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Regardless I'm going to be cheering for Sam like I did Kurt...now it just comes with icing on that cake.
BRADFORD TRADED FOR FOLES (IN SUPER UPPER-CASE TO DETER DUPLICATE THREADS)
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If we don't get OL help via FA's then we HAVE to do it in the draft. The only sure things are Saffold and and Robinson. Outside of that we have a ton of ??? along the line.
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The injury doesn't have anything to do with it in my mind. Would you prefer Fletcher? I'm just talking about us dumping a player only to have us regret it.
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Sam is a great kid and just got a raw deal here. I truly hope he comes back and lives up to all his talent. Forget the $$ he made, he deserves it IMO as a human being.
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With Sam Bradford gone, Rams must establish run-first identity
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...am-bradford-gone-rams-must-establish-identity
EARTH CITY, Mo. -- Before the start of the 2013 season, the St. Louis Rams attempted to build their offense around quarterback Sam Bradford. They drafted receivers Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey and signed offensive tackle Jake Long and tight end Jared Cook with the intent to spread things out and have Bradford pile up the video-game numbers he did when he won the Heisman Trophy at Oklahoma.
The experiment was a monumental bust and lasted all of four games before Rams coach Jeff Fisher scuttled it. Fisher and the Rams went back to a grind-it-out philosophy that brought stability to the offense, but mediocre results in the win column.
Three games later, on Oct. 20, 2013, Bradford played in what would be his final regular-season game as a member of the Rams against Carolina. He tore the ACL in his left knee and missed the rest of that season. He bounced back in time for the 2014 preseason only to suffer the same injury again. Of a possible 80 games, Bradford played in 49 in five seasons.
On Tuesday, the Rams sent Bradford to Philadelphia in exchange for quarterback Nick Foles. The Rams also received Philadelphia's 2015 fourth-round pick and 2016 second-round pick, the Eagles got the Rams' 2015 fifth-round pick. If Bradford plays less than 50 percent of the snaps in 2015, the Eagles get a 2016 fourth-round pick from the Rams. If Bradford does not play this season, the Eagles get a 2016 third-round pick from the Rams. If Bradford plays more than 50 percent of the snaps in 2015, the Eagles get no additional picks.
Nick Foles
Nick Foles had 46 touchdown passes and 17 interceptions in 28 career games with the Philadelphia Eagles.
In Foles, the Rams are getting a fresh start at the game's most important position, albeit one with limitations who has yet to prove he can consistently perform in an offense outside of what Chip Kelly does in Philadelphia.
Foles should be an upgrade over Bradford by the simple act of being healthy and cost-effective. His 2015 cap number is just shy of $1.7 million. Although Foles is coming off a clavicle injury, his medical history doesn't approach Bradford's. But really, if the Rams are to become what Fisher wants them to become, Foles should only play a minor role.
In trading Bradford, the Rams gained nearly $13 million in salary-cap savings, which puts them in the range of $28 million in available space. Time and again, Fisher has emphasized the need for his team to win with a dominant defense and a power running game.
"I don't think it's any different than anybody else," Fisher said at last month's scouting combine. "It's a run game. You need to run the football and you need to complement your play-action game to the run game and play good defense and play good special teams. You know, everybody will tell you, if you got a top-five or six defense and you can run the football, you've got a chance to be in the final four. That's the very basic theory."
It's a theory that might sound good on the surface, but is much more difficult in execution. In Seattle, that very basic theory has worked wonders, but only because the Seahawks have a truly dominant defense and a run game to match.
In three seasons with Fisher as the head coach, the Rams have averaged 106.3 rushing yards per game, which ranks 19th, and an average of 4.1 yards per carry, which ranks 17th. Meanwhile, Seattle's rushing attack is first in yards per game and second in yards per carry in that span.
The pieces for a dominant defense look to be in place, but if the Rams are to become what Fisher wants, they must make haste to ensure the running game can meet that standard.
As the Rams were pulling off the Bradford-Foles swap Tuesday afternoon, the rest of the league was busy signing top free agents. After releasing center Scott Wells and tackle Jake Long and with Joe Barksdale and Davin Joseph set to hit unrestricted free agency, the Rams could need as many as three new starters on the offensive line.
