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Rams game-by-game predictions: 8-8?

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2017 Los Angeles Rams game-by-game predictions
Alden Gonzalez/ESPN Staff Writer

LOS ANGELES -- The Los Angeles Rams' featured non-NFC West games in 2017 will be against the AFC South, the only division that didn't have a team with double-digit wins last year. Their first two games will be at home. Their last game will come against a popular pick to finish with the NFL's worst record.

In between are several winnable games, too. But the Rams, under an entirely new coaching staff, still have a lot to figure out internally. Here's an early, game-by-game look at how the 2017 season could shake out.

Week 1: Sunday, Sept. 10, vs. Indianapolis Colts, 4:05 p.m. ET

One thing is pretty clear about the Rams' 2017 schedule: They'll face a lot of good quarterbacks. The first will be Andrew Luck. But Luck is coming off shoulder surgery, and Rams quarterback Jared Goff will be facing a shaky secondary. He should get off on the right foot here. Record: 1-0

Week 2: Sunday, Sept. 17, vs. Washington Redskins, 4:25 p.m. ET

Former Redskins offensive coordinator Sean McVay left to become the Rams' head coach, and soon thereafter, Washington's top two receivers, DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon, signed with other teams. Now coach Jay Gruden has a transitioning offense on his hands. But it's still better than the one McVay inherited. Record: 1-1

Week 3: Thursday, Sept. 21, at San Francisco 49ers, 8:25 p.m. ET

Last year, the 49ers embarrassed the Rams in a season-opening game on Monday Night Football. The 49ers won two games in 2016, and both came against the Rams, the last one on the strength of an impressive comeback at the Coliseum. The 49ers, now under Kyle Shanahan, will continue to be bad. The Rams should be better against them. Record: 2-1

Week 4: Sunday, Oct. 1, at Dallas Cowboys, 1 p.m. ET

This will be the Rams' toughest test all season. Their defense should be pretty good, but new defensive coordinator and former Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips will have a hard time trying to contain QB Dak Prescott, RB Ezekiel Elliott, WR Dez Bryant and TE Jason Witten. On offense, the Rams don't have anything close to the firepower to keep up. Record: 2-2

Week 5: Sunday, Oct. 8, vs. Seattle Seahawks, 4:05 p.m. ET

Hate on Jeff Fisher all you want, but for some reason, he seemed to have some weird magic touch when it came to beating the Seahawks. It's unlikely McVay will have that same feel, simply because most coaches don't. The Seahawks' defense -- perhaps rejuvenated by the return of safety Earl Thomas -- will be a big early test for McVay's developing offense. Record: 2-3

Week 6: Sunday, Oct. 15, at Jacksonville Jaguars, 4:05 p.m. ET

The Jaguars are no strangers to offseason spending. And this offseason was no different, as they splurged on three new defensive players: defensive end Calais Campbell, cornerback A.J. Bouye and safety Barry Church. At home, they'll make life really difficult on Goff and his offense. Record: 2-4

Week 7: Sunday, Oct. 22, vs. Arizona Cardinals in London, 1 p.m. ET

The Cardinals have lost as much as the Jaguars gained on defense. Four of their top six defensive snap leaders from 2016 signed elsewhere. Coming off a disappointing 7-8-1 season, Arizona has holes all over its defense -- holes Goff can exploit in Twickenham Stadium, where the Rams suffered a heartbreaker to the Giants last year. Record: 3-4
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Week 8: Bye
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Week 9: Sunday, Nov. 5, at New York Giants, 1 p.m. ET

Another long flight -- though it's coming off a bye -- and another difficult matchup. The Giants feature two dynamite cornerbacks in Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Janoris Jenkins. And now, with Brandon Marshall joining Odell Beckham Jr., the Giants have two standout receivers for QB Eli Manning. They should be pretty good. Record: 3-5

Week 10: Sunday, Nov. 12, vs. Houston Texans, 4:05 p.m. ET

The Texans won the AFC South without J.J. Watt, but they did so with a minus-49 point differential, seventh-worst in the NFL. And though Watt should be healthy again, their quarterback situation has not been resolved. The Rams will be happy to be back home. Record: 4-5

Week 11: Sunday, Nov. 19, at Minnesota Vikings, 1 p.m. ET

The Vikings -- much like the Rams -- have had to overhaul their offensive line. For a Rams defense that is led by Aaron Donald and is now overseen by Phillips, who's very creative in the ways he can pressure the quarterback out of a 3-4 base set, this is usually a good matchup. But not this time. Record: 4-6

Week 12: Sunday, Nov. 26, vs. New Orleans Saints, 4:05 p.m. ET

Rams fans have probably tried really hard to forget about this team. The Saints dealt the Rams perhaps their most crushing blow of 2016, annihilating them 49-21 in New Orleans. But the Saints have had a hard time putting pieces around aging QB Drew Brees in recent years, and the Rams should get some revenge. Record: 5-6

Week 13: Sunday, Dec. 3, at Arizona Cardinals, 4:25 p.m. ET

The last time the Rams played in Arizona, they stunned the Cardinals and improved to 3-1 to start 2016. It was the apex of their season; perhaps the apex of Fisher's tenure. The Cardinals probably won't let that happen again. Record: 5-7

Week 14: Sunday, Dec. 10, vs. Philadelphia Eagles, 4:25 p.m. ET

This will be the most highly anticipated game of the season. Goff, the 2016 No. 1 overall pick, goes up against Carson Wentz, the 2016 No. 2 overall pick. Wentz entered the NFL with more experienced coaching than Goff, and now he has something Goff still lacks: a true No. 1 receiver in Alshon Jeffery. But maybe I just have a gut feeling about this one. Record: 6-7

Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 17, at Seattle Seahawks, 4:05 p.m. ET

It's the Seahawks, at home, late in the season, when they'll probably be fighting for playoff positioning. But in Washington, McVay was a master at adjusting to exploit opponents' weaknesses, and he'll pick up a few things from the Week 5 meeting between these teams. Record: 7-7

Week 16: Sunday, Dec. 24, at Tennessee Titans, 1 p.m. ET

The Titans are coming off only their second winning season in eight years, and franchise quarterback Marcus Mariota was very good down the stretch. They're on the rise, and they should be a playoff contender in 2017. Record: 7-8

Week 17: Sunday, Dec. 31, vs. San Francisco 49ers, 4:25 p.m. ET

One shot, at home, against the lowly 49ers, to capture their first non-losing season since 2006? The Rams get it done. Record: 8-8

Baltimore Ravens Draft Report

Baltimore Ravens Draft Report

Top needs coming into draft:

Wide receiver: The Ravens lost a pair of sure-handed receivers when Steve Smith Sr. retired and Kamar Aiken signed with the Indianapolis Colts. Baltimore was not able to fill that void in free agency, so the team needs to find a playmaker in this year's draft.

Offensive Line: Starting guard Vlad Ducasse signed with Buffalo, OT Rick Wagner signed with Detroit and C Jeremy Zuttah was traded away leaving the Ravens with holes to fill on the OL.

Outside linebacker: The Ravens cut ties with Elvis Dumervil following the season and they need to find a replacement in the draft. Several linebackers drafted over the past few years have not shown they can be an effective pass rusher and the heir to Terrell Suggs, who is age 34

Running Back: Baltimore has several middling running back options but nobody capable of carrying the load.


RD. 1. #16 Corey Davis WR, Western Michigan
Davis has ideal height-weight-play speed for the position. He lines up inside and outside, and he's a very polished and precise route runner. He powers through press coverage and does a nice job of changing speeds and creating separation down the field. He attacks the football in the air with very strong hands and he's nifty after the catch. He doesn't have elite speed but he's plenty fast. Overall, Davis is an excellent player with both a high floor and a high ceiling.
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Baltimore traded their #47 pick to Detroit for #53, #165 and #215

Rd. 2. #53 Carl Lawson DE Auburn
Speaking of pass-rushers who are toeing the line between the first and second rounds, Auburn's Carl Lawson is another player who is flying under the radar.

CBS Sports ranks Lawson as its No. 39 overall prospect, putting him just out of reach of Round 1. But depending on teams' rankings and preferences, Lawson could hear his name called on Day 1.

Lawson has the talent to be a first-round lock, but teams may be concerned about the torn ACL he suffered that caused him to miss the Tigers' entire 2014 season. However, Lawson started to get his footing back in 2015, playing seven games with three tackles for loss, a sack and 11 quarterback hurries, and really got things going in 2016.

Last season, Lawson played 13 games and amassed 13.5 tackles for loss, nine sacks, 24 hurries and a forced fumble, terrorizing SEC quarterbacks the whole way. His flexibility could make him attractive to a number of teams looking to beef up their pass rush in the first round.
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RD. 3. #78 Taylor Moton OL Western Michigan
Taylor Moton has been a starter at Western Michigan since his redshirt freshman year. The big offensive lineman has spent most of his snaps playing right tackle for the Broncos but spent a season playing RG as well. One of the reasons Moton projects to go as high as the first round (according to who you ask) is his versatility. Moton got a chance to go down to Mobile earlier on the month for the Senior Bowl. He was very good at right tackle but word is he was dominant at the guard position there. There is no doubt there will be some teams that see his value more at OT than OG and vice versa but for Moton, it’s a good thing especially in an overall weak OL class.

