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DK looks like the NFLs version of Dennis Rodman. His hair, his clothing, and his behaviors.

Your a fast decent WR, but you’re not worth 25 mil a year. Plus, you benefitted from having a top tier QB.

I’ve never been against a player getting paid, although they should be realistic about it (IMO).
And he thought he benched more than AD! :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
 

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2022 is going to hurt for Seahawks fans but it will be OK in the long run​

The Seattle Seahawks not only traded Russell Wilson and released Bobby Wagner but now the team has to face those guys at least three times in 2022. And let’s be real, it doesn’t make logical sense for Seattle to be anywhere near Super Bowl-worthy next year. So losses are bad enough. But losses to former greats? That’s rough.

On Thursday, Bobby Wagner signed with the Rams for five years. It does seem unlikely he will still be playing in 2026 because he would be 37 years old when the 2026 season started and that is ancient for an NFL linebacker.

No matter, for at least a few years the Seahawks will be playing one of the all-time great Seattle players twice a year while he is wearing a rival NFC West team’s uniform.

Good times will be coming to Seahawks fans that wait

As far as Russell Wilson goes, Seattle will play Wilson and his new team, the Denver Broncos, in 2022 at Lumen Field. I have no idea how the fan response will be to Wilson entering the stadium as a Bronco but hopefully, it will be generally positive. A lot of the reaction might be based on when Denver plays Seattle and what Seattle’s record is at the time.

All that said, the Seahawks, whether John Schneider and Pete Carroll are willing to admit it, are in a rebuild. But if the team was going to rebuild, now is the time to do it. 2022 and, likely, 2023 are going to be rough years for 12s. The NFC West is full of better teams than Seattle is. Seattle will have to play every AFC West team in 2022 and all those teams are better than Seattle.

Yet, Seattle should be getting much better when most of the NFC West, especially the Rams, are declining. Los Angeles currently has $23 million in cap space next offseason (21st in the NFL) but has just $71 million projected in 2024 (28th in the league). None of that cap space takes into account Bobby Wagner’s contract, though, as the full numbers haven’t been released.

That sounds like a lot of money but 2024 is also when players like Cooper Kupp hit free agency. That money runs out fast.
Seattle is in great shape in cap space for the foreseeable future. Plus, Seattle has a lot of draft capital (3 first-rounders and 4 second-rounders in the next two years alone) to not only get top-end talent to aid a quicker rebuild but also build the foundation of a good team for many seasons to come.

But that won’t start, most likely, until 2024 when the young players have developed and key free agents signed. Good times will occur for the Seahawks again but we might just have to suffer for a couple of years before having consistent success again.
 

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2022 is going to hurt for Seahawks fans but it will be OK in the long run​

The Seattle Seahawks not only traded Russell Wilson and released Bobby Wagner but now the team has to face those guys at least three times in 2022. And let’s be real, it doesn’t make logical sense for Seattle to be anywhere near Super Bowl-worthy next year. So losses are bad enough. But losses to former greats? That’s rough.

On Thursday, Bobby Wagner signed with the Rams for five years. It does seem unlikely he will still be playing in 2026 because he would be 37 years old when the 2026 season started and that is ancient for an NFL linebacker.

No matter, for at least a few years the Seahawks will be playing one of the all-time great Seattle players twice a year while he is wearing a rival NFC West team’s uniform.

Good times will be coming to Seahawks fans that wait

As far as Russell Wilson goes, Seattle will play Wilson and his new team, the Denver Broncos, in 2022 at Lumen Field. I have no idea how the fan response will be to Wilson entering the stadium as a Bronco but hopefully, it will be generally positive. A lot of the reaction might be based on when Denver plays Seattle and what Seattle’s record is at the time.

All that said, the Seahawks, whether John Schneider and Pete Carroll are willing to admit it, are in a rebuild. But if the team was going to rebuild, now is the time to do it. 2022 and, likely, 2023 are going to be rough years for 12s. The NFC West is full of better teams than Seattle is. Seattle will have to play every AFC West team in 2022 and all those teams are better than Seattle.

