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And if they've been showcasing him the last couple weeks, he's only caught 8 of 17 targets in that stretch
I've been wondering if we've been trying to feed him targets recently to spark interest with the trade deadline looming. Kind of strange Jefferson has hardly been seeing targets but Reynolds has been playing well. If we could move him and or everett for picks I think we should. I was on board for moving JJ as well but with the injuries at safety that makes me uneasy now.
We haven't had a first round pick in forever so all additional draft capital will help us fill holes/add depth. Especially with how we've been hitting on a lot of our mid round/late picks.
It's a good point, though it will be interesting to see after the bye if the snap counts changeThe fact that Reynolds is playing as much as he is and making plays, and Jefferson isn't tells me that the rookie is not ready to produce as much as Josh has
I think this is a little apples to oranges. I actually agree that target to catch is almost a useless stat. It may show over a large sample size that a receiver just isn't making the catches if several other receivers with large sample sizes have consistently higher catch ratios. But especially with a receiver that hasn't had a whole lot of time on the field with his QB, I would expect a lower ratio. IMO, there should be a better metric that would only include catchable passes. I'm not saying to totally do away with target to catch. I just don't think it tells you all that much.I guess pass attempts are useless too? Rushing attempts?
I think it says a lot, particularly when you consider the routes a player runs. For instance a deep threat will likely have a lower catch rate than a slot WR etc. But in Reynolds case, I think it does speak volumes also considering how high they drafted Jefferson. His catch rate year after year is the lowest on the team amongst WR & TE. If he had 1 low year, sure it's written off, but every year? Goff completes 64% of his passes in McVay era and Reynolds catch rate is 53%. Everett 63%, Woods 65%, Cooks 65%, Higbee 67% and Kupp at 70%.I think this is a little apples to oranges. I actually agree that target to catch is almost a useless stat. It may show over a large sample size that a receiver just isn't making the catches if several other receivers with large sample sizes have consistently higher catch ratios. But especially with a receiver that hasn't had a whole lot of time on the field with his QB, I would expect a lower ratio. IMO, there should be a better metric that would only include catchable passes. I'm not saying to totally do away with target to catch. I just don't think it tells you all that much.
5 players the Rams could potentially trade before deadline
The Rams are unlikely to trade any key players before the deadline, but here are five possibilities.theramswire.usatoday.com
The 2020 trade deadline is on the same day as Election Day, with all deals in the NFL needing to be made by 4 p.m. ET on Nov. 3. The Rams have been aggressive in recent years at the deadline, acquiring players such as Dante Fowler Jr., Jalen Ramsey and Austin Corbett.
We’ve already laid out possible trade targets for L.A. if Les Snead is looking to add help to the roster, but let’s now look at some possible trade chips the Rams could ship out of town. To be clear, none of these players are likely to be traded, but if the Rams are in search of draft capital or maybe a player-for-player trade, they could possibly be dealt.
WR Josh Reynolds
This is less about what Reynolds has or hasn’t done and more about the lack of snaps for Van Jefferson. In the last five games, Jefferson has two catches for 22 yards and has played a total of 35 snaps. For comparison, Reynolds played 53 snaps alone in Week 7 against the Bears.
Reynolds has played well this season, catching 18 passes for 278 yards and two touchdowns, but Jefferson has shown potential, too. There simply aren’t enough opportunities to go around in a crowded receiver room. The Rams will most likely let Reynolds leave in the offseason when his contract expires, promoting Jefferson to a starting role, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea to recoup a draft pick for Reynolds now and give Jefferson more playing time in his rookie season. It’s hard to imagine the Rams getting more than a fourth- or fifth-round pick for Reynolds, though.
RB Malcolm Brown
For the same reasons the Rams might consider trading Reynolds, they might also think about dealing Brown. He’ll also be a free agent in 2021 and he, too, is blocking a rookie from playing. Brown has done a nice job behind Darrell Henderson but his presence has all but eliminated Cam Akers’ role. Trading Brown would not only give Henderson more chances as the starter, but also give Akers additional snaps, which will help his development.
