Allen Robinson To Rams

[Riverumbbq]

Lets just use a later round draft pick on a blocking TE and avoid pushing square pegs into round holes..

 

[Ram65]

It could still happen. Atwell is a calculated drafting gamble that may not pay off, but we don't know that for sure yet. The Rams didn't draft him for nothing instead of our board anointed center of the future.

We know he's small and yeah McVay was unhappy with him. But in preseason last year imo he looked good catching the ball from a QB with nowhere near a Stafford arm. We know from college too that he can actually track and catch the ball-- more than can be said for a couple of guys higher on the Rams WR depth chart.

Atwell doesn't have to be an all around receiver. Assuming he can learn the routes and playbook-- a challenge for young player in McVay's offense unless you're a rocket scientist like Kupp-- and then he just needs to be a credible threat stretching the field, either deep or underneath, given the other weapons we will have on the field. Put in him in a 4 wide or bunch formation with Kupp, Robinson, and OBJ and what does a safety do?

Imo McVay still has his eyes on a KC style stretch the field offense with a real deep threat. Maybe Jefferson is that guy, not so sure, but still hoping one of our second year guys can step up too.

Tutu is the ROD whipping boy!

I get it there was the OC available at his draft spot. He is extremely small for the NFL. Here is the urgency comment from McVay:
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Sean McVay wants to see 'increased sense of urgency' from Tutu Atwell

Tutu Atwell hasn’t done much as a rookie and Sean McVay wants to see him have “a little bit more increased sense of urgency.”

theramswire.usatoday.com

“Tutu’s a young player. He’s got a lot of room to develop and grow,” he said Wednesday. “I’d like to see him have a little bit more increased sense of urgency. There are a lot of guys that are in front of him that I think are great veteran examples. He’s doing some good things, he’s working hard in practice. The return opportunities have been limited and then he’s really not playing at all at receiver for us, so think you’ve just got to be patient and he’s got to just work behind the scenes and when he does get his opportunity – whether it’s this week, next week, at some point – he’s got to be ready to go.”
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The comment is a bit vague. It was followed up by "he is doing some good things, he's working hard in practice. I don't know if the comment was about learning the playbook or practicing punt returns. I'm sure McVay was sending a message but, nothing rookies haven't heard before. McVay trying to light a little fire under his butt.

I agree that he looked natural catching the ball in preseason. Was also getting open because of the speed cushion he was given. I want to see him get some throws in space from Stafford. We didn't get to see him go deep either. I want to see him get some PT before I write him off.

 

[PARAM]

Tutu is the ROD whipping boy!

He's the whipping boy on EVERY Rams site!!!! I think that comment you quoted was because McVay wanted him to work harder at PR. We're going to see this year if that was a wasted draft pick. Here's hoping it wasn't.

 

[Merlin]

The comment is a bit vague. It was followed up by "he is doing some good things, he's working hard in practice. I don't know if the comment was about learning the playbook or practicing punt returns. I'm sure McVay was sending a message but, nothing rookies haven't heard before. McVay trying to light a little fire under his butt.

What bothered me about it is you never hear McVay say anything negative about anyone. Day they traded Tavon for a bag of peanuts they talked him up like they were dishing a future Hall of Famer. He is courteous in protecting the egos of his players to a fault.

 

[FarNorth]

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1504542162842697731?s=20&t=Fc9u4Om_ShXAGBpvEXMkNQ


View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1504542349598367754?s=20&t=Fc9u4Om_ShXAGBpvEXMkNQ

Still stunned by the Rams acquiring Allen Robinson. A pretty big rabbit for Snead's magic trick to pull out of his hat. Have admired Robinson's game every time I have seen him play.

Assuming OBJ is resigned and recovered the prospect of Robinson playing with Kupp and OBJ is frankly mind blowing to me. Of course they are all excellent route runners and one on one threats, with a totally unique mix of individual skills. Robinson brings the size we have lacked and even more physicality. I believe this combination of receivers, with Stafford, may prove to be the most potent ever for the Rams.

I'm also a big fan of receivers who can not only get open and go after but then CATCH THE BALL. Offhand I can't think of any trio of receivers with hands like Kupp, Robinson and OBJ. It doesn't get any better than this. These guys have to have the best hands in the league.

OBJ needs to resign but the Rams have the bucks, hopefully they are just working through things in order. But can't wait to hopefully see what Stafford can do with this amazing combination of talent.

 

[Merlin]

Yep. One thing too about a pass game that has contested catch types is you can get through ugly playoff scrums vs great defenses. We just need Stafford to focus in again like he did and our defense to field a good unit again and we're in the mix for another title.