Moton looks the part of an NFL tackle. He is well built all around and his length and strength show up on tape. The raw physical skills are there but Moton needs a lot of work with his technique and fundamentals. With the praise he received at the Senior Bowl he may have already started working on those issues. If he continues to build upon his Senior Bowl performance at the Combine next month he could be a big riser.
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Rd. 3. #99 Ethan Pocic OL LSU
Played tackle, guard and center at LSU. Moves well to the second level. Shows good balance on tape and athletic ability when pulling. High football IQ and work ethic. Fantastic at recognizing blitzes. Strong in pass protection and in the run game. Good knee bend and flexibility despite his high. Finesse blocker who makes things look effortless on film.
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Rd. 4. #122 Duke Riley LB LSU
Former LSU linebacker Duke Riley is receiving high praise leading up to the 2017 NFL draft.
According to NFL.com’s Bucky Brooks, scouts have anticipated big things from LSU linebackers based on the recent success of fellow former Tigers Kwon Alexander and Deion Jones. While Kendell Beckwith was the name many expected to generate draft buzz in the fall, Riley has since grabbed scouts’ attention after a strong combine performance.

The senior, who led LSU with 93 tackles, led all linebackers in the 40-yard dash (4.58 seconds), three-cone drill (6.89) and 20-yard shuttle (4.21). He also recorded a 34.5-inch vertical jump, 122-inch broad jump and 18 reps on the bench press.
According to Brooks, scouts have been impressed with Riley’s “impressive instincts and athleticism,” as well as being a “consistent tackler with strong wrap-up skills.”

“Looking ahead to draft day,” Brooks writes, “I believe Riley grades as a bottom-of-the-second-round player (eventual starter with the potential to crack the lineup by Year 2), but I could see him going at any point on Day 2 (Rounds 2-3) to a team looking for a potential starter with special-teams ability. Considering how Alexander and Jones were also viewed in that light before emerging as difference makers on their respective teams, scouts would be wise to keep tabs on Riley during the process.”
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RD. 5. #159 Vincent Taylor DT Oklahoma ST.
Plays with exciting power and quickness. A pocket collapser that consistently finds a way to make the QB uncomfortable.
Wins with his strength and active hands. Commands double teams at times and can still get home at the right angle.
Takes advantage of inside gap on blockers led to his outstanding sack and TFL totals this year.
Never stagnant and works hard virtually ever rep. Excellent motor.
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RD. 5 #165 Tyler Orlosky OL West Virginia
West Virgina,s Tyler Orlosky is a solid prospect that can easily win a starting spot early in his rookie season.
Tyler is an experienced and highly effective center prospect. He was the leader of West Virginia’s offensive line showing the ability to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage. Orlosky has the makings of a long-term NFL starter.

His ability to snap and step in one motion allows him to quickly get into proper position. He does a great job of gaining inside hands and Velcroing to his target. Orlosky has heavy hands which makes it difficult for the defender to disengage and allows him to control the action.
His hand placement and quickness out of his stance also allows him to seal the defender from the play. He has a knack for using proper angles and getting his body between the defender and ball carrier.
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RD. 6. #186 Corey Clement RB Wisconsin
From a production standpoint, there’s a lot to like about the 2016 season with Corey Clement. Despite the injury in 2015, I still think he has the ability to have a long career at the next level. Clearly, he has to improve on his ball security and blitz pick-up but I think with the proper coaching, that can happen.

Throughout his career, he played in 43 games with 15 career starts (13 starts in 2016). Received First-Team Big Ten honors (coaches) & Second-Team Big Ten honors (media) for 2016. Beyond just game experience and awards, there’s a lot to like about Corey Clement. His running style is similar to Carlos Hyde’s but so is his size (5’11 – 225 lbs). He’s a one cut and up type of back with his ability to shed tackles and constant fall forward to gain extra yardage. Being an instinctive runner with patience is key in the NFL and I think he carries those traits.

My overall perception is that Corey Clement can be one of the top backs in the 2017 NFL Draft. Personally, he’s my 5th ranked running back in the position rankings and he should hear his name get called in the 3rd round of the 2017 NFL Draft.
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RD. 7. #215 Carroll Phillips LB Illinois
Explosive college defensive end who projects to outside linebacker on Sundays. Athletic, plays with great pad level and displays speed moving in every direction. Easily collapses down the line of scrimmage or out to the flanks and catches ball carriers in backside pursuit. Displays good change of direction and the ability to immediately alter his angle of attack and redirect to ball handlers. Covers a lot of area on the field. Performed brilliantly during Senior Bowl practices.
Entering the season Phillips was graded as a camp body by scouts, but his draft stock has been on a straight shot north since September. He’s athletic, explosive and showed the ability to handle 3-4 outside linebacker duties
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Corbin Dallas's SECSY Schedule Announcement Mock Draft...SB here we come!

Ok I'm excited now so I can plan my schedule to go watch some games. Probably going to watch a game in AZ, LA, and for sure Dallas with my stupid Cowturd friends. Anyways here is a mocker here we go!

Trades:
I think these two trades are very realistic if you look at the value and numbers.

Rams make two trades before the draft:

Rams trade to Titans:
CB Trumaine Johnson and our 2017 6th and two 7th round picks
Titans trade to Rams:
2017 Picks #83 and picks #100
Why would the Titans do this you ask? Their biggest need this draft is between a WR and CB and they have 47 million in cap space to take on Tru's salary.

Rams trade to Denver:
2017 #112 and 2018 5th and 6th picks
Denver trades:
2017 pick 101

NFL DRAFT:

2nd Rd. Pick # 37
Evan Engram TE Ole Miss
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Mcvay Gets his TE that makes his offense go which in turn frees the rest of the offense to turn it on. If we ran 12 personnel with Engram, Higbee, Kupp, Woods, and Tavon with Gurley in the backfield and assuming our line isn't total shit who the hell is going to stop us? Goff is going to have like 4k plus yards!!!

3rd. Rd. Pick # 69
Cooper Kupp WR Eastern Washington
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Someone said the other day that Kupp is from Eastern Washington and doesn't play great competition.......... Watch the video please. He plays top defenses, CB's and schools. @jrry32 sure as hell sold me on this dude he's a football player through and through. I do not think he will be gone right away in the second and see him there in the 3rd for us.

3rd Rd. Pick # 83
Cordrea Tankersley CB Clemson
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This guy has really grown on me in the last few weeks. I like his athleticism and his fearless play coming off the corner. Looks like a damn fine Son of Bum corner if I've ever seen one!

3rd Rd. Pick # 100
Jourdan Lewis CB Michigan
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He is from the Maize and Blue, should I say more? lol jk jk My boy here would be a perfect compliment to Tankersley on the other side and both will be on cheap contracts for 4-5 years before a deal needs to be made kinda like Tru and JJ were. Dude is a bit small but makes the hell up for it with crazy ball awareness and quickness.

3rd Rd. Pick # 101
Anthony Garcia OT Troy
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I drafted this guy in my mock draft and would be a perfect guy to have sit as a back up for Whitmore and G -Gob until G Rob f's the RT spot up. I'm sorry I have zero confidence in the dude and I pray I'm wrong but Mr. Garcia here would be a nice piece of insurance for both considering Whitmores' age.

4th Rd. Pick # 141
Delano Hill FS Michigan
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I seriously do not like Joyner at our FS. I know I'll catch heat for saying this again but he's to short and a penalty machine. Enter Hill who not only is a Wolverine but he is a dead set open field tackler, a ball hawk/turnover machine, gets off blocks to make a tackle, and is not afraid to lay the wood. He is 6'1 216 with a 4.47 40 time. Tell me you wouldn't want this guy back there in center field with our DL tearing peoples asses fielding balls for us or tackling someone who gets loose? Joyner sure as hell is not a sure tackler.

5th Rd. Pick 149
Jon Toth C Kentucky
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Another guy @jrry32 turned me onto early in the offseason. Like his potential and looking forward to having somebody at the very least standing in front an opposing DT if not blocking him. Anything should be an upgrade over our revolving glass door at C last year. I would like for him to learn behind Sullivan and be insurance for him and our Guards.


Projected Starters
QB: Jared Goff
HB: Todd Gurley
FB: Cory Harkey
WR: Robert Woods
WR: Cooper Kupp
WR: Tavon Austin
TE: Evan Engram
LT: Andew Whitworth
LG: Rodger Saffold
C: John Sullivan vs. John Toth
RG: Rob Havenstein
RT: Greg Robinson vs. Antonio Garcia

LDE: Dominque Easley
NT: Michael Brockers
RDE: Aaron Donald
LOLB: Connor Barwin
LILB: Mark Barron
RILB: Alec Ogletree
ROLB: Robert Quinn
LCB: Cordrea Tankersley
RCB: Jourdan Lewis
SLCB: LaMarcus Joyner
FS: Delano Hill
SS: Maurice Alexander

K: Greg Zuerlein
P: Johnny Hekker
LS: Jake McQuaide
KR: Pharoh Cooper
PR: Tavon Austin

Drafted 5 starters with 2 really good depth picks for our future to develop with the new regime. I say we might be heading to play the Pats again in the SB right? :)

Compilation of Mock Drafts

The attachment at the bottom of this post is a .zip file containing an Excel sheet with 23 recent and 25 not so recent 1st Round Mock Drafts. A raw data 1st Round average of the 23 recent mocks and a weighted average of all mocks is included. There's nothing here you can't find on your own but if this data interests you you are welcome to it. You are also free to add, remove, or re-weight mocks as you see fit.

The Excel sheet uses my own personal colour schemes rather than the Microsoft default colours. If you use Excel semi-regularly and you don't care for the overly bright and all too similar default colours you are welcome to transfer any/all colours or use the basic sheet as a default template for your future use.

