Back Up QB to goff

[Soul Surfer]

If McVay and Snead are happy with Mannion, and it seems like they are, I'm good with that. Next year, however, might be a different story.

Yeah, Sean Mannion's contract is up after this year so we will see some activity there next year I would think.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Matt Moore would be an upgrade over Mannion.

I haven't really seen enough of Mannion in real game time situations and settled down to make a opinion on him one way or the other.

I'll stick with the coaches opinion on this one.

I remember quite a few fans saying that the multi-millionaire Keenum and Super Bowl MVP Foles were bums as well.

 

[RamFan503]

Brandon Allen offers something different than Goff or Mannion. Allen has mobility I have always felt your backup should offer something different from the starter to throw off the defense. Liked Allen at Arkansas, but I believe we will see plenty of Mannion & Allen during preseason as Goff should just play a few plays here or there.

I get that and don’t necessarily disagree. But I think that really only applies if you’re not sure your #1 is THE guy. In our case, we need a guy who can step in and run the offense. I don’t see the desire to change to a QB that is more mobile. Why exactly would you? So that your new QB will abandon the pass earlier? So that you MAY win that first game? So that your entire offense has to adapt to a different type of QB? Give me the guy who can make the throws and have pocket awareness. If that’s Allen, so be it. So far, it looks like it’s Mannion.

 

[den-the-coach]

[QUOTE="RamFan503, post: 1077260, member: 35"if that’s Allen, so be it. So far, it looks like it’s Mannion.[/QUOTE]

I have been one of Mannion's biggest supporters on this site and still feel, he does offer some upside. However, if Brandon Allen showcases the ability to make all the throws and offers a dimension showcasing the ability to run in order to move the chains, at that point, if a team comes along and offers a conditional draft choice the Rams could take that deal and feel stongly, they get an extra couple of years with Allen.

 

[DR RAM]

[QUOTE="RamFan503, post: 1077260, member: 35"if that’s Allen, so be it. So far, it looks like it’s Mannion.

I have been one of Mannion's biggest supporters on this site and still feel, he does offer some upside. However, if Brandon Allen showcases the ability to make all the throws and offers a dimension showcasing the ability to run in order to move the chains, at that point, if a team comes along and offers a conditional draft choice the Rams could take that deal and feel stongly, they get an extra couple of years with Allen.[/QUOTE]
So....did you mean to call him, "Mutt", earlier, or just a typo? Lol.

 

[DR RAM]

Brandon Allen offers something different than Goff or Mannion. Allen has mobility I have always felt your backup should offer something different from the starter to throw off the defense. Liked Allen at Arkansas, but I believe we will see plenty of Mannion & Allen during preseason as Goff should just play a few plays here or there.

Allen is different, and showed a really live arm, and mind, at the combine when he came out. I liked him at Arkansas. I am looking forward to seeing him this year. Is he the man? I don't know, but I like what he is made of, mentally. Will it pan out, as in gold-panning....?

One of the the most underrated battles this off-season, in my opinion.

 

[OldSchool]

And I’m fine with this. Finding a #2 because the FANS think we need to and a crappy QB with experience is better than a 3rd round draft pick they haven’t seen would be better? Not so much.

It hard to tell what happens in 2018. Cost as I said could drive Mannon out and McVay might not like the other options so we sign an aged vet cheap and spend another 3rd rounder on a backup qb, we do have those 2 nice comp picks coming. I think Mannion is safe this year, we'll just have to wait for next year when hes got a super bowl ring for being a back up.

 

[bubbaramfan]

At some point Mannion is going to start for some NFL team. He's smart, reads defenses fairly well and has been in the league a few years. Being in the last year of his contract, some team desperate for a QB will offer him outrageous money. This is probably the last year Mannion is a Ram.

 

[fearsomefour]

I’m ok with this if they could get a good pick or player in return. What I don’t know is what Allen really has to offer in a back up

Dont see it. If they wanted Moore we could have had him. If he was of value enough to see the field, he would have seen it as a starter. You can’t pin it on Mannion that he hasn’t seen the field when he has always been #2. Moore got some starts but certainly not because he was starting material. He had ok stats but crap the bed as a starter if you actually watched him as I did with him being a former Beav. Hell, Kellen was twice the QB and so was/is Anderson if I’m going to rate Oregon boys at QB. And I would want none of them ahead of Mannion. It’s not that I want Mannion to start, it’s that I don’t see the desire to bring in someone else who knows crap about the system and whom the coaches don’t seem to want in order to “solve” our back up situation that may - and likely - doesn’t even exist.

Does anyone really think McVay hasn’t looked at the options and didn’t pull the trigger on a Mutt Moore because it would have cost them another mil? Is it remotely possible that Mannion actually IS the best option for us at #2? A coaches son who knows football AND btw set PAC 12 records? Yeah... it was all because he checked down and blah blah blah.

Sorry... if most all NFL coaches wanted Moore, they could have him. So obviously, they don’t want his particular track record.

potenial v history.
Same conversation over again.
Saying one guy has a history of playing and one does not is not attacking Mannion. It is just a fact.
Mannion has shown next to nothing when he has played. But it is unfair to judge him on such a small sample size.
If McVay and the QB coaches like him that's good enough for me.

