as did Tutu. Tutu had a 35-40 yard PR as well as a 20 yard PR called back by penalty. Bobby Brown had moments but Chris Garrett was awesome. I am much more encouraged after watching it than I was after listening to Ram fans complain about Tutu and Harris.

 

[RamBall]

The truth of the matter is in McVays O it doesnt matter if a player is labeled as a WR or TE. Look at how often the Rams run 11 personnel and Kupp is blocking as if he were a TE, all the Rams WRs block or they dont get on the field.

 

[Kupped]

What I did was rewatch the 2021 preseason. I really didn't watch much last year. Tutu, Harris, XJones, Bobby Brown, etc all showed promise. Harris had some nice catches as did Tutu. Tutu had a 35-40 yard PR as well as a 20 yard PR called back by penalty. Bobby Brown had moments but Chris Garrett was awesome. I am much more encouraged after watching it than I was after listening to Ram fans complain about Tutu and Harris.

Brown had a couple of eye-popping plays.. with a hurt hand. Tremendous potential there to be an AShawn replacement.

Rams kept Garrett around.. hope it pays off!

 

[CGI_Ram]

We don’t know what we have in Harris yet but imagine him as another strong handed high point receiver. In the red zone, Robinson back right, Harris back left and Kupp short crossing as Staffords end zone targets. Then OBJ joins and put Harris as TE with a delayed release. Impossible to stop.

Yeah. This seems like the plan now.

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

He's not either. He lacks certain skills that are required in both domains.
I will be surprised if he sticks around.

Yeah, this is where I'm at for the most part. Heh....I still remember being told all the things Brian Leonard could do. You know, Running Back, back up Full back, 3rd down specialist, Special Teams secret weapon, etc. On and on ad infinitum ad nauseum.
At the end of the day the correct answer was "none of the above."

I've grown leery over the years with certain players being hyped on all the roles and various and sundry ways they can benefit the team. However, when all is said and done it just never really works out like people had hoped.
Now I will say I hope I am wrong with Mr. Harris, but the track record for these type of projects ain't good.
Just sayin'...

~ArkyRamsFan~

 

[Oregonram]

The very nature of the question for your post tells us how he may be dangerous. WR speed in a very tall body. Big bust potential, big possible reward. Let’s hope for reward.

 

[PARAM]

Yeah, this is where I'm at for the most part. Heh....I still remember being told all the things Brian Leonard could do. You know, Running Back, back up Full back, 3rd down specialist, Special Teams secret weapon, etc. On and on ad infinitum ad nauseum.
At the end of the day the correct answer was "none of the above."

I've grown leery over the years with certain players being hyped on all the roles and various and sundry ways they can benefit the team. However, when all is said and done it just never really works out like people had hoped.
Now I will say I hope I am wrong with Mr. Harris, but the track record for these type of projects ain't good.
Just sayin'...

~ArkyRamsFan~

True. Depending on the staff that drafts the player. Do they need the player to be THAT guy or are they capable of making him THAT guy?

I can't help but be more confident this staff can both identify traits AND develop them. Not so much with previous regimes.

 

[nighttrain]

Yeah, this is where I'm at for the most part. Heh....I still remember being told all the things Brian Leonard could do. You know, Running Back, back up Full back, 3rd down specialist, Special Teams secret weapon, etc. On and on ad infinitum ad nauseum.
At the end of the day the correct answer was "none of the above."

I've grown leery over the years with certain players being hyped on all the roles and various and sundry ways they can benefit the team. However, when all is said and done it just never really works out like people had hoped.
Now I will say I hope I am wrong with Mr. Harris, but the track record for these type of projects ain't good.
Just sayin'...

~ArkyRamsFan~

difference between Leonard and Harris?

one drafted and coached by J Fisher

one drafted and coached by Sean McVay

huge

train

 

[rdlkgliders]

A project with a lot of athleticism at the moment. Stay cautiously optimistic

 

[So Ram]

A project with a lot of athleticism at the moment. Stay cautiously optimistic

Agree - I’d say a nice 3rd down & red zone WR.He still needs to work hard on his blocking skills.

 

[So Ram]

Yeah, this is where I'm at for the most part. Heh....I still remember being told all the things Brian Leonard could do. You know, Running Back, back up Full back, 3rd down specialist, Special Teams secret weapon, etc. On and on ad infinitum ad nauseum.
At the end of the day the correct answer was "none of the above."