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RAMS 2017 SCHEDULE

RAMS 2017 SCHEDULE (Day, Network | PT time)
Preseason Week 1: vs. Dallas Cowboys
Preseason Week 2: at Oakland Raiders
Preseason Week 3: vs. Los Angeles Chargers
Preseason Week 4: at Green Bay Packers

Week 1: vs. Indianapolis Colts (Sunday, CBS) | 1:05 p.m.
Week 2: vs. Washington Redskins (Sunday, FOX) | 1:25 p.m.
Week 3: at San Francisco 49ers (Thursday, NFL Network/Amazon Prime) | 5:25 p.m.
Week 4: at Dallas Cowboys (Sunday, FOX) | 10 a.m.
Week 5: vs. Seattle Seahawks (Sunday, CBS) | 1:05 p.m.
Week 6: at Jacksonville Jaguars (Sunday, FOX) | 1:05 p.m.
Week 7: vs. Arizona Cardinals (Sunday, FOX) | 10 a.m. London
Week 8: Bye
Week 9: at New York Giants (Sunday, FOX) | 1:05 p.m.
Week 10: vs. Houston Texans (Sunday, CBS) | 1:05 p.m.
Week 11: at Minnesota Vikings (Sunday, FOX) | 10 a.m.
Week 12: vs. New Orleans Saints (Sunday, FOX) | 1:05 p.m.
Week 13: at Arizona Cardinals (Sunday, FOX) | 1:25 p.m.
Week 14: vs. Philadelphia Eagles (Sunday, FOX) | 1:25 p.m.
Week 15: at Seattle Seahawks (Sunday, FOX) | 1:05 p.m.
Week 16: at Tennessee Titans (Sunday, FOX) | 10 a.m.
Week 17: vs. San Francisco 49ers (Sunday, FOX) | 1:25 p.m.

The Texans and the Jadeveon Clowney contract quandary

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The Texans picked up Jadeveon Clowney's fifth-year option recently, comfortably ahead of the May 2 deadline. The option will pay Clowney, the top overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, $13.846 million in 2018 and is guaranteed for injury upon exercise. This fifth year becomes fully guaranteed early next March on the first day of the 2018 league year.

Clowney has answered critics that had been suggesting the Texans drafted the wrong edge rusher in 2014 with the first overall pick. Knee problems sidelined Clowney for 15 of the 32 regular-season games in his first two years and kept him out of Houston's playoff loss during the 2015 season. Meanwhile, Khalil Mack, the fifth overall pick, experienced immediate success with the Raiders. Healthy for the first time last season, Clowney was named to the Pro Bowl in 2016 and earned some first-team All-Pro/All-NFLhonors. He played a pivotal role in the Texans giving up the fewest yards in the NFL despite losing three-time Defensive Player of Year J.J. Watt to a back injury three games into the season.

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Will the Texans negotiate with Jadeveon Clowney this offseason? USATSI

Clowney's stellar play in 2016 has put him in line for a contract extension either this offseason or next year before the start of the 2018 regular season. The Texans have a long-standing policy against negotiating contracts during the regular season. There are challenges the Texans will encounter regardless of whether Clowney is taken care of contractually sooner or later.

The Texans' pecking order for extensions
DeAndre Hopkins, the Texans' first-round pick in 2013, staged a one-day holdout when training camp opened last year protesting the Texans' refusal the negotiate an extension before his fourth year. Hopkins had a point: The Texans had negotiated with Watt and Whitney Mercilus, their first-round picks in 2011 and '12, before their fourth seasons. Watt's extension came in early September 2014 in the days leading up to the start of the regular season. Mercilus got his new deal in May 2015 at the deadline to pick up his fifth-year option.

Hopkins is entering his contract year. General manager Rick Smith indicated that the Texans intend to re-sign Hopkins when he addressed the media at the NFL combine in early March. A new deal for Hopkins isn't imminent.

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DeAndre Hopkins wants to get paid. USATSI

The Texans run the risk of alienating Hopkins if Clowney is treated in the same manner as Watt and Mercilus before his own contract is extended. After expressing displeasure with his contract situation last offseason, Hopkins would likely view the Texans signing Clowney first as disrespectful and make him willing to test free agency in 2018. At the very least, the Texans should engage in meaningful contract discussions with Hopkins before turning their attention to Clowney. If the Texans were to reach an impasse with Hopkins, Clowney getting a new deal at this juncture should be less of an issue for the Pro Bowl wide receiver.

Clowney's contemporaries
Proactive NFL teams make a practice of extending the contracts of core players well in advance of free agency. Early extensions can allow teams to lock up very good to great players for a number of years at more affordable rates than if their contracts had expired.

Two fellow 2014 first-round picks that could receive extensions in the coming months might have an impact on Clowney's next contract. Aaron Donald should get a new deal in 2017 no later than the middle of September if the Rams adhere to the same timetable they did for first-round picks Tavon Austin, Michael Brockers and Robert Quinn.

Donald, the 2014 Defensive Rookie of the Year, has quickly become the NFL's most disruptive force from the interior of a defensive line. According to Pro Football Focus (PFF), his 82 quarterback pressures (combined sacks, quarterback hurries and quarterback hits) were the third most in the league last season and led NFL interior defensive lineman. Donald took the top spot in PFF's top 101 players for the 2015 season. He was second in PFF's 2016 rankings. A consensus first-team All-Pro the past two seasons, Donald has an excellent chance of becoming the NFL's first $20 million per year non-quarterback with at least $75 million in guarantees. That is if Mack doesn't beat him to it.

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Aaron Donald will likely become the NFL's highest-paid interior defensive lineman. USATSI

A new Mack contract is unlikely to occur until quarterback Derek Carr signs an extension. Carr is a higher signing priority for the Raiders this offseason because he is entering his contract year. Mack is under contract through the 2018 season thanks to the option year. He became the first player in NFL history to earn first-team All-Pro honors at two different positions during the same season (defensive end and outside linebacker) in 2015. Mack followed up this outstanding campaign by being named the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year last season. If Donald gets a new deal first, his contract will serve as the salary floor for Mack.

Clowney's camp is likely to view new deals for Mack or Donald as relevant or important data points. The Texans probably won't consider Clowney as comparable because both players made an instant impact in the NFL as rookies and have continued to elevate their level of play. In order for it to become a more valid comparison, Clowney will need to erase durability concerns by duplicating or bettering his 2016 success during the upcoming season.

Internal salary consistency
A bigger concern for the Texans than any impact possible Donald or Mack deals might have on Clowney's eventual negotiations is maintaining internal salary consistency. Watt was the closest thing to a modern day Reggie White, who is arguably the greatest defensive football player of all-time, before his two back surgeries last year. If Watt is anything close to his previous form this season, he will be a shoo-in to win the NFL's Comeback Player of the Year award for 2017.

Watt has five years left on the six-year, $100 million contract extension he received before the 2014 season, which made him the NFL's highest-paid non-quarterback upon signing. He is a tremendous bargain financially with $67.5 million over the remaining five years of his contract, which runs through the 2021 season. Six defensive players have already surpassed Watt in the NFL's salary hierarchy. He will continue to drop as more players that can consistently put pressure on opposing quarterbacks, such as Donald and Mack, sign new contracts.

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J.J. Watt is hoping to return to form this season. USATSI

Paying Clowney more than Watt will likely be problematic if the two-time NFL sack leader continues to be a dominant force. The Texans would need to adjust or renegotiate Watt's contract with multiple years remaining as well to avoid having a disgruntled franchise cornerstone.

A potential solution
The Texans should either reach an agreement on a new deal or impasse with Hopkins before offseason workouts end in mid-June to allow plenty of time to negotiate with Clowney, given their preseason deadline for new contracts. Getting Clowney to take a two-year extension that doesn't reach Watt's $16,666,667 average yearly salary and has less than the $50 million he is scheduled to make over the next four seasons (2017-20) should be seriously considered by the Texans.

A first-round pick receiving a two-year extension after the exercise of his fifth-year option isn't unprecedented. In 2015, the Patriots signed offensive tackle Nate Solder to a two-year, $20.062 million extension with $19.938 million fully guaranteed at signing. Solder also can't be designated as a franchise or transition player when his contract expires after the upcoming season.

A two-year extension for $32.5 million would pay Clowney slightly more than $49.8 million through the 2020 season. A $16.25 million new money average is $250,000 per year less than Cardinals franchise player Chandler Jones' recent five-year contract. Only Mack and Super Bowl 50 MVP Von Miller have more than Jones' 23.5 sacks during the last two seasons.

This type of deal would need to be front-loaded and a substantial amount of the $32.5 million of new money would need to be fully guaranteed at signing. For example, Clowney's 2017 compensation could be reduced to his $690,000 league minimum where he receives a $16.25 million signing bonus. He would be making close to $17 million in 2017 instead of slightly under the $3.5 million that's in his current rookie contract. Clowney's $13.846 million 2018 option year salary could be increased by a couple million and immediately become fully guaranteed rather than next March. The 2019 season would be either fully guaranteed at signing or convert from an injury guarantee to a full guarantee next March. He would receive no more than an unsecured or conditionally guaranteed $10 million in 2020, the final contract year. A tag prohibition clause shouldn't be given to Clowney.

