Black Monday and the Coaching Carousel

[OldSchool]

Aaron Rodgers is only four years younger than his new head coach.

 

[den-the-coach]

Just want to put this out there...Many pundits reported that the Josh McDaniels jilting of the Indianapolis Colts would not factor into teams being interested because of the need for creative offensive minds...Well, Josh McDaniels, just lost out to a guy, who has never been a Head Coach at any level and was only an offensive coordinator at tiny Ashland College in 2007 and only called plays at the NFL level for one year for an offense that was rated 27th overall....Again IMO, Josh McDaniels will only stay in New England! Wish LaFleur the best, just not against his Professor.

 

[Merlin]

Just want to put this out there...Many pundits reported that the Josh McDaniels jilting of the Indianapolis Colts would not factor into teams being interested because of the need for creative offensive minds...Well, Josh McDaniels, just lost out to a guy, who has never been a Head Coach at any level and was only an offensive coordinator at tiny Ashland College in 2007 and only called plays at the NFL level for one year for an offense that was rated 27th overall....Again IMO, Josh McDaniels will only stay in New England! Wish LaFleur the best, just not against his Professor.

What's funny is that while he's a prick I have to think McDaniels' experience makes him much more ready to do the job. IMO the LaFleur hire will prove to be a bad one, don't think he's ready.

 

[jrry32]

What's funny is that while he's a prick I have to think McDaniels' experience makes him much more ready to do the job. IMO the LaFleur hire will prove to be a bad one, don't think he's ready.

Yeah, I don't subscribe to that notion. How many of the retreads who were shit the first time ended up being shit again? McDaniels is a prick who doesn't connect well with players (and is an overrated offensive mind to top it all off). I wouldn't hire him as HC.

 

[jrry32]

Just want to put this out there...Many pundits reported that the Josh McDaniels jilting of the Indianapolis Colts would not factor into teams being interested because of the need for creative offensive minds...Well, Josh McDaniels, just lost out to a guy, who has never been a Head Coach at any level and was only an offensive coordinator at tiny Ashland College in 2007 and only called plays at the NFL level for one year for an offense that was rated 27th overall....Again IMO, Josh McDaniels will only stay in New England! Wish LaFleur the best, just not against his Professor.

It sounds to me like the Packers were down to LaFleur and Monken. I don't think it was McDaniels who pulled his name.

 

[Mikey Ram]

LeFleur scores a big time Head Coach job...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-to-hire-titans-oc-matt-lafleur-as-head-coach

 

[Memento]

Good luck to LaFleur - at least, until he plays us.

 

[Legatron4]

The Sean McVay effect in full....effect.

 

[Merlin]

Yeah, I don't subscribe to that notion. How many of the retreads who were crap the first time ended up being crap again? McDaniels is a prick who doesn't connect well with players (and is an overrated offensive mind to top it all off). I wouldn't hire him as HC.

Prick aside... Look how many years McDaniels has worked under Belichick, and he's put up some excellent offensive teams. LaFleur is a good young coach who's not a prick, but has one real season as OC under his belt where it was his show. I think the difference between them is enormous and that's not being a big fan of McDaniels.

 

[jrry32]

Prick aside... Look how many years McDaniels has worked under Belichick, and he's put up some excellent offensive teams. LaFleur is a good young coach who's not a prick, but has one real season as OC under his belt where it was his show. I think the difference between them is enormous and that's not being a big fan of McDaniels.

He hasn't put up excellent offensive teams outside of NE. And working under Belichick for a long time isn't a selling point for me.

 

[Prime Time]

Bruce Arians interview with the Bucs included his doctor. Starts at 10:24


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=628&v=iX_V6xRBmzc

 

[NERamsFan]

Packers with with an awful hire! Too soon for our former OC.

 

[Merlin]

I could see Arians taking the Buccaneer job because he lives close to Tampa and the likes of Todd Bowles (DC) & Hunter Goodwin (OC) are available. Buccaneers General Manager Jason Licht worked for the Arizona Cardinals back in 2013 when the Cardinals hired Arians in 2013 so there is a prior relationship.

I suspect he took the only job he could get, i.e. the only team that wanted to risk hiring a HC who could fall out at any time for medical reasons.

Dude is all bluster and BS.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Packers with with an awful hire! Too soon for our former OC.

Wasn't he part of ratboy's staff in Atlanta?

Maybe the packers wanted new ideas.

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[den-the-coach]

Packers with with an awful hire! Too soon for our former OC.

I concur 27th rated offense in his only opportunity to call plays

 

[jrry32]

I suspect he took the only job he could get, i.e. the only team that wanted to risk hiring a HC who could fall out at any time for medical reasons.

Dude is all bluster and BS.

Mr. Bluster and BS gets results. I think Arians is an asshole, but he's also a damn good HC. That was the first good hire TB has made in a good while.

 

[Merlin]

Mr. Bluster and BS gets results. I think Arians is an icehole, but he's also a damn good HC. That was the first good hire TB has made in a good while.

I agree it's a good hire for Tampa (edit: if he can stay the course wrt health). Not sure he and Winston will be able to coexist, however, so we'll see.

 

[jrry32]

I agree it's a good hire for Tampa (edit: if he can stay the course wrt health). Not sure he and Winston will be able to coexist, however, so we'll see.

As I said previously, I think Winston is a good fit for his system.

 

[TSFH Fan]

LaFleur?

My opinion of the moment is that LaFleur's success/failure is going to rely on whether he gets along with Rodgers -- not really X's and O's, talent evaluation/development, great motivational speeches or anything "coach-like", but on how he handles that one guy on the team, the franchise super star. So, for talk about experience, I'm not sure there's anything that can prepare any coach to handle Rodgers, and because of which, I don't see the supposed lack of experience as any big deal.

I mean, it's almost like an NBA coaching situation with the big ego superstar. Veteran Rudy T won a couple championships but couldn't last a year coaching Kobe. Tyronn Lue, as an interim head coach in his first try at head coaching, got LeBron to win a Championship for Cleveland. Lue was credited with being able to get in LeBron's face and actually coach the big ego superstar.

Before the Rams hired McV, they stuck him in a room with Goff and got Goff's feedback. I like to think the Packers did the same type of thing before hiring LaFleur. So assuming LaFleur passed the discount double check and got Rodgers' blessing, things should go smoothly for at least the first few weeks. If they hired LaFleur without Rodgers' feedback, then yeah, this has fail written all over it.

Also, talk is that they're going to keep Pettine to handle the Defense, providing some continuity and a veteran coach in the locker room.

Best wishes to LaFleur except when the Pack play the Rams and when we need the Pack to lose.

 

[Ramer]

Wasn't he part of ratboy's staff in Atlanta?

Maybe the packers wanted new ideas.

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Every team hoping to hit on the next Sean McVay