OFFICIAL 2023 Draft

[BonifayRam]

Umm..you brought up past drafts.

Seems to me that they utilized their draft capital over the last few yrs to get them to a SB and win it.

Yes, we did. The discussion was on the previous wtf Snead drafts remarks by Elmgrovegnome
& our hopes on the subject of the future 2023 draft.

This was my response on how those previous drafts help bring about the 5-12 season:

Rams 2022 Draft was mostly injured before the season began.

In 2022 the 2021 Draft only produced one player to start last season.

In 2022 the 2020 Draft produced nothing but injured sideline players.

In 2022 the 2019 Draft was not much better than the 2020 draft there are Gaines but the rest are not good players.

Conclusion of the last 4 Snead/McVay Drafts .....Failure!

 

[PhillyRam]

Yes, we did. The discussion was on the previous wtf Snead drafts remarks by Elmgrovegnome
& our hopes on the subject of the future 2023 draft.

This was my response on how those previous drafts help bring about the 5-12 season:

And those previous drafts = ...

 

[dang]

One thing is sure. This years Draft will be much more interesting for the Rams than the past 6-7.

 

[Riverumbbq]

USC G Andrew Vorhees tears ACL at combine

One of the Steelers top prospects tore his ACL.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

And those previous drafts = ...
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This is where we differ in the discussion. @BonifayRam and I are speaking about making picks, by evaluating college players. We are not talking about trading picks for proven NFL talent. Yes, that is a part of a team building process, but it’s not hard for Snead to identify proven talent that’s played for several years.

Snead has made some real blunders in past drafts. His trading back rarely ends up being worth it. His habit of picking raw athletic freaks hasn’t worked out. With Edwards precipitous fall I wouldn’t consider his picking injured players a success either.
Snead trades backwards, skipping good players to pick mediocre or less talent.

Now, if you are happy with getting one good year out of a player and then average or below average years, like Allen and Edwards, and Rapp, then sure. I’d rather get a few more keepers in the draft. Did they win a Super Bowl? Yes, but mostly because of the trades they made. A monkey could see that Ramsey and Stafford were top notch talent. Add in the Kupp, AD, Gaines and Floyd and they have a core, surrounded by a lot of average or less talent that they don’t resign.

They’ve had some nice UDFA signings. I find it to be ironic that when graded in a scale they have more success doing that than they do picking 6th rounders.

For this team to make a quick turnaround, they will need a great draft, which is something Snead has never accomplished and seems even further from since Holmes went to Detroit. If they rebuild they may as well trade away AD, Kupp and Stafford because the holes created by releasing/trading these star players aren’t all likely to be adequately filled in the 2023 draft. If the past is an indication, then it’s not likely the team will be seriously competitive for the next several years.

 

[FarNorth]

This is where we differ in the discussion. @BonifayRam and I are speaking about making picks, by evaluating college players. We are not talking about trading picks for proven NFL talent. Yes, that is a part of a team building process, but it’s not hard for Snead to identify proven talent that’s played for several years.

Snead has made some real blunders in past drafts. His trading back rarely ends up being worth it. His habit of picking raw athletic freaks hasn’t worked out. With Edwards precipitous fall I wouldn’t consider his picking injured players a success either.
Snead trades backwards, skipping good players to pick mediocre or less talent.

Now, if you are happy with getting one good year out of a player and then average or below average years, like Allen and Edwards, and Rapp, then sure. I’d rather get a few more keepers in the draft. Did they win a Super Bowl? Yes, but mostly because of the trades they made. A monkey could see that Ramsey and Stafford were top notch talent. Add in the Kupp, AD, Gaines and Floyd and they have a core, surrounded by a lot of average or less talent that they don’t resign.

They’ve had some nice UDFA signings. I find it to be ironic that when graded in a scale they have more success doing that than they do picking 6th rounders.