However, now that the Rams have the money, many of the types of players who would seem to fit into what the Rams want are already gone. Center Rodney Hudson is headed to the Oakland Raiders, the San Diego Chargers landed guard/tackle Orlando Franklin and guard Mike Iupati is off to Arizona. Signing high-priced offensive linemen hasn't worked out well for the Rams in the past, but if they're willing to make a bold move by ridding themselves of Bradford, this is the time to buoy those moves by pushing their chips in and trying to legitimately become what Fisher wants.
Taking it a step further, while the Rams like their young group of running backs, including Tre Mason, chasing a top back such as DeMarco Murray or even, as crazy as it sounds, Adrian Peterson, would make even more sense. Fisher's Tennessee teams enjoyed their greatest success in the prime years of Eddie George and Chris Johnson.
Fisher and his staff are entering their fourth season without so much as a winning record to show for it. Along the way, we've only seen small glimpses of the Rams becoming what he has envisioned since he arrived in 2012.
For better or worse, trading Bradford gives the Rams the money and opportunity to help realize that vision. It's incumbent on Fisher and his group to see it through before it's too late and, like Bradford, they too are on their way out the door.
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...am-bradford-gone-rams-must-establish-identity
EARTH CITY, Mo. -- Before the start of the 2013 season, the St. Louis Rams attempted to build their offense around quarterback Sam Bradford. They drafted receivers Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey and signed offensive tackle Jake Long and tight end Jared Cook with the intent to spread things out and have Bradford pile up the video-game numbers he did when he won the Heisman Trophy at Oklahoma.
The experiment was a monumental bust and lasted all of four games before Rams coach Jeff Fisher scuttled it. Fisher and the Rams went back to a grind-it-out philosophy that brought stability to the offense, but mediocre results in the win column.
Three games later, on Oct. 20, 2013, Bradford played in what would be his final regular-season game as a member of the Rams against Carolina. He tore the ACL in his left knee and missed the rest of that season. He bounced back in time for the 2014 preseason only to suffer the same injury again. Of a possible 80 games, Bradford played in 49 in five seasons.
On Tuesday, the Rams sent Bradford to Philadelphia in exchange for quarterback Nick Foles. The Rams also received Philadelphia's 2015 fourth-round pick and 2016 second-round pick, the Eagles got the Rams' 2015 fifth-round pick. If Bradford plays less than 50 percent of the snaps in 2015, the Eagles get a 2016 fourth-round pick from the Rams. If Bradford does not play this season, the Eagles get a 2016 third-round pick from the Rams. If Bradford plays more than 50 percent of the snaps in 2015, the Eagles get no additional picks.
Nick Foles
Nick Foles had 46 touchdown passes and 17 interceptions in 28 career games with the Philadelphia Eagles.
In Foles, the Rams are getting a fresh start at the game's most important position, albeit one with limitations who has yet to prove he can consistently perform in an offense outside of what Chip Kelly does in Philadelphia.
Foles should be an upgrade over Bradford by the simple act of being healthy and cost-effective. His 2015 cap number is just shy of $1.7 million. Although Foles is coming off a clavicle injury, his medical history doesn't approach Bradford's. But really, if the Rams are to become what Fisher wants them to become, Foles should only play a minor role.
In trading Bradford, the Rams gained nearly $13 million in salary-cap savings, which puts them in the range of $28 million in available space. Time and again, Fisher has emphasized the need for his team to win with a dominant defense and a power running game.
"I don't think it's any different than anybody else," Fisher said at last month's scouting combine. "It's a run game. You need to run the football and you need to complement your play-action game to the run game and play good defense and play good special teams. You know, everybody will tell you, if you got a top-five or six defense and you can run the football, you've got a chance to be in the final four. That's the very basic theory."
It's a theory that might sound good on the surface, but is much more difficult in execution. In Seattle, that very basic theory has worked wonders, but only because the Seahawks have a truly dominant defense and a run game to match.