I've grown leery over the years with certain players being hyped on all the roles and various and sundry ways they can benefit the team. However, when all is said and done it just never really works out like people had hoped.
Now I will say I hope I am wrong with Mr. Harris, but the track record for these type of projects ain't good.
Just sayin'...

~ArkyRamsFan~

There is a total difference. Plus Leonard was traded & was a nice rotational RB. Maybe Matthew Stafford could tell you the difference?

Flopenstien coming out of Colorado really set The Rams back as well as the WR the Rams signed as a FA.

Harris is just a late round draft pick who has a nice skill set. He was a college soccer player,not really a football player? How many total years has Harris played football? 5 total now ?

 

[1maGoh]

difference between Leonard and Harris?

one drafted and coached by J Fisher

one drafted and coached by Sean McVay

huge

train

Good point. We'll never know how many of those guys were capable starters/ role players but limited by the coaching staff, compared to how many were less than JAGs drafted by a terrible coaching staff.

 

[Mister Sin]

I look at him similarly to Jimmy Graham. Big, Fast…tall. Unpolished. I believe Jimmy was the one who was fighting to be franchise tagged as a WR because he lined up outside more than on the line.

 

[dieterbrock]

I think the more appropriate question is, "Is Jacob Harris a PS player next year, or is there a spot on the 53?"

 

[So Ram]

I think the more appropriate question is, "Is Jacob Harris a PS player next year, or is there a spot on the 53?"

What seems to get over looked or overrated on a negative side is a player’s health. Rehab to a player means different things. Sometimes if a player is boarderline injured a team can use it for protection added time to get 100%.This is a touchy outlet that is between player,team, & medical.
In some cases a team has to buy out the players contract? It’s about control sometimes ?
—Just a topic that is in a grey area & some fans say it’s more about a player always being injured.There is a fine line because players play hurt all the time even when it is not best for either side as well.This way it works out for both sometimes knowing you have enough time to rehab & are available if there’s an opening.

 

[BonifayRam]

Can Jacob Harris become more than a project?​

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Perhaps the most interesting part about Jacob Harris is that he is relatively new to the game of football, as he started playing in his senior season of high school. Before then, he was primarily a soccer player, and was so gifted at it that he earned a division 1 scholarship to play soccer for Florida Gulf Coast. However, Harris would be lured away from soccer, and eventually walked on to both Western Kentucky and UCF before earning a mid-season scholarship at UCF.

Playing only one season where he saw significant playing time, Harris had a solid final season, hauling in 30 passes for 8 total touchdowns and 539 receiving yards. Not bad for a man who was in just his 5th year of organized football.

One red flag on Harris as a wide receiver is that he is extremely raw when it comes to route running, which is a recipe for disaster when going up against the elite level corners that he will see in the NFL. That is why coach McVay and Les Snead selected Harris to, hopefully, become a tight end at some point. Harris, once again, is only 211 pounds, which is awfully slim for a position that blocks linebackers and defensive lineman as much as they go out on patterns. In order to make the switch, Harris would have to put on a little bit of weight, which is doable considering the programs these elite level athletes have access to.

In my opinion, Harris can indeed become an actual threat in this Rams offense. The issue is, I feel as if the only real chance is if he becomes a full-time tight end, as he simply lacks the skills to get any real separation on NFL caliber corners. Put him against safeties and linebackers, then I believe it is an entirely different ball game. Hopefully Harris fully commits to becoming a tight end, and blossoms into a real matchup nightmare for defenses for years to come.

Do you guys think Jacob Harris can become more than a project, or will his rawness stop him from being anything more than a special teamer?

 

[Tano]

If he can catch those red zone passes, then he is an asset. He dropped quite a few in the preseason IIRC.

Otherwise, he is a PS player until he bulks up.

 

[OntarioRam]

I am not sold on Harris. He is super raw and athletic. Expectedly so, as has not been playing football for very long. So he might well improve tremendously. He has the physical tools. Time will tell. The jury is still out. But all I saw last pre-season was an offense that kept force-feeding him, against B-level defenders, and he still struggled to make plays at an acceptable rate. For every play he made he failed to make two others. Especially in the red zone. Not good enough for an NFL roster. Especially one of the Rams' calibre. What looked particularly unfavourable to me is that he does not appear to be a natural catcher of the football, or to have much fight for the football in him. He has been playing college and now professional ball for a while now. Those are 2 basic traits you would expect to see coming out by now.

Fingers crossed. But I don't think he ever manages to rise up the depth chart here. Perhaps he could catch on in another organisation. I don't see him passing enough players on the Rams depth chart to get snaps.