Yet, Seattle should be getting much better when most of the NFC West, especially the Rams, are declining. Los Angeles currently has $23 million in cap space next offseason (21st in the NFL) but has just $71 million projected in 2024 (28th in the league). None of that cap space takes into account Bobby Wagner’s contract, though, as the full numbers haven’t been released.

That sounds like a lot of money but 2024 is also when players like Cooper Kupp hit free agency. That money runs out fast.
Seattle is in great shape in cap space for the foreseeable future. Plus, Seattle has a lot of draft capital (3 first-rounders and 4 second-rounders in the next two years alone) to not only get top-end talent to aid a quicker rebuild but also build the foundation of a good team for many seasons to come.

But that won’t start, most likely, until 2024 when the young players have developed and key free agents signed. Good times will occur for the Seahawks again but we might just have to suffer for a couple of years before having consistent success again.
That’s what they have to look forward to?
 

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2022 is going to hurt for Seahawks fans but it will be OK in the long run​


Good times will be coming to Seahawks fans that wait

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Yet, Seattle should be getting much better when most of the NFC West, especially the Rams, are declining. Los Angeles currently has $23 million in cap space next offseason (21st in the NFL) but has just $71 million projected in 2024 (28th in the league). None of that cap space takes into account Bobby Wagner’s contract, though, as the full numbers haven’t been released.

That sounds like a lot of money but 2024 is also when players like Cooper Kupp hit free agency. That money runs out fast.
Seattle is in great shape in cap space for the foreseeable future.
There's some real Parity in the NFC West ... Not the Division ... but in the quality of sports journalism reflected in the team-writers for Fansided. The Rams have Bret Stuter; and Seattle has this guy ... Lee Vowell.

They both equally-Suck! Parity!

B-T-W, I wish the Rams 'currently had $23M in cap space for next year'.
 

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2022 is going to hurt for Seahawks fans but it will be OK in the long run​

The Seattle Seahawks not only traded Russell Wilson and released Bobby Wagner but now the team has to face those guys at least three times in 2022. And let’s be real, it doesn’t make logical sense for Seattle to be anywhere near Super Bowl-worthy next year. So losses are bad enough. But losses to former greats? That’s rough.

On Thursday, Bobby Wagner signed with the Rams for five years. It does seem unlikely he will still be playing in 2026 because he would be 37 years old when the 2026 season started and that is ancient for an NFL linebacker.

No matter, for at least a few years the Seahawks will be playing one of the all-time great Seattle players twice a year while he is wearing a rival NFC West team’s uniform.

Good times will be coming to Seahawks fans that wait

As far as Russell Wilson goes, Seattle will play Wilson and his new team, the Denver Broncos, in 2022 at Lumen Field. I have no idea how the fan response will be to Wilson entering the stadium as a Bronco but hopefully, it will be generally positive. A lot of the reaction might be based on when Denver plays Seattle and what Seattle’s record is at the time.

All that said, the Seahawks, whether John Schneider and Pete Carroll are willing to admit it, are in a rebuild. But if the team was going to rebuild, now is the time to do it. 2022 and, likely, 2023 are going to be rough years for 12s. The NFC West is full of better teams than Seattle is. Seattle will have to play every AFC West team in 2022 and all those teams are better than Seattle.

Yet, Seattle should be getting much better when most of the NFC West, especially the Rams, are declining. Los Angeles currently has $23 million in cap space next offseason (21st in the NFL) but has just $71 million projected in 2024 (28th in the league). None of that cap space takes into account Bobby Wagner’s contract, though, as the full numbers haven’t been released.

That sounds like a lot of money but 2024 is also when players like Cooper Kupp hit free agency. That money runs out fast.
Seattle is in great shape in cap space for the foreseeable future. Plus, Seattle has a lot of draft capital (3 first-rounders and 4 second-rounders in the next two years alone) to not only get top-end talent to aid a quicker rebuild but also build the foundation of a good team for many seasons to come.

But that won’t start, most likely, until 2024 when the young players have developed and key free agents signed. Good times will occur for the Seahawks again but we might just have to suffer for a couple of years before having consistent success again.