In three seasons with Fisher as the head coach, the Rams have averaged 106.3 rushing yards per game, which ranks 19th, and an average of 4.1 yards per carry, which ranks 17th. Meanwhile, Seattle's rushing attack is first in yards per game and second in yards per carry in that span.
The pieces for a dominant defense look to be in place, but if the Rams are to become what Fisher wants, they must make haste to ensure the running game can meet that standard.
As the Rams were pulling off the Bradford-Foles swap Tuesday afternoon, the rest of the league was busy signing top free agents. After releasing center Scott Wells and tackle Jake Long and with Joe Barksdale and Davin Joseph set to hit unrestricted free agency, the Rams could need as many as three new starters on the offensive line.
However, now that the Rams have the money, many of the types of players who would seem to fit into what the Rams want are already gone. Center Rodney Hudson is headed to the Oakland Raiders, the San Diego Chargers landed guard/tackle Orlando Franklin and guard Mike Iupati is off to Arizona. Signing high-priced offensive linemen hasn't worked out well for the Rams in the past, but if they're willing to make a bold move by ridding themselves of Bradford, this is the time to buoy those moves by pushing their chips in and trying to legitimately become what Fisher wants.
Taking it a step further, while the Rams like their young group of running backs, including Tre Mason, chasing a top back such as DeMarco Murray or even, as crazy as it sounds, Adrian Peterson, would make even more sense. Fisher's Tennessee teams enjoyed their greatest success in the prime years of Eddie George and Chris Johnson.
Fisher and his staff are entering their fourth season without so much as a winning record to show for it. Along the way, we've only seen small glimpses of the Rams becoming what he has envisioned since he arrived in 2012.
For better or worse, trading Bradford gives the Rams the money and opportunity to help realize that vision. It's incumbent on Fisher and his group to see it through before it's too late and, like Bradford, they too are on their way out the door.
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But yo
eerily similar to his college career...one heck of a gamble at this point based upon history.
But you seem more willing to "assume" we'll regret it, based upon what exactly? This kid hasn't played in nearly 2 years,
eerily similar to his college career...one heck of a gamble at this point based upon history.
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According to this, we get 4th this year and second next year. Also, how is Sam the better QB again? Seriously... how?? More and more happy about this trade....
According to this, we get 4th this year and second next year. Also, how is Sam the better QB again? Seriously... how?? More and more happy about this trade....
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I get the differences. Really I do. And what do you suppose many will be thinking if Sam does that for Philly?
I'm not even saying that I don't understand the trade and why many would be excited about it. I'm not because I don't view Foles as the answer but as soon as I see him in Horns I am going to cheer him on as the next coming and hope Sam the best unless he's playing us or is in position to knock us out of the playoffs..
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Coming back after a couple hours of cooling down from what I thought was a disaster. I now like this trade, heck I love it. We got good value back, cleared some cap space and have some flexibility to make some more moves if needed.
Good luck Sam wish you nothing but goodwill except when you play the Rams
Good luck Sam wish you nothing but goodwill except when you play the Rams
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I don't assume anything. And if I did? I'd base it on a recent memory that never did set well with me. I just hope we don't regret this. I hope instead we made a great move.
I've made no secret of what I view as the skill set of Foles. Doesn't matter though as long as he gets in there and helps our team.
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I knew what you were saying lol and sad to see Sam go but excited about a fresh start at QB. Not my first choice in Foles but I really believe this team is a competent QB away from winning the NFC West
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Freaking crazy trade. I like Sam a lot, I stick up for him all the time out here. Hell as recent as just yesterday. Hope he goes on to successful and I'm excited to see what Foles can do for us.
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Listening to NFL network they all think the Eagles are crazy if they think any team is going to take Bradford in a package deal to jump up to get Mariota.
This deal sounds better and better for us.
This deal sounds better and better for us.
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The Rams have reportedly traded Sam Bradford to Philadelphia in exchange for QB Nick Foles. Randy Karraker and D’Marco Farr of 101ESPN The Fast Lane reacts to the news.
Listen to Karraker/Farr Talk Bradford Trade
Listen to Karraker/Farr Talk Bradford Trade