 

[ViennaMax]

At some point Mannion is going to start for some NFL team. He's smart, reads defenses fairly well and has been in the league a few years. Being in the last year of his contract, some team desperate for a QB will offer him outrageous money. This is probably the last year Mannion is a Ram.

why do you think so.. in the limited action he have got he starred down his receivers (not showing much ability to read defenses) slow release and poor footwork - i was a big mannion supporter and i trust mcvay and the coaching staff 100% but i don't think that there gonna be much interest in mannion from other teams.

 

[Seth Griffith]

Nick Foles!!!

 

[dieterbrock]

Rams are all in on Goff. Like most teams, lose your starter, your championship hopes are dashed.
Cue the Nick Foles response....
Mannion looked atrocious against the 49ers but clearly McVay isn't concerned.
With all the upgrades they have made this off season, the back up QB position hasn't been touched at all.
Sure Perez is a cute story but he'll be in 1st cuts.
I am with @den-the-coach that the back up should offer something different, so I too look with interest at what Allen offers this pre-season
But I laugh at the idea that Mannion has any trade value...

 

[Ram65]

Didn't see Brandon Allen play in college. His draft profile is an interesting read. He improved a lot each year. Here is the end part. Got a kick out of the Case Keenum comparison. Watched some video. I too like that he can move around. A backup that comes in off the bench that can run can keep things going. I can see Allen as the next backup QB to Goff. He has a good arm and throws on the move and in the pocket with a quick release. Would like to see more of Mannion this year. Mannino has that long stride and seems to just gun the ball (last game of year). This year mannion next year Allen who is signed for 2019.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/brandon-allen-19155/

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/brandon-allen?id=2555365
NFL COMPARISON
Case Keenum
BOTTOM LINE
Allen was an afterthought headed into this season but garnered draft attention with high-end production and a substantial spike in his play. On one hand, he is smaller than teams usually like and operated out of a play-action offense that didn’t ask him to get through many progressions. On the other hand, Allen has a quick release, an NFL arm, solid accuracy and good mobility. Allen needs to find the right home and eliminate his tendency to stare down targets, but he has enough talent to become an NFL backup.

View: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-path-to-the-draft/0ap3000000641411/Why-Brandon-Allen-is-best-unknown-QB-in-draft


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_2yEhY4qhw
Maybe his best game.

View: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000643809/2016-Combine-workout-Brandon-Allen

 

[dieterbrock]

I can see Allen as the next backup QB to Goff.

One thing about Allen that I'm unsure of, was he a pet project of Olsen who coached him in Jacksonville? And now that Olsen is gone, does Allen lose that edge?

 

[Ram65]

One thing about Allen that I'm unsure of, was he a pet project of Olsen who coached him in Jacksonville? And now that Olsen is gone, does Allen lose that edge?

He should know the system which helps him.

 

[dieterbrock]

He should know the system which helps him.

Well, he'd know it the same as Mannion since they both played in it last year together. Rams picked up Allen last year when Jacksonville thought they were sneaking him thru. Then they held on to him all season without risking him. Not sure if that was Olsen doing or Mac

 

[Ram65]

Well, he'd know it the same as Mannion since they both played in it last year together. Rams picked up Allen last year when Jacksonville thought they were sneaking him thru. Then they held on to him all season without risking him. Not sure if that was Olsen doing or Mac

I was thinking as opposed to bring some else in. We don't know what they are thinking as far as backup QB. It could be a real competition this year. I imagine McVay signed off on Allen to begin with. In any event we are going to have to wait and see what happens in camp and preseason. I like the real competition between the two with best QB backup wins.

 

[Corbin]

hey i don't know if a lot has been talked about the back up QB spot but I don't feel comfortable with mannion as goff's main backup....is there any backup qb that would be an upgrade over mannion.....i just don't feel comfortable god forbid goff went down....not that i want to invest a lot of money into a backup qb but anyone serviceable would be good......some names that i see out there are matt moore...derek anderson....manziel???....sanchez...mallett....rg3....those are not necessarily who I'm looking at but those seem to be who's available.... maybe a cap casualty becomes available??? in a perfect would the backup qb never has to play but....i would also like to have someone who could possibly step in for a few games and not be one dimensional......thoughts?

Manziel?!? Seriously? You might as well talk about bringing Tebow in to back up Goff. Stahp.

I see nothing that indicates it wouldn't be Mannion. I fail to see how the QBs mentioned in the OP would be an upgrade.

My thoughts exactly and excellent post. Mannion is the hands down #2 and he’s had one year in the system plus a few years pro. No one is going to unseat him this year. Next might be a different story tho.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I am really excited to see Brandon Allen.

Was interested in him coming out of college .

 

[LumberTubs]

At some point Mannion is going to start for some NFL team. He's smart, reads defenses fairly well and has been in the league a few years. Being in the last year of his contract, some team desperate for a QB will offer him outrageous money. This is probably the last year Mannion is a Ram.

Mannion hasn't given anyone any reason to believe he's a starting calibre QB. Not sure why anyone would view him as a starter let alone one that should be paid outrageous money.