Clowney would have to be comfortable with his contract not being comparable to the deals Donald and Mack are going to sign. The value of the two-year extension would likely be somewhere between $5 million and $10 million less than the compensation of the first two new years of a longer extension. He would hit the open market or get franchised in 2021 as a 28 year old anywhere from two to four years before Donald and Mack. Absent an extension in 2020, Clowney's third contract would come under a new collective bargaining agreement (CBA), which could be more favorable to players. The current CBA runs through the 2020 season.

Whether the Texans propose this concept or Clowney is receptive to it remains to be seen. I had a positive experience with a shorter-term extension for a Pro Bowl caliber player in the early 2000s while an agent.

The firm I worked for represented Dolphins cornerback Patrick Surtain. Sam Madison, who entered the NFL a year before Surtain, had previously signed a seven-year extension averaging $7 million per year in 2000. That was really good cornerback money considering the salary cap was $62.172 million.

During our negotiations of Surtain's extension the following year, we initially insisted that he should be the highest-paid cornerback on the team. This was a deal breaker for the Dolphins because they viewed Madison as slightly better at the time and a more accomplished player but also wanted seven new contract years as in his extension.

A good trade off to us was a much shorter extension allowing the Dolphins to maintain their cornerback salary hierarchy. We accepted a four-year extension at slightly under $7 million per year where Surtain's contract was set to expire two years before Madison's.

Surtain got another lucrative contract in a sign-and-trade to the Chiefsseveral days before the 2005 NFL Draft. The Dolphins contract was Madison's only big contract of his career.
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ROD NFL Mock Undrafted Rookie Free Agents Thread

Making our own thread for the ROD Mock undrafted free agents we can sign so it is easier to find and not make the official thread confusing! Thanks for the idea of making its own thread @DaveFan'51 . You can choose to participate in this thread after the ROD Mock Draft ends or not. Its just for fun! We can discuss how we want to do pickup UDFAs. So far our ideas are:

1. A max of 4 players per team (Gives everyone a chance to grab some guys)
2. 1 max position each (So you cant be grabbing 4 QBs or 4 WRs) you must grab 4 different position players
3. First GM to post a player claimed gets said player.
4. If someone posts a claimed player before you in thread they own his rights and you can just edit and change to a new player.
5. Alert the GM if a player is already picked and let them know the player was already claimed so they can change it.
6. You can then edit your post after your player claims and then do a write up/videos etc with them if you want!

Discuss your ideas this is just what we got atm. This is for the draft nerds that want to do this!

Because of suicide, Hernandez' family might get paid

http://patriotswire.usatoday.com/20...ll-have-to-pay-aaron-hernandez-after-suicide/

This story just doesn't end! Looks like the law states that since he committed suicide during the appeals process and can't defend himself the convictions get dropped. Which means the NFL may owe his family a pension and the Patriots may owe them millions from his contract that was withheld because of the convictions. I'm sure it'll be a legal battle either way.

If that is why he killed himself then props to him for trying to do something good for his family and most of all his daughter. It would be one of the few decent things he's done with his life.

2017 Tampa Bay Buccaneers ROD Mock Draft recap

First off I would like to thank @Alan for another great effort in keeping this mock Draft under control for seven rounds, outstanding!


Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2017 NFL Draft:

1st round (14) - Leonard Fournette (RB) LSU
IMO the steal of this Draft at 14! Top 5 talent! He has a terrifying combination of size 6'1" 228-240 lbs, speed 4.5 40, and power. Has been compared to AP and Bo
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2nd round (50) - Zay Jones (WR) East Carolina
Versatile receiver who lined up all over the field, catches the ball effortlessly with his hands and has great route running ability. Comes from an accomplished football family, his father Robert Jones has three SB rings with the Cowboys and he even played for the Rams one season and led the team in tackles.
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3rd round (84) - traded up to 14 from 19 to Draft Fournette. No way he's there at 19, being that he was still on the board at 14 felt the need to get him.


4th round (125) - Eddie Jackson (S) Alabama
If he can bounce back from the fractured leg he will be solid ballhawking safety. Would have been late first early second rounder if not for the injury.
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5th round (162) - Zach Banner (OG) USC
If he keeps his weight under control he has the size 6'9" to step in and play OG right now with the potential to bounce outside and play OT.
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6th round (204) - Matt Milano (LB) Boston College
Gap-filler that plays the run well even being undersized. Hybrid type LB that's also aggressive in the pass-rush with 11 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks, and 1 interception his senior year.
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7th round (237) - Hunter Dimick (DE) Utah
What he lacks in physicality he makes up for in effort. Plays hard and finished 3rd in the country for sacks (14.5), also was a first-team All-PAC-12 selection in his senior year.
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It was a lot of fun doing this again this year. Everyone involved did a super job and it will be fun to see if anyone's picks actually happen when the live bullets start flying!

Jon Gruden optimistic about Jared Goff, Sean McVay

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angele...gruden-optimistic-about-jared-goff-sean-mcvay

Jon Gruden optimistic about Jared Goff, Sean McVay
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LOS ANGELES -- Jon Gruden, the ESPN analyst who recently finished taping his eighth "QB Camp" series, isn't yet ready to make a full assessment of Los Angeles Rams quarterback Jared Goff, last year's No. 1 overall pick.

"He came out early -- a true junior," Gruden said on a conference call Wednesday. "I don't think he's a hundred percent what he's going to be physically; I still think he's going to get stronger, I think he's going to mature physically.

I do think that he went into a difficult situation. That's an offensive line that has struggled; that's a receiving corps that has struggled. And his inexperience -- I think that's a difficult combination for a young quarterback. And I think that's a big reason why they were 0-7 when he was the starter."

During that seven-game stretch to finish the 2016 season, Goff had the NFL's fourth-lowest completion percentage (54.6), fourth-worst touchdown-to-interception ratio (0.71), second-lowest Total QBR (22.2) and fewest yards per attempt (5.31).

Carson Wentz followed Goff by joining the Eagles with the No. 2 overall pick last April, immediately taking the two best quarterbacks off the board. That stands in stark contrast to the outlook for this year's draft, which brings serious questions about the ability and slotting of Mitchell Trubisky, Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes and Deshone Kizer.

The Rams certainly weighed the uncertainty of this year's quarterback class when they moved up 14 spots to select Goff last year, but now they have to figure out a way to get Goff right.

Enter Sean McVay.

McVay's first job in the NFL came as a coaching assistant on Gruden's Buccaneers team in 2008. His last job, as Washington's offensive coordinator the last three years, saw him work under Gruden's younger brother, Jay.

And a major reason the Rams ultimately made McVay the youngest head coach in the NFL's modern era stemmed from Jon Gruden's ringing endorsement early in their search.

Gruden believes McVay will inject "a lot of energy, a lot of optimism" into a team that has suffered 10 consecutive losing seasons and is coming off a 4-12 year.

"I just think he's going to bring a real positive, upbeat presence to the offensive side of the ball," Gruden said. "And fortunately for him, he's hired one of the best defensive minds in all of football over the last 25 or 30 years [in coordinator Wade Phillips].

I think they have a unique battery there -- a young, energetic offensive coach who's proven he can get the job done, and a very, very good, experienced defensive coach on the other side."

Alternate realities; biggest draft what-if for all 32 teams

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pag...nate-realities-biggest-draft-all-32-teams#NFC W

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Dallas Cowboys
What if the Bengals hadn't selected James Francis No. 12 overall in 1990?

The Baylor linebacker had been Jimmy Johnson's preferred choice. Johnson saw Francis as a do-everything linebacker with the ability to rush the passer or drop in coverage. The Cowboys had to "settle" for Emmitt Smith at No. 17, and all he did was help bring the Cowboys three Super Bowl wins in a four-year span and become the NFL's all-time leading rusher. Francis had a 10-year career, spending nine seasons with a Bengals team that largely floundered during his tenure. Smith has a record that looks like it never will be broken. -- Todd Archer

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New York Giants
What if the Giants never made the trade for Eli Manning and kept Philip Rivers in 2004?

Would they still have won those two Super Bowls? That's always a fun "what if?" Former Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi conceded over the years there wasn't a contingency plan if things fell through at the final minute. The Giants already had drafted Rivers even though they had Ben Roethlisberger rated ahead of him. In retrospect, it's hard to imagine the Giants would've struggled with Rivers, Shawne Merriman (the 2005 first-round pick from the trade), Nate Kaeding (third round in '04) and Roman Oben on their roster. The only question is whether it would've led to multiple Super Bowls. Rivers developed into a Pro Bowl quarterback. But something tells me the Giants might not be trying for their fifth trophy in the case this year if Rivers had remained a Giant. -- Jordan Raanan

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Philadelphia Eagles
What if the Eagles were more aggressive and drafted Russell Wilson in 2012?

Then-coach Andy Reid was high on Wilson, and there have been countless tales of how the Eagles had intentions of taking the Wisconsin signal-caller in the third round. The Seahawks wrecked that plan by selecting Wilson 13 picks before Philly was on the clock. The Eagles went to Plan B and took Nick Foles, who started off hot, came back down to earth, was traded, and is now back with the team as a reserve. Wilson, meanwhile, has been a steady force on a Seahawks team that has averaged 11 wins over the past five seasons with two Super Bowl appearances (including one win). The Eagles are happy with their new QB, Carson Wentz, but a Wilson-Reid marriage would have changed the trajectory of the franchise. The lesson: If you are sold on a particular quarterback, don't wait around for him to come to you. -- Tim McManus

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Washington Redskins
What if the Redskins had never drafted Robert Griffin III in 2012?