For this team to make a quick turnaround, they will need a great draft, which is something Snead has never accomplished and seems even further from since Holmes went to Detroit. If they rebuild they may as well trade away AD, Kupp and Stafford because the holes created by releasing/trading these star players aren’t all likely to be adequately filled in the 2023 draft. If the past is an indication, then it’s not likely the team will be seriously competitive for the next several years.

Could we trade Snead for Brad Holmes?

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Well just did my first mock...let me know how I did hahahaha

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Are we going to do a ‘who the Rams are meeting thread?

They are meeting with Purdue QB Aidan O’Connel

Rams meeting with Purdue QB Aidan O’Connell

The Rams will meet with Purdue QB Aidan O'Connell, who's projected to be a mid-to-late-round pick

sports.yahoo.com

 

[PhillyRam]

Are we going to do a ‘who the Rams are meeting thread?

They are meeting with Purdue QB Aidan O’Connel

Rams meeting with Purdue QB Aidan O’Connell

The Rams will meet with Purdue QB Aidan O'Connell, who's projected to be a mid-to-late-round pick

sports.yahoo.com

I was thinking he could be a late round option. Ok size and arm, looks like a Bulger type. Solid back up type who may be a system bridge QB.

 

[PhillyRam]

Well just did my first mock...let me know how I did hahahaha

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Man, did you rape the Giants on that trade.

 

[PARAM]

Snead has made some real blunders in past drafts. His trading back rarely ends up being worth it. His habit of picking raw athletic freaks hasn’t worked out. With Edwards precipitous fall I wouldn’t consider his picking injured players a success either.
Snead trades backwards, skipping good players to pick mediocre or less talent.

I'm not sure that's easy to figure out. For instance, in 2017 they traded the #37 pick for #44 and #91. They got Gerald Everett and John Johnson. Everett never fulfilled his projection but he was decent. JJ was really good. So who did they pass up in those 7 slots. The name that sticks out to me is Dalvin Cook but they already had Gurley so he probably wasn't even on their radar. And that's what makes a determination difficult. Perhaps they had Everett in mind all along? What other examples are there of them trading down and screwing up?

Did they win a Super Bowl? Yes, but mostly because of the trades they made.

Trades they made were for Stafford and Von Miller. A lot of guys they drafted contributed like Gaines, or Hendo who actually had a good SB receiving. Hopkins had some clutch catches? Nick Scott played some good defense. I understand the marquees are what stand out but if it were just the marquees how come Stafford never won a playoff game prior to L.A.. Or how come Von Miller didn't take over a lot of game on his way to winning a couple with Denver?

 

[André]

The Rams are projected to have ten total picks to start the draft (11, if Morris ends up with a head coaching gig):
3 of their own: 2nd, 3rd, 6th
4 Compensatory: 4th (DWilliams), 5th (ACorbett), 6th (SJD), and 7th (Obo)
3 via trade: 6th (Titans - R Woods), 6th (Green Bay - C Bojorquez + our 7th), 7th (Det - M Brockers)

The extra one for Morris would be a 3rd round Compensatory pick.

The comp picks are official now, and instead of 4/5/6/7 it's 5/5/5/7. Not a big change, but really would have preferred the 4th.

 

[PARAM]

The comp picks are official now, and instead of 4/5/6/7 it's 5/5/5/7. Not a big change, but really would have preferred the 4th.

They will get an even higher 4th when they trade down in the 2nd or 3rd.

 

[Riverumbbq]

They will get an even higher 4th when they trade down in the 2nd or 3rd.

Or if we trade Ramsey, Floyd, Higbee or others for draft picks.

 

[Merlin]

Figuring come draft day we're probably looking at something along the lines of:

Round 2
Round 2 (Ramsey)
Round 3
Round 4 (Floyd)
Round 5
Round 5 (Ramsey)
Round 5
Round 5
Round 6
Round 6
Round 6
Round 6
Round 7
Round 7
Round 7

One thing's for sure... Our special teams unit should be loaded. I mean you can move some of those picks higher for Floyd or Ramsey but we are looking at a very large roster turnover. Nobody on this roster is safe from the right offer coming in, and they shouldn't be after that shitty season. They'll always have those rings but the business of the NFL grinds on.