 

[nighttrain]

Yep. One thing too about a pass game that has contested catch types is you can get through ugly playoff scrums vs great defenses. We just need Stafford to focus in again like he did and our defense to field a good unit again and we're in the mix for another title.

Bruce, Holt, and Faulk...
train

 

[FarNorth]

Yep. One thing too about a pass game that has contested catch types is you can get through ugly playoff scrums vs great defenses. We just need Stafford to focus in again like he did and our defense to field a good unit again and we're in the mix for another title.

That's exactly what we just had-- ugly playoff scrums against great defenses. Robinson will be a major difference maker in those type games in the future.

But I'm also hoping, and really expecting, that Stafford will be even more dialed in for his second year. Liam Cohen had a brief comment about working with Stafford to improve his game. I think he can cut down on mental and mechanical errors and improve on his timing with receivers, especially hitting guys in stride and on deep routes. More familiarity with the receivers and routes, but also I don't think we've truly seen the highest and best version of Matthew Stafford just yet.

 

[FarNorth]

Bruce, Holt, and Faulk...
train

Yes, can't forget how great a receiver Faulk was.

 

[Ram65]

What bothered me about it is you never hear McVay say anything negative about anyone. Day they traded Tavon for a bag of peanuts they talked him up like they were dishing a future Hall of Famer. He is courteous in protecting the egos of his players to a fault.

It's not something you want to hear but, it's a vague (motivational) comment. Remember Atwell got behind early in training camp with covid. McVay could have been hoping he would work harder to catch up faster. Could be he wants him to work more after practice. In McVay's offense players have to learn and know about each position. Players like Kupp and Woods work hard on the field and in the classroom. Atwell needs to do the same maybe even more because of his size.

At this point, we just haven't seen him get a regular-season snap from scrimmage. It's what Atwell does moving forward that's going to matter. I want to see if he can use his quickness and speed to help the Rams. He going to have to show McVay and Co that he earns a shot. If he doesn't produce enough to get on the field and make plays then he will be gone.

 

[majrleaged]

Imagine if this guy gets his shit together this offseason:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWL5Xez7bKI&ab_channel=ACCDigitalNetwork

During pre-season it looked to me like guys were really going out of there way to tune Tutu up. Test him. I don't think he can take it.

 

[wolfdogg]

During pre-season it looked to me like guys were really going out of there way to tune Tutu up. Test him. I don't think he can take it.

he's not going to make it in this league, especially on the team that has the best staring duo plus at least 2 better and bigger receivers. why is it hard to call this a busted draft pick at this point. He has nothing to add to this team. Move the fuck on.

 

[Ram65]

he's not going to make it in this league, especially on the team that has the best staring duo plus at least 2 better and bigger receivers. why is it hard to call this a busted draft pick at this point. He has nothing to add to this team. Move the fuck on.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bQnxlHZsjY

 

[FrantikRam]

he's not going to make it in this league, especially on the team that has the best staring duo plus at least 2 better and bigger receivers. why is it hard to call this a busted draft pick at this point. He has nothing to add to this team. Move the fuck on.

What? He's probably the fastest player on the entire team.

If Van goes down, he would be called upon to be a deep threat. Hopefully he can push Van for it next year.

Everywhere you look you see or hear McVay talking about going four wide. Who is the 4th right now? Unless you'd like to see more of Skowronek...


Fans are so desperate to be right about this shit it's sickening. The kid deserves a fucking chance. He was a 2nd round pick, not someone who is guaranteed to come in and contribute day one. The Rams have shown a pattern in not always playing rookies, and it means nothing.

I'd have thought we learned from SJD and others. Gaines didn't show much his rookie year either.

So yea....anyone trying to call him a bust right now is just in their feelings because the Rams didn't draft *their* guy in the second round last year.

 

[dieterbrock]

What bothered me about it is you never hear McVay say anything negative about anyone. Day they traded Tavon for a bag of peanuts they talked him up like they were dishing a future Hall of Famer. He is courteous in protecting the egos of his players to a fault.

To a fault?
You'd prefer he shit talk guys publicly thereby lower their trade value? He doesnt air dirty laundry, that's not to a fault, that's being professional.
The players know straight from the horse's mouth what he thinks of them, they dont base their security on what is said at press conferences

 

[dieterbrock]

What? He's probably the fastest player on the entire team.

If Van goes down, he would be called upon to be a deep threat. Hopefully he can push Van for it next year.

Everywhere you look you see or hear McVay talking about going four wide. Who is the 4th right now? Unless you'd like to see more of Skowronek...


Fans are so desperate to be right about this shit it's sickening. The kid deserves a fucking chance. He was a 2nd round pick, not someone who is guaranteed to come in and contribute day one. The Rams have shown a pattern in not always playing rookies, and it means nothing.

I'd have thought we learned from SJD and others. Gaines didn't show much his rookie year either.