It certainly looked like a good move at the time when Griffin became the NFL Rookie of the Year and made the Pro Bowl. But Griffin hurt his knee, never developed as a passer and now is trying to find work with a third franchise. Had the Redskins kept their original choice (sixth overall), they likely would have selected QB Ryan Tannehill. It would have been interesting to see how he would have developed under Mike and Kyle Shanahan. It also would have given the Redskins three more draft choices, including two first-rounders, to try to rebuild an aging roster. After making the trade with St. Louis in 2012, the Redskins learned of salary cap penalties that cost them $36 million of cap space in '12 and '13. Losing those two first-rounders became a bigger deal, especially when Griffin failed to develop. -- John Keim

Chicago Bears
What if the Bears had the foresight to draft Aaron Rodgers No. 4 overall in 2005?

Can you imagine Rodgers quarterbacking the Bears when Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs and Charles Tillman were all in their primes on defense? Chicago won back-to-back NFC North titles in '05-06 and reached Super Bowl XLI with Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman running the offense. Add Rodgers to the mix, and the Bears -- under Lovie Smith -- probably win multiple championships. Instead, the Bears drafted Cedric Benson, who lasted three years in Chicago. Since 2006, the Bears have qualified for the postseason one time -- ironically losing to Rodgers and the Packers at Soldier Field in the 2010 NFC Championship Game. -- Jeff Dickerson

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Detroit Lions
What if the Lions had taken Andre Johnson instead of Charles Rogers at No. 2 overall in 2003?

The entire course of the franchise in the 2000s might have changed. Instead of a bust at receiver in Rogers, then-quarterback Joey Harrington would have had a potential Hall of Fame pass-catcher and a reliable target instead of Rogers, Bill Schroder, Az-Zahir Hakim, Tai Streets and Scottie Vines as targets. The Lions might not have gotten Roy Williams the following year, but who knows what it would have done for Harrington's confidence having a guy such as Johnson. And as a final kicker to the switch, the reliability of Johnson likely would have meant general manager Matt Millen would not have taken wide receivers in the first round for three consecutive years -- something he never was able to get past in Detroit, particularly after two of the three (along with Mike Williams) were colossal NFL busts. -- Michael Rothstein

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Green Bay Packers
What if Aaron Rodgers hadn't fallen all the way to No. 24 overall in the 2005 draft?

Who would be the quarterback today? While in the short term it might have extended Brett Favre's career in Green Bay and the messy divorce might have been avoided, it's a good bet that the Packers wouldn't be on a current run of eight straight playoff appearances. Or maybe Alex Smith would be their quarterback today. If the 49ers had taken Rodgers instead of Smith at No. 1, perhaps Smith would have been the Packers' pick at No. 24. -- Rob Demovsky

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Minnesota Vikings
What if the Vikings hadn't made the Herschel Walker trade?

It might be the most infamous trade in NFL history, more because of what it did to set up the Cowboys' three championships in the 1990s. But had the Vikings not given up eight draft picks -- including three first-rounders and three second-rounders -- it's interesting to think about how the NFC would have looked in the early '90s, given the fact the Vikings still made the playoffs seven times in the decade. Assuming the Cowboys' dynasty doesn't happen without the trade, do the 49ers win another title or two? Do Brett Favre's Packers teams get to more than two Super Bowls? Or do the Vikings -- a frequent thorn in Favre's side -- use a few of those picks to acquire players that help put them over the top? -- Ben Goessling

Atlanta Falcons
What if the Falcons hadn't traded away five picks to move up and select Julio Jones No. 6 overall in 2011?

If the trade never happened, general manager Thomas Dimitroff would have had to come up with a much better group of five players than the Browns did in return with DT Phil Taylor, WR Greg Little, RB Owen Marecic, QB Brandon Weeden and RB Trent Richardson. Having a player as dynamic as Jones certainly justified the trade, even if the Falcons voided themselves of some depth. Had the trade not occurred, maybe the Falcons could have landed a group of five that included DE Cameron Jordan (21st overall, 2011), WR Randall Cobb (59th overall, 2011), CB Richard Sherman (124th overall, 2011), LB Dont'a Hightower (22nd overall, 2012) and CB Josh Norman (118th overall, 2012). -- Vaughn McClure

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Carolina Panthers
What if the Panthers hadn't given up their 1999 (No. 5) and 2000 (No. 12) first-round picks to Washington for Sean Gilbert?

They would have had their choice of Ricky Williams, Torry Holt, Champ Bailey or Daunte Culpepper in 1999 and their choice of defensive ends Shaun Ellis and John Abraham in 2000. For a team that went 8-8 and 7-9 during those two seasons with Gilbert, it seems the value of those they could have had might have been better served. -- David Newton

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New Orleans Saints
What if the Saints had not traded the No. 1 overall pick in the 1967 draft?

There are plenty of worthy candidates for a franchise once known as the "Aints," who didn't win their first playoff game for more than 30 years. (For example, what would be known as the wackiest draft trade in NFL history if the Saints hadn't swapped all of their picks, and more, for Ricky Williams in 1999?) But the Saints never truly topped their very first draft-day blunder, when they traded the No. 1 pick in the 1967 draft to the Colts for Johnny Unitas' backup quarterback, Gary Cuozzo. Cuozzo eventually lost the Saints' starting job to Billy Kilmer and got traded to the Vikings a year later (for two top-10 picks that never amounted to much). The Colts, meanwhile, drafted former NFL great defensive lineman Bubba Smith with that No.1 pick. -- Mike Triplett

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Tampa Bay Buccaneers
What if the Bucs hadn't selected Mark Barron No. 7 overall in 2012?

Tampa could have taken Luke Kuechly, who was picked two spots later and is a four-time Pro Bowler for Carolina. The Bucs' secondary struggled and Barron was traded to the Rams in 2014. The Bucs also could have picked Aaron Rodgers instead of selecting Cadillac Williams with the fifth overall pick in 2005. Rodgers went 24th overall. They also could have selected Drew Brees, who was taken 32nd overall in the 2001 draft, but instead, they selected a human-penalty machine in offensive tackle Kenyatta Walker. For an organization that's never had a true franchise quarterback until now, those misses are tough to swallow. -- Jenna Laine

Arizona Cardinals
What if the Cardinals had drafted Adrian Peterson No. 5 overall instead of tackle Levi Brown in 2007?

This is a sore spot for Cardinals fans, as well as the franchise, a decade later. Arizona passed on drafting a franchise-changing running back in favor of a left tackle (which is a necessary requirement for a team to prosper). But just imagine pairing Peterson with Larry Fitzgerald? A lot of people in Arizona -- including Fitzgerald -- still wince at the lost opportunity. The Cardinals' only Super Bowl appearance in 2009 could've ended very differently had Peterson been in the backfield. Brown started 79 games for the Cardinals over seven seasons. -- Josh Weinfuss

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Los Angeles Rams
What if the Lions had passed on the opportunity to take Matthew Stafford No. 1 overall in 2009?

Not that it was a certainty, but what if the Rams had then taken Stafford with the No. 2 pick? Instead, the Rams chose Baylor tackle Jason Smith, who was expected to replace Hall of Famer Orlando Pace. Smith famously flopped, his three years in St. Louis marked by injury and underperformance. Stafford, meanwhile, has been a Pro Bowl-caliber quarterback for the past eight years and counting. Taking Stafford would've provided the Rams with a smooth transition from Marc Bulger and locked down the most important position for a decade. Who knows what would've come after? The Rams would've never drafted Sam Bradford, would've never had to move up to take Jared Goff. And they might not be coming off their 10th consecutive losing season. -- Alden Gonzalez

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San Francisco 49ers
What if the 49ers had drafted Aaron Rodgers instead of Alex Smith No. 1 overall in 2005?

After the golden era of 49ers quarterback play spearheaded by Joe Montana and Steve Young had come to an end, the team found itself in a perpetual search to find the next in line. After a series of misses, the 49ers finally had their chance with the first pick in the 2005 draft. The choice came down to Utah's Smith or Cal's Rodgers. Rodgers grew up and played in the Niners' backyard (similar to Tom Brady, another eventual star quarterback the 49ers passed on) but then-coach Mike Nolan didn't view Rodgers as being the "safe" choice. Nolan believed Rodgers was arrogant and had questions about his throwing motion. The Niners went with Smith, who turned into a solid if unspectacular quarterback, while Rodgers has turned into one of the league's best players. Twelve years later, the 49ers' search for a franchise quarterback is still ongoing. -- Nick Wagoner

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Seattle Seahawks
What if the Seahawks had drafted Andy Dalton in 2011?

General manager John Schneider reportedly was ready to pick Dalton with the 25th pick before the team decided to go with offensive lineman James Carpenter. Had the Seahawks gone with Dalton, they almost certainly would not have selected Russell Wilson the following season. Would Dalton have won the starting job as a rookie like Wilson did? Given the talent on defense, how far could a Dalton-led Seahawks team have gotten? The Bengals have never won a playoff game with Dalton at QB. The Seahawks have made it to the divisional round in every season with Wilson. -- Sheil Kapadia

Buffalo Bills
What if the Bills had drafted Rob Gronkowski in 2010?

The Buffalo area is not a hotbed of NFL prospects, but Gronkowski -- perhaps the greatest tight end in NFL history -- grew up in nearby Williamsville, New York, and easily could have played for his hometown team. Every team except the Ravens, Panthers and Bears passed up Gronkowski before the Patriots selected him No. 42 in 2010. But the Bills had the No. 41 selection and took defensive tackle Torell Troup, whose career was cut short by a back injury. It is debatable whether Gronkowski would have been as successful without Tom Brady throwing him passes in Buffalo, but consider this: Of the 44 tight ends drafted by the Bills all-time, none has made the Pro Bowl. Gronkowski has made it four times. -- Mike Rodak

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Miami Dolphins
What if the Dolphins had drafted Darrelle Revis in 2007?