If they move Boom or Higs or similar we'll end up with another midround pick. Does that move the needle. Not for me, but maybe some guys they're flat fucking tired of. Should get some clarity soon though thank fuck.

 

[PhillyRam]

Figuring come draft day we're probably looking at something along the lines of:

Round 2
Round 2 (Ramsey)
Round 3
Round 4 (Floyd)
Round 5
Round 5 (Ramsey)
Round 5
Round 5
Round 6
Round 6
Round 6
Round 6
Round 7
Round 7
Round 7

One thing's for sure... Our special teams unit should be loaded. I mean you can move some of those picks higher for Floyd or Ramsey but we are looking at a very large roster turnover. Nobody on this roster is safe from the right offer coming in, and they shouldn't be after that shitty season. They'll always have those rings but the business of the NFL grinds on.

If they move Boom or Higs or similar we'll end up with another midround pick. Does that move the needle. Not for me, but maybe some guys they're flat fucking tired of. Should get some clarity soon though thank fuck.

Not sure we will be able to trade Floyd let alone get a 4th. Hope I am wrong, but considering his salary and age, a lot of teams would just prefer to draft an edge and develop him.

If SD wasn't in bad cap shape maybe their coach would want him again...but not sure we get much from anyone else.

 

[PhillyRam]

Figuring come draft day we're probably looking at something along the lines of:

Round 2
Round 2 (Ramsey)
Round 3
Round 4 (Floyd)
Round 5
Round 5 (Ramsey)
Round 5
Round 5
Round 6
Round 6
Round 6
Round 6
Round 7
Round 7
Round 7

One thing's for sure... Our special teams unit should be loaded. I mean you can move some of those picks higher for Floyd or Ramsey but we are looking at a very large roster turnover. Nobody on this roster is safe from the right offer coming in, and they shouldn't be after that shitty season. They'll always have those rings but the business of the NFL grinds on.

If they move Boom or Higs or similar we'll end up with another midround pick. Does that move the needle. Not for me, but maybe some guys they're flat fucking tired of. Should get some clarity soon though thank fuck.

Have to package some of those 5ths and 6ths for 4ths.

Get as many top 150 picks as possible.

 

[Tano]

Not sure we will be able to trade Floyd let alone get a 4th. Hope I am wrong, but considering his salary and age, a lot of teams would just prefer to draft an edge and develop him.

If SD wasn't in bad cap shape maybe their coach would want him again...but not sure we get much from anyone else.

I bet if we trade Floyd and a 6th we could get a 4th

However, Snead will be like "Don't you touch my 6 round picks"

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Figuring come draft day we're probably looking at something along the lines of:

Round 2
Round 2 (Ramsey)
Round 3
Round 4 (Floyd)
Round 5
Round 5 (Ramsey)
Round 5
Round 5
Round 6
Round 6
Round 6
Round 6
Round 7
Round 7
Round 7

One thing's for sure... Our special teams unit should be loaded. I mean you can move some of those picks higher for Floyd or Ramsey but we are looking at a very large roster turnover. Nobody on this roster is safe from the right offer coming in, and they shouldn't be after that shitty season. They'll always have those rings but the business of the NFL grinds on.

If they move Boom or Higs or similar we'll end up with another midround pick. Does that move the needle. Not for me, but maybe some guys they're flat fucking tired of. Should get some clarity soon though thank fuck.

We will get more than a 2nd and 5th for Ramsey if he's traded

 

[PhillyRam]

I bet if we trade Floyd and a 6th we could get a 4th

However, Snead will be like "Don't you touch my 6 round picks"

Yeah, using him as a round or two trade up is the most likely trade, but even then a team has to take on his contract. It would have to be a contender in desperate need for an experienced edge and that team could just wait for a release as well and take their chances to sign him.

Maybe a team like the Pats could be an option. Belicheat likes smart vets, so maybe there. Not sure what their needs are. Maybe get that Michel pick back.