OFFICIAL 2023 NFL Arrests/Lawsuits/Legal Stuff

[Kupped]

I have as much standing in the matter as you do, none. All of my responses are based on information that is available to anyone who can read it objectively. There was no speculation in my response other than to counterpoint speculation by you.

Agreed and as stated, I am remaining openminded about things I don't know rather than offering biased speculation damaging to someone who is, by law, innocent until proven guilty.

My guess is, IF it goes to trial Araiza will be found guilty of statutory rape as he has admitted having a sexual encounter with a minor.

I'm not arguing his innocence. I'm arguing that the circumstances of the encounter need to be taken under consideration in terms of the punishment and more importantly in this case, his public vilification.

For all intents and purposes, he was targeted (among other SDSU football players) for sex by a minor who lied about her age, according to the information available to us.

Based on that information (including eyewitness statements from several of her friends) there are a key parts of her story that differ from the accounts of others present. Araiza left the party shortly after their encounter outside, she was not inebriated, no forcible acts were committed, and no trauma suffered by the plaintiff that was apparent to anyone else at the party. She appeared happy.

Based on all of that I find it unconscionable that people have seen fit to presume he is guilty of much more than poor judgement in taking the girl at her word as far as her age (excepting the letter of the law regarding statutory rape).

The criminal matter in to Araiza is closed.

He's not going to be prosecuted for statutory rape.

 

[Lunchbox]

The criminal matter in to Araiza is closed.

He's not going to be prosecuted for statutory rape.

But the civil case remains where if it gets to court, he will be fined for having confessed to a sexual act with a minor, regardless of circumstances.

At this point that's all this is about any longer. Hope for his sake it won't follow him for the rest of his life unless new information becomes available at the civil trial that changes the narrative.

 

[Kupped]

But the civil case remains where if it gets to court, he will be fined for having confessed to a sexual act with a minor, regardless of circumstances.

At this point that's all this is about any longer. Hope for his sake it won't follow him for the rest of his life unless new information becomes available at the civil trial that changes the narrative.

Fined?

Please expand on this. I don't know about any fine that could be applied.

He's already said he will not pay anything to settle. I understand what you're saying is regarding something that happens in court.

I'm not being snarky, if it's coming across like that. If there's a legal mechanism here that I'm unaware of, I'd love to learn about it.

 

[Lunchbox]

Fined?

Please expand on this. I don't know about any fine that could be applied.

He's already said he will not pay anything to settle. I understand what you're saying is regarding something that happens in court.

I'm not being snarky, if it's coming across like that. If there's a legal mechanism here that I'm unaware of, I'd love to learn about it.

Good point. I need to reread the article on California statutes posted by Mackeyser. The scale of fines may only apply to criminal proceedings.

 

[Lunchbox]

Nope. I read it correctly.

(e) (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, an adult who engages in an act of sexual intercourse with a minor in violation of this section may be liable for civil penalties in the following amounts:

(A) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor less than two years younger than the adult is liable for a civil penalty not to exceed two thousand dollars ($2,000).

(B) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor at least two years younger than the adult is liable for a civil penalty not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).

(C) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor at least three years younger than the adult is liable for a civil penalty not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000).

(D) An adult over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor under 16 years of age is liable for a civil penalty not to exceed twenty-five thousand dollars ($25,000).

 

[Kupped]

Nope. I read it correctly.

I don't believe it will be "regardless" of circumstances when it comes to the fine. The wording, "may be fined" seems to indicate circumstances will matter, no?

Also, there appears to be enough evidence that she told multiple other people at the party that she was 18 to give him a credible argument and it was a college party.

He's admitted to the sex act, but is adamant she said she was 18.

Either way, I think the worst of it is behind him.

 

[Cjcinec]

Re: Araiza
He was 5 years older than a girl he met at a college party who said she was 18, according to him. Others at the party say she claimed to be 18.
You don't go after someone criminally in that scenario.
If it's a 22 year old knowingly pursuing a high-schooler? That's a different scenario.