That sounds like some of the same shyte that we used to have to write about in the PD a few years ago under Devaney and Co. when the Rams sucked, and there was no hope.
This is awesome. (y):LOL::cool:
 

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The Hawks are at a point in their rebuild they should consider a different GM Coach tandem. Pete and Schneider appear to be stagnant in their roles. Maybe a Matt Millen and Kotite pairing would be a better fit?
 

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"On Thursday, Bobby Wagner signed with the Rams for five years. It does seem unlikely he will still be playing in 2026 because he would be 37 years old when the 2026 season started and that is ancient for an NFL linebacker."

I just looked up our beloved London Fletcher stats and he actually had his most productive year ever for tackles when he was 36 years old and actually played productively until he was almost 39 years old. I suspect Bobby Wagner to do the same.
 

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"On Thursday, Bobby Wagner signed with the Rams for five years. It does seem unlikely he will still be playing in 2026 because he would be 37 years old when the 2026 season started and that is ancient for an NFL linebacker."

I just looked up our beloved London Fletcher stats and he actually had his most productive year ever for tackles when he was 36 years old and actually played productively until he was almost 39 years old. I suspect Bobby Wagner to do the same.
I couldn't care less about whether Wagner plays out his contract... I just want him to be good for two years.
 

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Lamar Jackson recruiting DK Metcalf to Ravens​

If the Baltimore Ravens want to keep Lamar Jackson, they have to find him a true star wide receiver. They are running out of options, though one big-name receiver could be up for grabs: Seattle Seahawks star DK Metcalf.

Metcalf recorded 967 yards on 75 catches, including a career-high 12 touchdowns, last season. The 24-year-old would be a massive upgrade for the ravens, though they would have to acquire him via trade. Although the Seahawks are entering a rebuild after the departures of Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner, they aren’t ready to shop him to opposing teams.

Jackson took recruiting matters into his own hands — even after saying he wouldn’t do so — by publicly asking Metcalf to slide in. Although Metcalf isn’t a free agent, and thus the only way this could happen is if the Seahawks traded him,


View: https://twitter.com/lj_era8/status/1510681521673412610?s=21&t=icE8aq-GXFTYweCXHkeDMQ

Although Metcalf didn’t directly respond to Jackson’s recruiting pitch, he did respond to Jackson dissing a detractor in the tweet’s replies. Seattle could be willing to trade him, so the Ravens should move in and make an offer. Although Metcalf would also need to sign an extension with the trade, it would be money well spent for Baltimore.


View: https://twitter.com/dkm14/status/1510694848805941256?s=21&t=upD0WwjGm3H7GQa89Ei_OA

Baltimore needs to make something big happen. Jackson has expressed his desire to remain with the Ravens but he still needs a contract extension in order to do so. Although he had a rough 2021 season, he is crucial to the team’s success. Finding him the right pieces to work with is paramount.

Jackson has needed better wide receivers for practically his whole career. The Ravens should look to Metcalf, even with his absurd diet, as a guy worth trading for.
 

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The Seahawks need more than a haphazard infusion of players. It's obvious they have no master plan upon which to coordinate their rebuild. Having a lot of cap space and "draft capital" is meaningless if you don't know how to use them. It also means they probably suck. That article is complete nonsense written by someone who has no clue about the NFL.

Yeah the Rams don't have a lot of draft picks or cap space but why do players still flock to them. Why by signing Wagner, Allen Robinson and soon OBJ the Rams will be a more balanced team than last year. If Scott takes the next step as well as Rochell, this defense will be downright dangerous.

Trading for Adams proved the Seahawk FO doesn't know what they are doing. Retaining Carroll as HC when it was clear his best days are behind him is another example of FO incompetence. I see a team that will flounder and flop around until they completely clean house from the top down.
 

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The Seahawks need more than a haphazard infusion of players. It's obvious they have no master plan upon which to coordinate their rebuild. Having a lot of cap space and "draft capital" is meaningless if you don't know how to use them. It also means they probably suck. That article is complete nonsense written by someone who has no clue about the NFL.