The Dolphins' 2007 draft was littered with "what ifs?" but the biggest was ninth overall pick Ted Ginn Jr., who was not close to being a No. 1 receiver. There were plenty of franchise players available such as Revis, linebacker Patrick Willis and running back Marshawn Lynch. Miami also selected quarterback bust John Beck in the second round and tailback Lorenzo Booker in the third round that year in a draft that contributed to its worst record (1-15) in franchise history. -- James Walker

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New England Patriots
What if the Patriots had drafted Jerry Rice in 1985?

The Patriots traded the 16th pick in the draft to San Francisco, along with a third-round selection, in exchange for picks in the first (28th), second (56th) and third (84th) rounds. The 49ers selected Rice with the 16th overall pick. Perhaps Rice never would have had the same Pro Football Hall of Fame career, or maybe he would have starred in New England and the team's current run of success would have started even sooner. That's a fun one to consider, right there with what life would be like for the Patriots if they didn't turn in their 2000 draft card with Tom Brady's name on it in the sixth round (199th overall). -- Mike Reiss

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New York Jets
What if the Jets had drafted Brett Favre in 1991?

The Jets thought they had a trade worked out with the Cardinals. The plan was to switch places with the Cards in the second round and pick Favre, whom the Jets had rated as the No. 1 player on their draft board. (They had no first-round pick.) At the last minute, the trade fell apart. Favre went to the Falcons and, with the next pick, the Jets settled for QB Browning Nagle. His career consisted of 500 fewer touchdown passes than Favre. -- Rich Cimini

Baltimore Ravens
What if the Ravens drafted Tom Brady in 2000?

Matt Cavanaugh, Baltimore's offensive coordinator at the time, placed a second- or third-round grade on Brady, but he didn't sell Brady as a can't-miss prospect. As a result, the Ravens selected quarterback Chris Redman in the third round. Redman won a total of four games in his eight-year career, while Brady became the first quarterback to win five Super Bowls after being selected in the sixth round by the Patriots. The Ravens are left to wonder what Brady could've done for them if paired with Ray Lewis and Ed Reed on defense. -- Jamison Hensley

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Cincinnati Bengals
What if the Bengals traded with the Saints instead of sticking with Akili Smith in 1999?

The Saints offered the Bengals nine picks -- all of their picks in 1999, first-round picks in 2000 and 2001, and a second-round pick in 2002. But the Bengals didn't budge from the No. 3 overall pick and selected Smith, who was benched by his second season. If the Bengals had accepted the offer, they would have moved down to No. 12 in the 1999 draft, but at least had the No. 2 overall pick in the 2000 draft in addition to their original pick. On the board at that time -- Brian Urlacher. In 2002, the Bengals likely would have picked No. 23 overall via the trade, in addition to their other original first-round selection. Drew Brees would have still been available. The Bengals, however, would have actually had to hit on those extra draft picks. Of all the players they selected in 1999 and 2000, none made the Pro Bowl as a Bengal. They didn't strike gold until 2001, when they selected wide receiver Chad Johnson in the second round. The Bengals went 4-12 in 1999, 4-12 in 2000, 6-10 in 2001 and 2-14 in 2002, finally righting the ship in 2003 when they hired Marvin Lewis and drafted quarterback Carson Palmer. Could one of those extra picks have changed the direction of the franchise starting in 1999? -- Katherine Terrell

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Cleveland Browns
What if the Browns had drafted Khalil Mack and Derek Carr in 2014?

The team never gave much consideration to Mack, who has turned into a star for the Raiders. Had the Browns taken Carr, their quarterback saga might have ended. The most painful part of the story: Instead of Mack and Carr, the Browns wound up with Justin Gilbert and Johnny Manziel in the first round. It's not overstating it to say that draft set the Browns back five years. -- Pat McManamon

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Pittsburgh Steelers
What if the Steelers had drafted Darrelle Revis in 2007?

In Mike Tomlin's first season with the franchise, Revis went one selection ahead of the team's No. 15 pick, which it used on linebacker Lawrence Timmons. What if Revis fell one more spot? The Steelers' defense would have rolled out a vicious corner tandem of Ike Taylor and Revis, who grew up in the Pittsburgh area. Revis would test his shrewd business sense with the Steelers' patient, tradition-rich organizational approach. Perhaps Revis could have retired on his own terms -- as a Hall of Famer in his hometown. -- Jeremy Fowler

Houston Texans
What if the Texans had drafted Derek Carr in 2014?

After a 2-14 season, the Texans had the No. 1 pick in the 2014 draft. They used the first overall pick on Jadeveon Clowney, but Carr was still on the board at No. 33. Instead, Houston took guard Xavier Su'a-Filo, who has not been an impact player thus far. Carr, who is the brother of former Texans No. 1 pick David Carr, had a breakout season in 2016 and has been consistent for the Raiders for the past three seasons. Meanwhile, the Texans have started eight different quarterbacks during that time period. -- Sarah Barshop

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Indianapolis Colts
What if the Colts had taken Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning No. 1 overall in 1998?

The state-of-the-art Lucas Oil Stadium likely wouldn't be in Indianapolis because Leaf lasted only three seasons in the league. Manning's right arm and intelligence helped the Colts to 11 seasons of 10 or more victories, 11 postseasons and a Super Bowl title. Manning is a lock to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer. The Colts are hoping their decision to take Andrew Luck with the No. 1 overall pick over Robert Griffin III in 2012 will end as well. -- Mike Wells

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Jacksonville Jaguars
What if the Jags drafted Russell Wilson in 2012?

The Jaguars drafted Blaine Gabbert 10th overall in 2011 and brought in Chad Henne as a free agent in March 2012, so there was no reason for the Jaguars to consider taking a quarterback in the 2012 draft. That's why they never even considered Wilson in the third round, instead opting to use the 70th overall pick on punter Bryan Anger. Four picks later, Seattle took Wilson -- who had a fantastic career at NC State and Wisconsin -- and eventually led the Seahawks to a pair of Super Bowl appearances. How much different would the Jaguars' fortunes be in the weak AFC South had Wilson been the starter over the past five seasons? It's unlikely the franchise would be entering the 2017 draft having lost at least 11 games for six consecutive seasons. -- Mike DiRocco

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Tennessee Titans
What if the Titans had drafted Randy Moss in 1998?

He was still on the board at No. 16, when the Titans were the Tennessee Oilers, but they drafted Kevin Dyson out of Utah instead. Dyson had the ball in his hands for the franchise's two iconic moments: the Music City Miracle and the stretch that came up short of the goal line and a tie on the final play of Super Bowl XXXIV. But Moss, drafted 21st in Minnesota, scored 17 TDs as a rookie, 92 in eight years with the Vikings and 156 in his 14 seasons. The Titans have yet to have a receiver nearly as dynamic. Moss was with three teams in 2010, including eight games with the Titans when they had no idea what to do with him at that stage. -- Paul Kuharsky

Denver Broncos
What if coach Josh McDaniels had done more with the Broncos' 2009 class?

The team had two first-round picks -- Knowshon Moreno and Robert Ayers -- who never were selected to a Pro Bowl. McDaniels, by then the lead voice in the Broncos' personnel decisions, traded a first-round pick to move up in the second round to take Alphonso Smith, whom he eventually shipped out. One of the other second-rounders, tight end Richard Quinn, didn't think he would be drafted and never caught a pass for the team. Of the 10 players in the draft class, Moreno led the team in rushing three times, but only safety David Bruton Jr. (a fourth-rounder) consistently played at or above the level of where he was selected. The Broncos had five picks in the draft's top 64 players -- two became starters and none was named to a Pro Bowl. McDaniels was fired 12 games into the 2010 season. -- Jeff Legwold

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Kansas City Chiefs
What if the Chiefs could've drafted Andrew Luck?

In 2013, the one time the Chiefs had the draft's No. 1 overall pick, there was no quarterback worthy of such a lofty selection. But if Andrew Luck had stayed at Stanford for his final season instead of declaring for the 2012 draft, there would have been. There's no telling what the Chiefs would have accomplished the past four seasons if Luck was their quarterback. But it's safe to say they would have done better than one AFC West title and one playoff victory. -- Adam Teicher

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Los Angeles Chargers
What if Peyton Manning had fallen to the Chargers at No. 2 overall in 1998?

The move would have put a team four years removed from a Super Bowl appearance right back in position to contend for an NFL title, and also changed the career paths of future franchise quarterbacks in Philip Rivers and Drew Brees, as the Chargers likely would have passed on both with Manning in the fold. And a Super Bowl appearance led by Manning could have been the driving force to get a stadium deal done in America's Finest City, so perhaps the Chargers could have stayed put in San Diego. However, just like younger brother Eli, Peyton Manning may not have been thrilled about the possibility of playing for the Chargers, so perhaps we would have seen another draft day trade. -- Eric D. Williams

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Oakland Raiders
What if the Raiders had drafted Dan Marino No. 26 overall in 1983 instead of Don Mosebar?