We can not like his behavior, but it doesn't make him a criminal

Maybe not a criminal. Maybe just criminally stupid. That little encounter just cost him a job. Maybe in retrospect he passes on the rando drunken girl at the party that’s telling everyone she’s 18. He would be a Buffalo Bill right now. Lots of questions about what really happened that night. No question that the guy made a STUPID decision.

 

[Lunchbox]

Maybe not a criminal. Maybe just criminally stupid. That little encounter just cost him a job. Maybe in retrospect he passes on the rando drunken girl at the party that’s telling everyone she’s 18. He would be a Buffalo Bill right now. Lots of questions about what really happened that night. No question that the guy made a STUPID decision.

I tried to resist responding to this post but I can't help myself.

Every one of your posts on this subject have attempted to portray Araiza as an irresponsible, privileged athlete taking advantage of a poor underage drunk girl. Your characterization of the "failed police investigation" in a previous post makes plain your agenda here. They refused to file charges because after an exhaustive investigation the plaintiff was deemed not credible as most of her claims were disputed by the accounts of others, including the friends she attended the party with and videos of events that took place there and at another party the previous night.

There is nothing but her unsubstantiated claims of being an innocent drunk rape victim to back up what you're trying to peddle. There is however plenty of eyewitness accounts and video that contradict her claims.

Please stop with the bullshit character assassination. Speaking for myself, these kinds of slanted comments that perpetuate ignorant, kneejerk, emotional reaction and presumed guilt in a public forum really piss me off and should not go unchallenged.

You have a right to your opinion. I have the right to disagree since you see fit to post it in a public forum. Freedom of speech is not free. It comes with a responsibility to think through what you post before you post it.

 

[dang]

I’m going to suggest the forum sunsets this topic. It’s becoming a bit toxic. And it’s taken over an important posting. Let’s agree to disagree and move on.

 

[Lunchbox]

I apologize to the forum members for the hijack and maybe taking my last response too far. I will refrain from posting again on the topic.

Apologies also to @Cjcinec for coming across too harshly.

 

[Dodgersrf]

I think it would be best, if everyone stepped off their soapbox regarding Araiza.

Let's move on, please.

 

[CGI_Ram]

NFL investigating second wave of potential gambling violations, including fifth Lions player, per reports

Five players were suspended in April, and more could be coming

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NFL investigating second wave of potential gambling violations, including fifth Lions player, per reports​

Gambling in the NFL has clearly become a problem as of late. Five total players from the Detroit Lions and Washington Commodes were suspended for gambling violations just last month, and a new report indicates more could be on the way. Per ESPN, the NFL is investigating a second wave of potential violations of its gambling policy.

According to The Athletic, at least one of the players being investigated in this second wave was a member of the 2022 Lions. If the player in question were suspended, he would be the fifth member of the team to be hit with a ban stemming from violations of the gambling policy.

Legal sports gambling is becoming more widespread, and the NFL is adapting to that. Third parties in partnership with the league are now using geolocation to identify bets placed from prohibited jurisdictions, like team facilities, per ESPN. Additionally, there are reportedly companies developing platforms that can track bets placed by players and coaches. In this situation, the NFL could provide a list of "prohibited bettors" to the platform, and that list would be shared with sportsbooks. If one of those names attempts to place a wager they shouldn't, the transaction would be flagged.

NFL players can legally bet on sports that are not the NFL, but they cannot place any wager from team facilities or while traveling with the team. That's what Lions wide receivers Jameson Williams and Stanley Berryhill III were caught doing. Both were handed six-game suspensions.

Lions wideout Quintez Cephus, safety C.J. Moore and Commodes pass-rusher Shaka Toney were caught gambling on NFL games, however, and handed indefinite suspensions that will keep them out of the league for at least one year. Berryhill, Cephus and Moore were all released.

We aren't too far removed from the last gambling-related suspension, either, as former Atlanta Falcons wideout Calvin Ridley was suspended for what ended up being one year for betting on NFL games just last offseason. A total of seven NFL players, at least one assistant coach and an unknown number of team employees have violated the league's gambling policy in the last five years. The NFL said it has found no evidence of game manipulation.

