Bobby Wagner Released

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ottoman89

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No deal is signed yet. But I'm sure he's coming to sign a deal after talks.
 

jjab360

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It seems to me like Wagner is more interested in the Rams than the Rams are in Wagner. Mainly due to how little value they seem to place on the ILB position and the fact that I don't believe he's played much in the 3-4 though that shouldn't matter much since the positions are basically interchangeable.

That being said, he's obviously one of the top defensive players in the league and I think we'd be willing to make a deal to bring in a productive leader if the contract is right. I think they'd be willing to use some of that money that was set aside for Von for another stud player on the D. Let's hope we get it done!
 

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".......One of the only issues for the Rams last season was coverage against tight ends. Players at this position caught a resounding 72% of their targets against Los Angeles.......":wow2::sur::(:wtf:

"That’s magnified by his
(Wagner) own struggles in coverage last season (97.9 QB rating allowed)".


 
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One area that the Rams are ahead of many front offices in is contingency plans. In losing out on Miller, they didn't just try to go sign any old pass rusher off the street (many of which, who remain, wouldn't be a good fit at OLB as they're strictly 4-3 ends) but focused more on how do we make the whole team better and not just band aid a position.

Que bringing in Robinson and shopping Woods.

And now we have Wagner who is arguably a better upgrade to the entire defense than any mediocre and non-scheme fit OLB we could bring in. He still offers good coverage ability, strong tackling and BLITZ ability (imagine a LB who blitzes better than Troy Reeder and can also play LB!!!). Bringing him in may lead us to play more 2 LB schemes as opposed to 3 safety schemes as his ability in almost all areas is better than what bringing in one of our 3rd safeties can offer.

Is he as good a net positive as Miller? No. But he'll offer greater help to the defense overall than any other position besides corner (which they Rams will address) right now.

Rams will pivot, defense will pivot. I think it could work out great for 1-2 years.
 

AZRams

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Am I alone in fearing Clay Matthews 2.0?
 

AZRams

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I don't fear a CM2.0. Clay was pretty clearly washed up before he got here. Wagner is still playing at a high level.
My clearest memory of Matthews is how he seemingly ruined Nick Foles in the game at GB in 2015.

And how he was kicked to the curb after one season with the Rams...
 

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What?! Matthews was productive here, he had 8 sacks and 2 forced fumbles. Sign me up for that fear.
Yeah, I thought Matthews performed pretty much at expectation the year he was brought in, wouldn't say that was a disappointing move at all