So yea....anyone trying to call him a bust right now is just in their feelings because the Rams didn't draft *their* guy in the second round last year.

 

[wolfdogg]

What? He's probably the fastest player on the entire team.

If Van goes down, he would be called upon to be a deep threat. Hopefully he can push Van for it next year.

Everywhere you look you see or hear McVay talking about going four wide. Who is the 4th right now? Unless you'd like to see more of Skowronek...


Fans are so desperate to be right about this shit it's sickening. The kid deserves a fucking chance. He was a 2nd round pick, not someone who is guaranteed to come in and contribute day one. The Rams have shown a pattern in not always playing rookies, and it means nothing.

I'd have thought we learned from SJD and others. Gaines didn't show much his rookie year either.

So yea....anyone trying to call him a bust right now is just in their feelings because the Rams didn't draft *their* guy in the second round last year.

Desperate to be right? Yeah, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that. You're the one clinging to hope when he hasn't done anything to show he won't be a bust. He will continue to get hurt at 163 lbs. That's not my opinion. That's the history of the league and it won't matter that he's a tenth of a second faster in the 40. He will never rise above the top 5 receivers on this team and 3 of those guys were taken later than tutu. He has had chances, and converted none of them and his size will show, as the history of the league has shown, that he will not make it.

In the real world, I have been pro SJD and I was very happy when the rams drafted gaines. TUTU is another tavon mistake for this team and he hasn't shown anything to raise himself on the depth chart. It's not personal like you seem to take it. It's what he has done/not done and what he has to offer which has not impressed at all. What has he shown you to make this team better in any way. At this point you are just hoping he can do something, anything. And if he is the fastest player on the team and still can't see the field because other players are showing more in practice and in games, then that only makes his weaknesses more glaring . I mean, seriously, he's the fastest guy on the team argument? Well shit, why isn't he starting ahead of kupp then? Or, anyone?

And when they do go 4 wide, which will be how often, exactly, " According to Sharp Football Analysis, the Rams haven’t run a single play in 10 personnel (1 RB, 0 TE, 4 WR) this season. In total, they’ve only had four or five receivers on the field at the same time for five total plays in 2021. That’s a tiny, tiny amount."

I prefer kupp, arob, jefferson, and higbee. Hell, kupp is even better at the jet sweep.

 

[KA210927]

Calling a 2nd round pick a bust after 1 year where they didn’t even play because got hurt seems pretty stupid to me. The Rams getting rid of Woods means Tutu and Van will get more opportunities this year.

 

[wolfdogg]

Calling a 2nd round pick a bust after 1 year where they didn’t even play because got hurt seems pretty stupid to me. The Rams getting rid of Woods means Tutu and Van will get more opportunities this year.

Well when someone his size actually makes nfl history and doesn't get pushed out of the league due to injuries and lack of availability because of injuries than I will give them a pass after doing zippo their first year. Don't give a fuck that he was drafted in the 2nd. I've seen ryan leaf and many, many, other much higher drafted players look like obvious busts after their first year. Sometimes its very evident early. Are you really saying you'd rather throw the ball to tutu over kupp, arob, higbee, or jefferson. Now, that's stupid.

 

[PhillyRam]

Desperate to be right? Yeah, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on that. You're the one clinging to hope when he hasn't done anything to show he won't be a bust. He will continue to get hurt at 163 lbs. That's not my opinion. That's the history of the league and it won't matter that he's a tenth of a second faster in the 40. He will never rise above the top 5 receivers on this team and 3 of those guys were taken later than tutu. He has had chances, and converted none of them and his size will show, as the history of the league has shown, that he will not make it.

In the real world, I have been pro SJD and I was very happy when the rams drafted gaines. TUTU is another tavon mistake for this team and he hasn't shown anything to raise himself on the depth chart. It's not personal like you seem to take it. It's what he has done/not done and what he has to offer which has not impressed at all. What has he shown you to make this team better in any way. At this point you are just hoping he can do something, anything. And if he is the fastest player on the team and still can't see the field because other players are showing more in practice and in games, then that only makes his weaknesses more glaring . I mean, seriously, he's the fastest guy on the team argument? Well shit, why isn't he starting ahead of kupp then? Or, anyone?

And when they do go 4 wide, which will be how often, exactly, " According to Sharp Football Analysis, the Rams haven’t run a single play in 10 personnel (1 RB, 0 TE, 4 WR) this season. In total, they’ve only had four or five receivers on the field at the same time for five total plays in 2021. That’s a tiny, tiny amount."

I prefer kupp, arob, jefferson, and higbee. Hell, kupp is even better at the jet sweep.

You realize the top 3 WRs can get a play off every now and again. In fact it is kind of smart to do so.