 

[12intheBox]

Dolphins' Tyreek Hill under investigation in alleged altercation — ESPN

Dolphins star Tyreek Hill is being investigated on allegations of assault/battery at a MIami Beach marina on Sunday, according to the Miami-Dade Police Department.

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This fucking guy

 

[Neil039]

Dolphins' Tyreek Hill under investigation in alleged altercation — ESPN

Dolphins star Tyreek Hill is being investigated on allegations of assault/battery at a MIami Beach marina on Sunday, according to the Miami-Dade Police Department.

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This fucking guy

Some people’s kids never learn even when they have handlers paid for by NFL teams.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Matt Araiza plans to sue alleged gang rape victim's lawyer for defamation

Former Bills punter Matt Araiza was released last year, in the days following the filing of a civil lawsuit against Araiza and others alleging gang rape.

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Matt Araiza plans to sue alleged gang rape victim’s lawyer for defamation​

Posted by Mike Florio on June 20, 2023, 4:59 PM EDT

Former Bills punter Matt Araiza was released last year, in the days following the filing of a civil lawsuit against Araiza and others alleging gang rape.

Tuesday night’s Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel on HBO, which premieres at 10:00 p.m. ET, takes a closer look at the situation. The segment from correspondent Andrea Kremer includes an interview with Araiza.

Beyond denying all accusations and explaining that the alleged victim initiated sexual contact with him, Araiza says he will not settle the pending lawsuit at any price, and that he plans to sue attorney Dan Gilleon for defamation.

“I’ve already hired an attorney for it, and things have already been drafted,” Araiza tells Kremer. “I will never waive my right to sue him. That’s coming.”

The reference to waiving his right to sue Gilleon suggests that any settlement of the claims being made by the alleged victim would include a waiver of any claims Araiza could make against the alleged victim or Gilleon.

Gilleon also was interviewed. He vowed to move forward with the lawsuit against Araiza. But Gilleon’s story has shifted a bit, apparently, as to the core allegations of gang rape against Araiza. Given a conclusion by the prosecutor’s office that Araiza was gone from the party before the alleged gang rape happened, Gilleon has offered a revised version of the facts.

“We are not saying that he was, and we are not saying that he wasn’t,” Gilleon said. “Let’s say he was not one of the men in there. That doesn’t absolve him of liability.”

The new theory seems to be that Araiza and others had a scheme that involved targeting the alleged victim, getting her drunk, and then having sex with her. As Kremer notes, this specific theory does not appear in the civil complaint filed last August.

“Our allegation is, is he contributed heavily to the harm that she suffered that night,” Gilleon said. “He had sex with my client. Following that, she ended up having sex with multiple guys and came out of there bloodied, in shock. Ended up at the hospital, ended up with the police, and ended up traumatized. So that’s what I mean by the gang rape. Gang rapes can occur for two days. They can occur over time. They can occur multiple places. So that’s the clarification.”

Kremer pointed out to Gilleon that this seems like “a far cry” from the allegations in the civil complaint.

“I don’t know,” Gilleon said. “I think my client is going to get on the stand and tell a story that’s pretty ugly about Matt Araiza, and I think it’s going to be consistent with what that complaint is.”

The stakes for everyone will increase, if/when Araiza sues Gilleon. As explained in the attached video, that’s what former Vikings running back Dalvin Cook decided to do — and he has secured some preliminary victories. Araiza quite possibly will do the same.

For now, all that’s known is: (1) the lawsuit against Araiza will continue; and (2) Araiza will be suing Gilleon. the rest will play out in court.

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[kurtfaulk]

Dolphins' Tyreek Hill under investigation in alleged altercation — ESPN

Dolphins star Tyreek Hill is being investigated on allegations of assault/battery at a MIami Beach marina on Sunday, according to the Miami-Dade Police Department.

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This fucking guy

is this what it looked like?