Yeah the Rams don't have a lot of draft picks or cap space but why do players still flock to them. Why by signing Wagner, Allen Robinson and soon OBJ the Rams will be a more balanced team than last year. If Scott takes the next step as well as Rochell, this defense will be downright dangerous.

Trading for Adams proved the Seahawk FO doesn't know what they are doing. Retaining Carroll as HC when it was clear his best days are behind him is another example of FO incompetence. I see a team that will flounder and flop around until they completely clean house from the top down.
It’s the result of having an owner that does not know or care about football. Paul Allen seemed to trust Pete, so his sister pretty much let’s persuasive Pete run the whole show.
 

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It’s the result of having an owner that does not know or care about football. Paul Allen seemed to trust Pete, so his sister pretty much let’s persuasive Pete run the whole show.
it's tough when ownership is in a state of flux as tough as it was with Georgia after she passed away and Chip Rosenbloom took over, it was much worse. Chip was a nice guy and he did send Shaw & Zygmunt out to pasture, however, you knew Chip was not in it for the long haul and IMO, it gave me a sense of apathy with ownership.

In fact, Chip got rid of the gold pants because he said it reminded him of the disco days which made the Rams don white pants all of the time and I could not stand it.
 

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it's tough when ownership is in a state of flux as tough as it was with Georgia after she passed away and Chip Rosenbloom took over, it was much worse. Chip was a nice guy and he did send Shaw & Zygmunt out to pasture, however, you knew Chip was not in it for the long haul and IMO, it gave me a sense of apathy with ownership.

In fact, Chip got rid of the gold pants because he said it reminded him of the disco days which made the Rams don white pants all of the time and I could not stand it.
Agreed. Jeanie Allen should sell the team……..to Shad Kahn’s brother :laugh4::laugh4:

Seriously I fully understand. That transition period sucked.
 

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Bobby Wagner shares view on why Seahawks’ defense has struggled​

Bobby Wagner has been the one constant presence in the Seahawks’ defense for the past 10 seasons, but that will all change in 2022.

Following Seattle’s release last month of the six-time All-Pro linebacker, the 31-year-old Wagner has joined the Super Bowl champion Los Angeles Rams, assuring he will meet the Seahawks twice as a member of an NFC West rival going forward.

Seattle’s defense had its ups and downs during the final years of Wagner’s tenure with the team, and it was something he spoke about at length when he joined Seattle Sports’ Mike Salk Show for a 30-minute interview that aired Wednesday. Among the things Wagner addressed was his view of what held the defense back, changes to the scheme, and his response to criticism of his own play. Here’s a look at what he had to say.

Slow starts

It’s no secret to anybody who watched the Seahawks closely the last few years that the defense took time to get going during the season, which was something that prevented Seattle from finishing high enough in the NFC to earn a playoff bye – or in the case of 2021, even make the playoffs at all.

“I felt like we always got off to a slow start,” Wagner said. “We would give up a ridiculous amount of yards, and even like last year, last year was crazy because if you look at our yardage, we were (towards the) bottom if not the bottom of the list. But if you looked at our situational football, we were like top five – third down, red zone, things of that nature. And so we just struggled to kind of put it all together.”

One possible reason for the slow starts the past two seasons is how little the Seahawks were able to work together in the offseason due to the pandemic. Wagner illustrated that by bringing up linebacker Jordyn Brooks, who was drafted by Seattle in the first round in 2020.

“We definitely had to communicate better. We definitely had to just execute the scheme and sometimes the trust wasn’t always there,” he said. “And you think about COVID, you think of all these different things where normally you get to be around one another… I was talking to Jordyn a while ago and this might be his first real offseason where you have OTAs and everything like that. Up until this point, he’s never had a real offseason. Little things like that do matter, do mean something.”

A key issue for Seattle last season was getting stops – and then the offense staying in possession longer than a few plays after the defense did get a stop. Wagner said it was something he even looked up as the year was going.

“I was looking at it at some point in the season, I believe myself, (safety Quandre) Diggs, and (safety) Jamal (Adams) had the most plays in in the league by a longshot. I think we had like 200 more plays than the next closest person, and that just shows we had trouble getting off the field. I can’t really pinpoint on what exactly was the reason to that but I do feel like at some point of each of those seasons we were able to figure it out, but sometimes that was just too late.”