Yes, we already know the Raiders believed they had a deal for John Elway hijacked by the NFL earlier in the day, but when it came time for the Raiders to pick, there sat Marino, who was free-falling and could only watch as other QBs in Elway, Todd Blackledge, Jim Kelly, Tony Eason and Ken O'Brien all went before him. Unfounded drug rumors circulating about Marino scared off the Raiders, who thought they were set with Jim Plunkett and former first-round pick Marc Wilson, and Marino went one selection later to Miami. Mosebar had a solid career, going to three Pro Bowls, but Marino was a Hall of Famer. How much better might he have been with the Raiders' defense? How much better would the Raiders have been with Marino under center in the 1980s and '90s? "[We] made a bad, bad mistake in relationship to Marino," former Raiders director of player personnel Ron Wolf said on an ESPN 30 for 30 special on that 1983 draft. "To this day I call him Dan, Dan Mosebar. Because [we] blew [it on] Marino. And he knows that." Perhaps Marino wins a Super Bowl or two and the galvanized Raiders do not become nomads, never leaving Los Angeles for a return trip to Oakland with a future engagement in Las Vegas on the horizon. -- Paul Gutierrez

Season Tickets

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ROD Mock Results - Tennessee

What's up draftnicks and football starved Ram fans? Time is winding down until the actual draft, and as I'm sure most of you are well aware; we've been powering through a helluva 7 round mock (4th annual, matter o' fact). I had the pleasure of representing the Tennessee Titans this year, and here's where I felt they should go/could go/might go.

First off, player moves. Gone are OG Chance Warmack, TE Anthony Fasano, WR Kendall Wright, S Rashad Johnson, LB Sean Spence (amongst others).
They've brought in a couple pieces to supplement an underachieving defense, NT Sylvester Williams and S Jonathan Cyprien

1.) 5th overall acquired from some team in California, the Titans went with
Malik Hooker - Safety Ohio State: I really feel like defensive secondary is going to be a big focus for this team. Hooker was not only probably the best player available here, he also conveniently helped fill a need. They have 2nd year guy Kevin Byard at FS, Hooker here and Cyprien that can play a sort of hybrid role a'la Mark Barron.

2.) 32nd overall (we moved back a couple of times here and acquired a couple additional 3rd round picks in the process).
Zach Cunningham - LB Vanderbilt: There's room for improvement here with Wesley Woodyard and Avery Williamson as the primary ILBs here. Cunningham is a big dude with a frame that can still put some mass on, and he's a great downhill player for a defense that struggled against the run last year.

This was my first big regret though. I had quite a few guys on the board I still liked at #18, so I moved back to 27 thinking I could grab John Ross (who was still out there) or a CB. Ross went, and a couple nice CBs were still there so I moved back to 32. Conley and Jackson both went right in front of me. Bummer.

3.) 83rd overall ArDarius Stewart - WR Alabama
This is a mean football player and I'm really glad I got him here. He reminds me a lot of Percy Harvin. He's an absolute load at 5'11" 200lbs, and he plays a lot quicker than his 4.50 40 time. He'll make an excellent replacement in the slot for Kendall Wright.

4.) 100 overall Shaquill Griffin - CB UCF
I really missed out on an opportunity to have added a couple of great CBs in this draft like I should have. Ending up with Griffin here was a good consolation prize though. Under the radar at UCF, but he'll fit nicely in the zone scheme in Tennessee.

5.) 103 overall Jake Butt - TE Michigan
TE is looking a bit thin in Tennesse with Delanie Walker a bit long in the tooth and really no one to back him up. Butt's an extremely well rounded player and I feel he was a bargain here.

6.) 104 overall Jaleel Johnson - DE/DT I0wa
There's some concern with Karl Klug working back from a torn achilles. Johnson has a great motor and a fantastic first step. He has some aspects of his game that remind me of Aaron Donald.

7.) 124 overall Dawuane Smoot - DE/OLB Illinois
A really intelligent football player and extremely atheletic for a dude his size (former Junior USA Hurdles runner) he'll play a 3-4 pass rusher, but he'll have some time to develop behind Orakpo and Derek Morgan.

8.) 164 overall Jordan Morgan - OG/OT Kutzman
He was a beast for his small Division III school, and he'll have to slide inside in the NFL, but the Titans could use someone with a pulse on the interior of the line either way.

9.) 214 overall Josh Augusta - DT Mizzou
Augusta is a whale, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. He's 6'4" and played last year at 390lbs. He's already slimmed down 50lbs in prepping for the NFL, so that's really encouraging. He'll play the nose in Tenn, and can rotate in for Sylvester Williams.

10.) 236 overall Fish Smithson - S Kansas
Smithson is another really intelligent football player. The measurables leave some to be desired, but in this scenario we're sliding him down to play some nickel CB rather than S and hoping he can get a rotational job to stick.

I strongly suggest everyone to check out the Mock thread. ROD posters know their shit and it showed in this mock! I know in my case, I got burned thinking I could bank on some players flying under the radar. If I could do it all again, like I said, I'd try and capitalize on that deep secondary class a bit more and try to address a bit more depth on the oline as the position is quite scarce this year.

Ranking the 2017 NFL Head Coaches

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...ach-from-bill-belichick-to-the-class-of-2017/

Call it the great coaching divide. That ís what we have in the NFL today. There ís New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick, and the rest -- no matter how you stack them -- are way, way, way behind.

Belichick is arguably the greatest coach of all time, a sentiment bolstered by continued success in the era of free agency and roster turnover. Of course, Tom Brady cures almost any ills and allows Belichick to be bold with his roster, but even so he is a detail freak who gets the most out of his players and is unreal when it comes to game planning.

Add all that to his five Super Bowl rings and Belichick is the obvious No. 1 on my list ranking current coaches from 1-32. Nobody else is in the conversation and it's not because there aren't plenty of good coaches in this league.

Belichick drives fantasy players nuts because they never can tell what the Patriots will do on offense from week to week. And on defense, Belichick's hybrid unit is as unpredictable as they come. It's all testament to his greatness: You never know what ís coming.

He ís not afraid to take chances. Those Super Bowl rings -- including the latest, the epic comeback vs. Atlanta after trailing 28-3 in the second half -- are his skins on the wall. They allow him freedom to gamble, though any risk is always calculated.

I can't read enough about Belichick and his philosophy. Books or stories about him are textbooks on coaching and team building. This might sound like I am slobbering about the guy, but he has made some bonehead decisions late in games -- which I am quick to point out, much to the chagrin of Patriots nation -- though none of them diminish his football genius; it just shows that even the best can screw up situational coaching.

Even though he got lucky getting Brady in the sixth round -- that's the only way to describe drafting the greatest of all time that late -- Belichick also has helped mold Brady into the player we see today.

It's always a treat to log onto Patriots.com and watch Belichick break down tape of players and plays. I recommend it to anybody who wants to take a look behind the curtain at this football savant.

For this list, I'm ranking 27 coaches who have experience, with the five first-time coaches tied at No. 28. It wouldn't be fair to rank them since they have yet to coach a game. They have a long way to go to sniff Belichick territory. Then again, so does everybody else.

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1. Bill Belichick, Patriots

Five Super Bowl victories solidifies this spot. It's hard to consider any conversation about the best ever without his name coming up. How much longer will he do it is the question. He has a winning percentage of .673, which is 11th all time, one spot behind Don Shula. He has 237 regular-season victories, which is fourth all time, and he can tie Tom Landry for third if he wins 13 next season. Shula appears to be out of reach with 328, but he did it in 33 seasons. Belichick has done it in 22, although 14 of Shulaís seasons came with a 14-game schedule and one shortened to nine because of a strike. The guy is legend, and it ís a treat to watch him work -- even when he blows the end of games. Yes, that's another dig.

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2. Mike McCarthy, Packers

There were some who wanted him fired the past two seasons. That was purely absurd. He has the second-best winning percentage (.651) of any active coach, behind Belichick. He has had double-digit victories in eight of his 11 seasons with the Packers, with only one losing season. He also has a Super Bowl win, but gets dinged some for his 10-8 playoff record. With Aaron Rodgers, some expect more. Maybe one more ring ends the debate.

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3. Andy Reid, Chiefs

He has had three losing seasons in 18 as a head coach, one of those in his first with the Eagles in 1999. He has had 11 seasons of 10 or more victories, including the past two seasons with the Chiefs. He has been to the playoffs 12 times, but reached the Super Bowl only once and has an 11-12 postseason record, which hurts. Even so, he's a damn good coach. I know he doesn't have a ring, but he has done some amazing things, which is why he's in this third spot, above some guys who have won rings.

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4. Pete Carroll, Seahawks

He has been an NFL coach in three different spots, totaling 11 seasons. His has a .588 career winning percentage, but he has a .629 percentage in his seven seasons in Seattle, with one Super Bowl victory and was a yard away from a second. He has at least 10 victories in each of the past five seasons. His easy-going approach with players has paid off big. It's hard to believe he turns 66 this September, but there is a lot of good coaching left in him.

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5. Mike Tomlin, Steelers

In his 10 seasons with the Steelers, he has never had a losing record. That's impressive. He has seven seasons of double-digit victories and is 1-1 in Super Bowls and 8-6 overall in postseason play. There are some who question whether he's just a guy who oversees everything rather than a hands-on coach. I don't buy that. He knows what it takes to win, no matter how he gets it done.

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6. Asshole Face, Saints

There are some who will say three consecutive 7-9 seasons should drop him, but I don't buy it. Take a look at the roster. Yes, he's responsible for some of it, but I think the blame goes above him. The defense has lacked play-makers. Payton is still one of the league's best offensive minds. If he were a free-agent coach, he would be signed in an instant. He has five seasons of double-digit victories and no season worse than 7-9. He also won a Super Bowl. If they fix the defense this season -- and they've made strides -- they will be in the mix again to get back to the Super Bowl.

