What i dont get is based on your arguments (his injury, contract length, age, etc.) aren't exactly in favor of Van. So my question is based on this...why would any other team take his contract, his salary, his injury, and potential rental type player and trade anything for him?? And even if they did...like i said history shows you probably get something really crappy. You might as well use the player while he's still year, know his ceiling and adjust expectations accordingly rather than a guy that may very well be cut for a PS guy...or some other teams' PS guy.
Oh dude come on man. I was talking about the team and their contracts group. I'm trying to counterpoint your post and have a discussion. I'm really tired of people blasting me every time i post something and its exactly why i barely post in Rams related stuff anymore b/c every time i do i get a response like this. Every time. And it didn't use to be like this. What in the actual hell.
How??? The Rams have shown that no matter who they gave contracts to or had to eat (like Todd Gurley and now Bobby Wagner) they still had to ability to sign/trade/extend all their other guys. Its all normal roster turnover like John Johnson and others its all part of game.
Supposedly the team was going to be in "cap hell" for the past 3, 4, 5 years. It hasn't affected anyone yet. Yes the cap exists. Yes it matters. Yes you have to manipulate it every year to be in compliance.
But i really really really doubt its this super high level of concern to teams as fans tend to make it, especially in this era when cap and having picks is romanticized over winning games/titles.
Why would I have issue with Van Jeff's age ? Certainly not something I've brought up, hell, he'll only be 27 next season. Jefferson is a decent WR3, but with our current depth at the position I'll be surprised if his second contract is with the Rams, the Rams are likely to lose him to free agency following this season, same with Higbee. This discussion probably wouldn't exist if the Rams didn't have a large CAP deficit, and it hasn't been expanded on yet, but with 10 draft picks and the potential for more, there is still the cost involved with signing the entire draft class that will be added to our CAP debt. I have found Van Jefferson to be rather inconsistent, bothered by nicks mostly, at least until finally missing significant time last year with his knee injury. He is also one of the few who might garner a draft pick while reducing our CAP, Higbee is another. Floyd was my third & last trade prospect until Ramsey's name became so prevalent in our cost cutting theme. I've stated many times that I wish to improve our team's fortunes through trades and the draft instead of being a big participant in free agency, this so we don't suffer from lost Comp picks in 2024 due to our own losses in free agency this year. For me, accomplishing these goals to get under the CAP as well as bringing in new blood meant trading some players that still have a bit of value, and I believe Floyd, Higbee & Van Jeff are worth a 3'rd, 4'th and 5'th. If Ramsey is traded, he should get us a 1'st.
The Rams can remain in the play-off hunt this year by exchanging Edge rushers by way of trade.
Our OL should be much improved with as little as a single top IOL being added, depth will be excellent with everyone returning to health. WR3 is of little issue for me as I really like what Skowronek, Atwell & Powell bring rotationally, and we'll likely add to that group. Without Higbee, just how many fewer gained yards will there really be ? I just don't see a remarkable fall-off as others seem to.
On defense, we could lose Gaines, A'Shawn or both, Wagner is already gone, Scott, Hill & Rapp are likely gone. And then there is the Ramsey conversation.
Gay may also be lost to free agency, who knows at this point ?
I'll say this much, I get tired of repeating myself, it just tells me people weren't listening to begin with.
If you have an issue with perception the way you've described, perhaps phrasing things differently will get a better response, although I'll let others address these concerns.