It’s all but certain that the Rams will let Brown walk in free agency this coming offseason, opening the door for Akers in 2021, but why not give the rookie more chances now? He’s shown flashes of potential, it’s just that there’s only one football to go around for three running backs.
CB Troy Hill
The Rams’ secondary is playing really well right now, with Hill improving after a difficult start. He’s gotten better since playing outside more often than in the slot, but he’s still allowing a completion rate of 78.3%. The Rams probably won’t want to break up the chemistry they’ve found in the secondary, but 2019 third-round pick David Long Jr. is waiting in the wings.
He’s barely played this season and trading away Hill would get him on the field sooner and more often. That’s not to say he’d be an upgrade over Hill, but the Rams have to get something out of Long at some point. He was sticky in coverage in college and should be able to hold up outside in the NFL. This is a real long shot to happen, but you never know with the Rams. They offloaded Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib at the deadline last year.
TE Gerald Everett
Everett’s name always comes up when discussing possible trade chips for the Rams, and this year is no different. It was even reported in September that the Rams got calls about Everett’s availability but declined them. When healthy, Tyler Higbee is the starter at tight end. Johnny Mundt showed he can be more than just a blocker against the Bears, and Brycen Hopkins was essentially drafted to replace Everett in 2021 and beyond.
Everett could probably net the Rams a mid-round pick and help a team in need of a pass-catching tight end, but that may not be enough to warrant a trade by L.A. He has a role on offense and there’s no guarantee that Mundt or Hopkins would be able to replace his production on the field. In all likelihood, the Rams will probably hold onto Everett for the rest of the season and take the compensatory pick that he’ll net them by leaving in free agency.
DL Sebastian Joseph-Day
Joseph-Day has been the Rams’ starting nose tackle the last two years and there’s been no word that he’s on the move. However, the Rams were clearly not content with him coming into 2020 as the starter after signing A’Shawn Robinson and then bringing back Michael Brockers.
Well, Robinson is set to return this week and Brockers is playing well, which means Joseph-Day’s role will be limited moving forward. The Rams also have Greg Gaines and Morgan Fox in the rotation, so they don’t lack defensive line depth – and that’s without even mentioning Aaron Donald.
Joseph-Day won’t get the Rams much in return, but if he’s also not going to play much at all, something is better than nothing – especially for a team in need of draft capital.
When a pass is thrown to them that is clearly uncatchable not only is it an incomplete pass but that stat will show that the receiver failed to catch the ball when it clearly was not his fault. So two people get blamed, the QB and the WR. Unfair stats by far.I guess pass attempts are useless too? Rushing attempts?
Well, if the QB completion % is consistently higher throwing to other recievers, doesn't that make it fair in comparing players on the same team? The QB is the same, so why such a variance? Is Reynolds running more difficult routes? I dont think soWhen a pass is thrown to them that is clearly uncatchable not only is it an incomplete pass but that stat will show that the receiver failed to catch the ball when it clearly was not his fault. So two people get blamed, the QB and the WR. Unfair stats by far.
I think this is a little apples to oranges. I actually agree that target to catch is almost a useless stat. It may show over a large sample size that a receiver just isn't making the catches if several other receivers with large sample sizes have consistently higher catch ratios. But especially with a receiver that hasn't had a whole lot of time on the field with his QB, I would expect a lower ratio. IMO, there should be a better metric that would only include catchable passes. I'm not saying to totally do away with target to catch. I just don't think it tells you all that much.
So a QB can complete 8 for 10 or 8 for 17, and it doesnt matter?It's like one of those MNF stats they just throw out at us. More for talking heads to discuss, but I never use the word target when I talk about WRs, just catches. I like keeping it simple in this case, like before that stat was introduced.
On an interception the player the QB threw the ball near to is the stat target, as is a throw away out of bounds. It also brings up, if say 2 receivers end up running in the same spot, that the target could be misinterpreted. Just too many variables to rely on. I would never blame Josh for 8 catches on 17 targets, so I just ignore the target stat.
How many points do you get for a target in fantasy football?A target is only a stat for the Fantasy Football crowd. It allows us (non coaching staff or stats folk....) to see if a receiver has a decent makeup, that the QB will throw his way. That throw-a-away passes are counted as such, should show how "needed" the stat actually is.