Wagner’s own play

Has Wagner lost a step? He doesn’t think so, and while there have been critiques about him not seeming to be as active on the field in recent years, he said his numbers back him up.

“I feel like the production from a statistical standpoint has been there,” he said. “The tackles are still around the same. Sacks are still around the same even though I think last year I blitzed the least.”

While Wagner made a career-high 170 tackles last season, he had just one sack and appeared to be less of a factor around and behind the line of scrimmage. He pointed to how Seattle used the defensive line for him as a reason.

“I just think some of the fronts didn’t necessarily allow me to come downhill the way that I was able to come downhill earlier my career,” he said. “Earlier in my career we were more an under front… The front that we moved to the later part of my career, it was the stick front and it was not necessarily (allowing me to) come downhill, it was read behind the blockers. Teams were doing a good job of releasing that guard because there was nobody touching the guard.”

Potential bad news for Seahawks fans is that Wagner has heard the criticism and is motivated to prove he can still be a standout player with his new team.

“I understand the criticism, I hear the criticism, I have no problem with embracing it,” he said, “and I look forward to proving a lot of doubters wrong because I still feel like I’m one of the best linebackers in this league and I plan on proving that this year.”
 

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Alright I have been waiting for this moment for a while now.

I work were we are required to wear a required an ID that is visible. Because of juvenile crap in the past being airline based in the Bay Area (whiners) with many commuting from the northwest for the work (seachikins) I refrained from wearing anything LA for a lanyard and chose a clip to the shirt.

I hope others can appreciate this but since we WON the SUPER BOWL I have been wearing my RAMS lanyard in our current colors. On a trip to Portland today (seachikin country) an elderly lady ( I am 60 so let that sink in) when de-boarding saw my lanyard and said "You are a Rams fan?" I remained respectfully quiet to our customer and she made that "thhhhup" sound with a thumbs down and again I have been waiting for this eventuality and said "WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!" Not as loud as this reads but closer and the look on the old biatch seahags face was classic. God Dang Rams life is good!

GO RAMS!!!

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When I look at Wagner's play I don't see a player who has lost a step. I see a lack of communication and perhaps some confusion or uncertainty in his play, i.e. I think it's more schematic than physical. Norton tried to change things up, i.e. update the stale 4-3 scheme they have used since the Legion of Boom days. He played his front 7 more like a 3-4 hybrid scheme which had that front 7 playing with totally new concepts. A case in point was how often Carlos Dunlap, a pure 4-3 DE was asked to drop into coverage. It created the same scheme compatibility issues that Fowler had when he was asked to drop in LA's hybrid 3-4 scheme. When you make scheme changes like those, it tends to slow players down until they no longer have to think through the play. IMO Seattle's inability to make stops reflected a lack of communication on the field. Yet Wagner had 170 tackles, the most in his career, which doesn't look like a guy that has lost a step.

Scheme fit is huge, and it's why Reeder going to the Chargers makes complete sense. Will Wagner be a fit with the Rams? Absolutely if Morris uses him properly. Morris simply needs to turn him loose to use his experience to flow with the play. Early last season Morris was too rigid in how he played his guys. Morris must not play Wagner that way.

Playing behind Donald, Gaines and A'Shawn should keep Wagner clean. That is what allowed Jones to have the season he did. It will allow Morris to play two ILBs more often. Basically, Morris has another, albeit, more athletic player in Wagner than Weddle, who can quickly read the play and flow to the POA. Wagner brings the same type of experience veteran presence that Weddle brought, but in a fulltime player. Weddle elevated the defense by making the right calls, now Morris has the same type of player in Wagner, but who can stay on the field every down.
 

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Following Seattle’s release last month of the six-time All-Pro linebacker, the 31-year-old Wagner has joined the Super Bowl champion Los Angeles Rams :startstruck:

Never gets old seeing it and saying it!
 

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It's best-case that the Seahawks keep Metcalf so he'll hurt his value with his sideline tantrums this year. Losing should be a perfect element in his "best side" coming out as often as possible.
 