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7. John Harbaugh, Ravens

He has five seasons of double-digit victories in nine with the Ravens, and he has one Super Bowl victory, that coming in the 2012 season. He has had only one losing season, a 5-11 stinker in 2015, and he's only 13-19 the past two seasons without a playoff berth. It hasn't helped that he has changed offensive coordinators like he changes underwear. That makes Ravens fans a little jumpy when it comes to their coach. This could be a big year for Harbaugh and his job status. Three non-playoff seasons would be tough to overcome.

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8. Adam Gase, Dolphins

He is a star in the making. Gase took over the Dolphins last season and got a team hardly stacked with talent to 10-6 and into the playoffs. He has great give-and-take with his players, knowing when to push and when to pull back. He is also a great offensive mind, which you need in this league today. One more thing: He is a maniac when it comes to working, which can be seen in his preparation. A few years from now, he might top this list when Belichick retires if he can keep it going forward.

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9. Bruce Arians, Cardinals

He had his first losing season as Cardinals coach in 2016, going 7-8-1 in what can only be described as a major disappointment. But, counting his interim stint with the Colts in 2012, Arians has a .648 winning percentage, third best among active coaches. His players love him, and he's a keen offensive mind. If there's one criticism, he needs to fix his special teams.

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10. Bill O'Brien, Texans

O'Brien has gone 9-7 in each of his first three seasons with the Texans, making the playoffs the past two and winning a playoff game last season. That's unreal considering the quarterback situation since he has been there. He has coached the heck out of this team without a true franchise passer. Imagine if he gets one? He's a smart offensive mind who plays without a true weapon under center. That's the definition of frustration. Yet he's 27-21 over three seasons (.567). That is coaching.

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11. Chuck Pagano, Colts

Does this seem high for a guy on the hot seat after last season? Maybe, but he has a .613 winning percentage and still hasn't had a losing season in five with the Colts. This is a team that hasn't had a lot of talent, yet it has been to the postseason three times during Pagano's tenure. The past two 8-8 seasons, coming in a bad division, don't help his ranking. But the talent level wasn't good and Andrew Luck has suffered nagging injuries. If he had been fired, I think another team would have hired him quickly.

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12. Dan Quinn, Falcons

He took the Falcons to the Super Bowl in his second season, and was a blown 28-3 second-half lead away from winning a ring. The decisions made late in that game will help him grow, and he has shown amazing maturity getting past it. One of the hidden stories behind last season's Super run was how he became more involved with the defense in the second half of the season, spurring the turnaround. He has a great temperament to be a long-term success. In two years, I bet he's much higher on this list.

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13. Mike Zimmer, Vikings

It's hard to evaluate him based on an injury-decimated 2016. No coach, not even Belichick, could have sustained success through that, and yet Zimmer got the Vikings to 8-8. The year before, Zimmer led the Vikings to a division title in his second season. I think that's more of who he is as a coach than last season. His fiery approach is perfect for the modern NFL player. The offensive coordinator issues last season -- with Norv Turner walking away -- stain his résumé a little.

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14. John Fox, Bears

In his 15 seasons with Carolina, Denver and Chicago, he has been to two Super Bowls, losing both, and has five seasons of double-digit victories. He has had a rough go of it in Chicago the past two seasons, going 6-10 and 3-13, but he has had some injury issues. Even so, his belief that running the football wins games is out of date. Failing to change with the times on offense has held his teams back. His .533 winning percentage isn't that impressive, but he was 38-10 in his final three seasons in Denver. If only they had won a Super Bowl.

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15. Marvin Lewis, Bengals

He has the exact same winning percentage as Fox (.533) but has never reached a Super Bowl. In 14 seasons with the Bengals, he has six seasons with double-digit victories and four losing seasons, including 2016 when his team went 6-9-1 and missed the playoffs for the first time since 2010. There's pressure to win this season, or he could be out. There are a lot of Bengals fans who want him out, but ownership has been patient, and understandably so until last season. It's hard to argue with his record the past six seasons.

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16. Ron Rivera, Panthers

He led the Panthers to an NFC title in the 2015 season before a Super Bowl loss to the Broncos. Carolina had a Super hangover last season and fell to 6-10 after going 15-1 the previous season. In five seasons with the Panthers, he has two seasons of 10 or more wins, but losing records in the other four. His winning percentage is .557, thanks in large part to the 15-victory season. He is a defensive-minded coach, and he loves to run it and play great defense to win games. That's his style.

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17. Jason Garrett, Cowboys

Garrett has a .558 career winning percentage and led the Cowboys to a 12-4 record and a division title last season. He has had only one losing season in seven as Cowboys coach, including his interim stint in 2010. He is 29-19 the past three seasons and overcame the loss of quarterback Tony Romo in training camp last season to make the playoffs with rookie Dak Prescott. That was impressive. Early in his Cowboys career, he was criticized for game management and play-calling, but he has improved those areas the past few seasons.

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18. Jack Del Rio, Raiders

Del Rio has turned the Raiders into a legitimate Super Bowl contender. If quarterback Derek Carr didn't go down last season, they could have pushed the Patriots in the AFC. Del Rio was previously the coach in Jacksonville and led the Jaguars to the playoffs twice in nine seasons. He has a .509 career winning percentage, but expect that to go up the next few seasons with this young, talented team.

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19. Dirk Koetter, Buccaneers

He went 9-7 in his first season with the Bucs, justifying ownership's decision to fire Lovie Smith and make Koetter the coach after he served as offensive coordinator in 2015. Koetter is a bright offensive mind who has nice give-and-take with players. I always expected him to be a better NFL coach than college coach, where he served stints at Boise State and Arizona State. That's because he's a true football guy. He has no time for glad-handing the alums. I think Tampa Bay is finding that out, and his young team should push for a division title next season, which should move him up the list. I think he's the right guy and will have long-term success in Tampa.

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20. Jay Gruden, Redskins

He has done a nice job turning the Redskins around, going from 4-12 in his first season in 2014 to 9-7 the next and 8-7-1 in 2016. He made the playoffs in 2015, but missed out last season with a Week 17 home loss to the Giants that hurts him some on this list. His winning percentage is .448, which isn't pretty, but the first year drives it down. He is a smart offensive coach who needs to figure out how to get his team to play better defense. A change in coordinators this season might help.

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21. Jim Caldwell, Lions

Going into 2016, many expected Caldwell to struggle and maybe get fired with first-year GM Bob Quinn bringing in his own guy. But Caldwell got the Lions to the playoffs, where they lost a wild-card game to the Seahawks. If not for a late-season collapse, they would have won the division. They finished 9-7. In his three seasons with the Lions, he is 27-21. Before that, he was coach of the Colts when they went to the Super Bowl in 2009, his first year with the team. They lost to the Saints in that game. The Colts let him go after they went 2-14 without Peyton Manning in 2011.

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22. Ben McAdoo, Giants

He took the Giants to the playoffs his first season as coach in 2016, going 11-5 before losing to the Packers in the wild-card round. McAdoo, who was the offensive coordinator before taking over for Tom Coughlin, continued as the team's play-caller. The offense struggled in 2016 with McAdoo handling both roles. That will be something to watch going forward.

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23. Mike Mularkey, Titans

The Titans are Mularkey's third team after previous stops with the Bills and Jaguars. Those two stints didn't end well. He was 14-21 in two seasons with the Bills and 2-14 in one season with the Jaguars. After taking over as interim coach of the Titans in 2015, he was hired as the full-time guy last season and led the Titans to a 9-7 record. His outdated belief in running the football paid off last season as the Titans nearly won the division. The question is whether this team can continue to push for a playoff spot with that style.

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24. Hue Jackson, Browns

It's unfair to grade Jackson by his first season with the Browns. They had little talent, quarterback issues and understandably finished 1-15. He was 8-8 in his only season as the Raiders' coach in 2011. I still think he can be a darn good coach, but the body of work is so small. The Browns need to be patient and let him coach a few more seasons before passing judgment.

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25. Doug Marrone, Jaguars

He was 15-17 in two seasons with the Bills, including 9-7 in 2014 before he quit. He was 1-1 as Jacksonville's interim coach after taking over for Gus Bradley last season, which led to his hiring on a full-time basis. He is a no-nonsense guy who will bring discipline to the team, but how much is he going to be a puppet for Tom Coughlin?

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26. Doug Pederson, Eagles

When a guy starts a rookie quarterback his first season as coach, it's tough to evaluate him. But Pederson did a nice job getting the Eagles to 7-9, although they did start fast before fading. Even so, the former quarterback who learned under Andy Reid seems to have a good feel for being a head coach. As quarterback Carson Wentz improves, Pederson will look a lot better as well.

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27. Todd Bowles, Jets

In 2015, it looked like the Jets struck gold with Bowles when he led them to a 10-6 record in his first season as their coach. He did it with Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback, which is even more impressive. But then last season, it all came apart. The Jets finished 5-11 and many were questioning Bowles. Can he turn it around? The talent isn't good on his roster, and the quarterback situation is a mess. It will be a miracle if he does -- no matter what type of coach we think he can become.

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28. (tie) Sean McVay, Rams; Anthony Lynn, Chargers; Vance Joseph, Broncos; Kyle Shanahan, 49ers; Sean McDermott, Bills
We have no idea how these first-year guys will perform, even if you think you do, so they land here. There is a lot to be excited about in these cities, but isn't it always that way for first-time coaches?
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