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[dang]

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Matt Araiza plans to sue alleged gang rape victim's lawyer for defamation

Former Bills punter Matt Araiza was released last year, in the days following the filing of a civil lawsuit against Araiza and others alleging gang rape.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Matt Araiza plans to sue alleged gang rape victim’s lawyer for defamation​

Posted by Mike Florio on June 20, 2023, 4:59 PM EDT

Former Bills punter Matt Araiza was released last year, in the days following the filing of a civil lawsuit against Araiza and others alleging gang rape.

Tuesday night’s Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel on HBO, which premieres at 10:00 p.m. ET, takes a closer look at the situation. The segment from correspondent Andrea Kremer includes an interview with Araiza.

Beyond denying all accusations and explaining that the alleged victim initiated sexual contact with him, Araiza says he will not settle the pending lawsuit at any price, and that he plans to sue attorney Dan Gilleon for defamation.

“I’ve already hired an attorney for it, and things have already been drafted,” Araiza tells Kremer. “I will never waive my right to sue him. That’s coming.”

The reference to waiving his right to sue Gilleon suggests that any settlement of the claims being made by the alleged victim would include a waiver of any claims Araiza could make against the alleged victim or Gilleon.

Gilleon also was interviewed. He vowed to move forward with the lawsuit against Araiza. But Gilleon’s story has shifted a bit, apparently, as to the core allegations of gang rape against Araiza. Given a conclusion by the prosecutor’s office that Araiza was gone from the party before the alleged gang rape happened, Gilleon has offered a revised version of the facts.

“We are not saying that he was, and we are not saying that he wasn’t,” Gilleon said. “Let’s say he was not one of the men in there. That doesn’t absolve him of liability.”

The new theory seems to be that Araiza and others had a scheme that involved targeting the alleged victim, getting her drunk, and then having sex with her. As Kremer notes, this specific theory does not appear in the civil complaint filed last August.

“Our allegation is, is he contributed heavily to the harm that she suffered that night,” Gilleon said. “He had sex with my client. Following that, she ended up having sex with multiple guys and came out of there bloodied, in shock. Ended up at the hospital, ended up with the police, and ended up traumatized. So that’s what I mean by the gang rape. Gang rapes can occur for two days. They can occur over time. They can occur multiple places. So that’s the clarification.”

Kremer pointed out to Gilleon that this seems like “a far cry” from the allegations in the civil complaint.

“I don’t know,” Gilleon said. “I think my client is going to get on the stand and tell a story that’s pretty ugly about Matt Araiza, and I think it’s going to be consistent with what that complaint is.”

The stakes for everyone will increase, if/when Araiza sues Gilleon. As explained in the attached video, that’s what former Vikings running back Dalvin Cook decided to do — and he has secured some preliminary victories. Araiza quite possibly will do the same.

For now, all that’s known is: (1) the lawsuit against Araiza will continue; and (2) Araiza will be suing Gilleon. the rest will play out in court.

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Saw the Real Sports segment and 3 things stood out: 1) There appears to be sufficient evidence that he was not directly involved in a gang rape. 2) There was no remorse in having sex with a 17 year old that was behaving extremely erratic (likely drunk). 3) He was not convincing in describing the girl as the aggressive pursuer and him merely being the cornered pursued.

 

[Psycho_X]

Dolphins' Tyreek Hill under investigation in alleged altercation — ESPN

Dolphins star Tyreek Hill is being investigated on allegations of assault/battery at a MIami Beach marina on Sunday, according to the Miami-Dade Police Department.

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This fucking guy

Seriously, so by my count this is his third charge? The first two being for hitting his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach and choking her and second for hitting his child. This one doesn't seem as bad as those but he still seems to have issues with controlling himself. Calvin Ridley gets a year suspension without pay for gambling... wonder if the NFL will ever care as much about violent behavior as they do gambling.


View: https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1671869631219245056?s=20

 

[Merlin]

These players are idiots. Pay for your pussy. You got the income to do that. Hire one for under each arm when you go clubbing.

Some of them will never learn. And Hill is not only a scumbag but he's also a mark for the clever chick who knows how to play the system.

 

[Merlin]

“I’ve already hired an attorney for it, and things have already been drafted,” Araiza tells Kremer. “I will never waive my right to sue him. That’s coming.”

Excellent.