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It's best-case that the Seahawks keep Metcalf so he'll hurt his value with his sideline tantrums this year. Losing should be a perfect element in his "best side" coming out as often as possible.

If they don’t land a QB, it certainly could be a risk to hold onto him... if he becomes disgruntled.

NFL teams ‘convinced’ DK Metcalf traded in 2022, 3 likely destinations​

The Seattle Seahawks and wide receiver DK Metcalf are saying all the right things to try and squash NFL trade rumors and speculation. It also seems quite clear that many teams around the National Football League aren’t buying it.

Metcalf is the hottest name being talked about as a trade candidate before the 2022 NFL Draft. In an offseason that saw Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill moved by contenders, many think the next domino is the rebuilding Seahawks trading away their top wide receiver.

He isn’t the only Seahawks’ weapon being talked about for a potential move. Pro Bowl receiver Tyler Lockett would also generate interest, but he is under contract for multiple seasons. Given Seattle needs more draft capital to begin reshaping its roster, many aren’t buying the talk from the Seahawks’ front office.

Instead, per Yahoo Sports’ NFL reporter Charles Robinson, teams are betting on Metcalf catching passes in a different uniform next season.

“A lot of teams are convinced that DK Metcalf isn’t going to be a Seattle Seahawk when the season starts next year….It’s interesting how many people feel almost certain he’s going to end up getting dealt, if not leading up to the draft, maybe on draft day.” - NFL insider Charles Robinson on teams expecting a DK Metcalf trade, via You Pod to Win the Game

There are still a few weeks remaining before the NFL Draft. It gives interested teams plenty of time to forecast different Round 1 scenarios, playing out what receivers might be available and whether or not they’d rather pay the price to acquire Metcalf.

Why the Seahawks may consider a DK Metcalf trade

On the surface, the Seahawks trading away a 24-year-old receiver might seem ridiculous. With quarterback Russell Wilson off the books, Seattle’s front office isn’t lacking in cap room. As an NFL executive told Charles Robinson, though, this isn’t the type of situation where teams pay elite-tier money.

“How are you going to pay him? You don’t have a quarterback, you don’t have a Super Bowl window.” - NFL executive to Yahoo Sports’ Charles Robinson on why he thinks Seattle Seahawks trade DK Metcalf

The Seahawks will be a bottom-10 team in 2022, wasting the final year of Metcalf’s rookie contract. While they can place the franchise tag on him next offseason, there would still be uncertainty at quarterback. Working against them is also the inflated cost to pay wide receivers.

DK Metcalf stats (career): 216 receptions, 3,170 receiving yards and 29 touchdowns in 49 games

Because of new deals for Adams, Hill, Stefon Diggs and Christian Kirk, the highest paid wide receivers in the NFL are now averaging more than $28 million per season. Metcalf won’t approach that average annual salary, but he can easily exceed $22 million.

Seattle already paid Lockett and it might not be cost-efficient for an offense committed to running the football a lot to spend a majority of its money on that side of the ball towards two receivers.

Likely trade destinations

Green Bay Packers: Even before trading Adams, the Packers were reportedly calling around the league about wide receivers. Green Bay now has one of the worst receiving corps in the NFL. Metcalf’s size and field make him an exciting option for the Packers. He would provide Aaron Rodgers with an elite receiver, someone who can make contested catches, explode vertically and be a red-zone threat. Acquiring a bonafide star for a first-round pick and a Day 2 selection could be worth it for the win-now Packers.

Kansas City Chiefs: It’s no secret that Kansas City wants to find a true No. 1 receiver. JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling are nice additions, but they are complementary weapons. Metcalf is the player who Patrick Mahomes will fall in love with and he’ll trust him in critical situations. The Chiefs are absolutely a team to watch closely if Seattle shops Metcalf.

New York Jets: The Jets are desperate for a star and they want a wide receiver who can cover 40 yards in a flash. Metcalf’s skills make him the perfect No. 1 receiver for quarterback Zach Wilson. We highly doubt New York would trade a top-10 pick to Seatlte. However, trading down from the 10th spot to the 16-20 range, then flipping it to the Seahawks, is possible.