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Who is Your Top 6 Les Snead draft Picks?

Loyal
I am just going to consider rookie years in my ranking because guys like Puka has only had one year so far.

1. Aaron Freakin' Donald: He singlehandedly changed how opposing teams blocked vs our Dline in his rookie year. Pro Bowl.
2 Todd Gurley: Our last "home run hitter" at the RB position. As a rookie, he was an electric, smart RB who was also unselfish. I was shocked the first time I saw him dance around the one yard line, running out the clock as a rookie. SAVVY!
3. Puka Nacua: Dude was critical in getting the Rams into the playoffs. He received for the most yards for ANY rookie WR in history. Pro Bowl selection.
4. Cooper Kupp: A superstar almost from day one, which we all know. He was really good in his rookie year, just not Puka good.
5. Steve Avila: It sucks that the Big Guys can't get honored more for the work they do, but Steve Avila was a revelation of consistency and availability. He did that at LG and I don't think any of us doubt him at his new position at Center.
6. Big Rob: What can be said about him besides that he has been a rock at RT for years. Eminently stable at that position, starting in St Louis.

If you consider them from a total career perspective, then I have....
1. AD
2. Kupp
3. Goff
4. Gurley
5. Big Rob
6. Johnny Hekker
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Position makeup of the first round

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QB (5)
Caleb Williams, USC
Drake Maye, North Carolina
Jayden Daniels, LSU
J.J. McCarthy, Michigan
Michael Penix Jr., Washington

RB (0)
None

WR (6)
Marvin Harrison, Ohio State
Rome Odunze, Washington
Malik Nabors, LSU
Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
Adonai Mitchell, Texas
Ricky Pearsall, Florida

TE (1)
Brock Bowers, Georgia

OT (8)
Joe Alt, Notre Dame
Troy Fautana, Washington
Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State
Olu Fashanu, Penn State
J.C. Latham, Alabama
Amarius Mims, Georgia
Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma

IOL (2)
Graham Barton, Duke
Jordan Morgan, Arizona

EDGE (4)
Jared Verse, FSU
Dallas Turner, Alabama
Laiatu Latu,UCLA
Chop Robinson, Penn State

IDL (2)
Byron Murphy II, Texas
Jer’Zhan Newton, Illinios

LB (0)
None

CB (4)
Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
Terrion Arnold, Alabama
Cooper Dejean, Iowa
Nate Wiggins, Clemson

S (0)
None
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Jer'Zhan Newton Should Be Our Pick

RamsSince1969
snackdaddy said:
Growing up there was a few hundred acres of fig orchards all around our house. Within a ten mile radius it was probably in the thousands of acres. I grew to hate figs. Even Fig Newtons.
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I buy these figs called black mountain figs and they have a bunch of flavonoids. I'm not sick of them yet but I could see how you got to where you just can't stand them.
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Earnest Jones shooting the gap

dang
Ram Ts said:
My concern with Cooper is he’s a bit light in the pants at 230. I’d prefer a bigger MLB.
Maybe that weight isn’t accurate and he’s much bigger than that now idk.

Also, I just read his weaknesses as per Walter Football: coverage and he has make up concerns (ego, bad attitude). The latter stuff does not seem to be a fit with the Rams philosophy.
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E Cooper is 6.3 230.
Guess who else is 6.3 230? Fred Warner.
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Will the Rams ignore conventional wisdom and make offense the priority?

Merlin
DzRams said:
I hadn't really considered this. Between Jackson and Noteboom, there is a cap hit this year of $16.5 mil allocated to that LT position. Maybe next year they move on from both guys and sign a premium free agent LT.

Do we know any LTs scheduled to hit the market in '25?
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Well when I say figure it out next season I am insinuating drafting the position. And the reason I think our next LT will be drafted is because good answers rarely hit the market. Only guys you get on the market are those who are doubted for different reasons. When we got Whit it was because he was old as hell. But generally you're not gonna have a Whit sitting there and you don't have hindsight to fall back on so you are rolling dice on an older or flawed player stepping up. This year there was a top OT with injury problem history, and the Rams passed on him, electing to address the interior with two big contracts which I think makes the pick likely at LT.

So the combination of rare opportunities to see a top LT on the market, plus the Rams putting so much cap space into the rest of their OL, pretty much spells out the plan. They could of course get real creative and load up another OL contract if necessary. Not saying it is impossible to do that or anything. But I doubt they pay another player at LT for a while.

In the draft they have a shot this year at 19 to find one. The class is quite strong at the top with options. There are going to be project types at 19 at the very least that we usually don't get falling to us where we typically pick in round 2. And maybe one of the better options gets to us, too, though I expect a run on the OTs to occur and as per usual they will fly off that board quickly once that starts. But it could happen for us in this draft.

If not then they're going to need to trade up next year I would think. Just use a futures pick if you need to and get it done. But that's a problem for next year. The advantage of having Boom hanging around still plus Jackson is that we should be ok for 2024.
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Reasons for WR at 19

Flatlyner
Elmgrovegnome said:
I don't hear as many people talk about the negatives on Thomas. The PFF guys don't like him. They say that he is Marques Valdez-Scantling. If they are accurate, do you use a first rounder on that?

Thomas us a one trick pony. His route running isn't great, and with his long frame, isn't likely to improve much. He's not as physical as I'd expect for a big kid, especially in contested catches. So would he be a willing blocker. Then you have a few drops and concentration lapses. I keep thinking that he's a bigger Van Jefferson. He's not the big, physical, instinctual player that Nacua is.

I'd rather they took Jalen Coker in later rounds. Coker is 6'-1" 208. He's got good hands and is a YAC machine.

Another later round receiver that I like is Ryan Flournoy. He's got plus hands, ran a 4.44 with explosive traits. He can block too. Hes 6'-1", 202 lbs and project as 7th round pick. Coker went to Holy Cross and Flournoy went to SE Missouri State. In comparison, Pearsall is 6'-1" and 198 lbs. He ran a 4.41, but is not as physical as either of these two.

Then if they want size, Johnny Wilson from FSU is 6'-6" 231 lbs. They supposedly wanted Mike Evans. Why not Wilson? Wilson is very physical. He's great at contested catches, has a huge wingspan, is a tenacious blocker with large hands. He's a physical freak athletically. He was on Feldman as freak list. He needs a lot of route refinement, but so does Thomas. He's not a blazer like Thomas. He ran a 4.52. But with his his size and strength, that could be fast enough. Mike Evans isn't a speedster.

Tez Walker ran a 4.36 and is 6'-2". He's not very physical but he's a x receiver type.

AD Mitchell is nearly identical in size and speed to Thomas. I think he or Troy Franklin are better prospects that will go in round 2.

To me there are too many good options at receiver in this draft to draft a guy like Thomas in round 1. If he was a more complete player I'd say okay. I think Franklin and Adonai Mitchell are more finished products.
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I agree with what you are saying here. I'm not a Thomas guy, I was just pointing out a reason why McVay might be salivating over getting this guy. Its hard to argue that he isn't the best deep threat in the draft, and his athletic testing did prove that. Now, do I want them to draft him, emphatically no. Of all the positions in this draft, WR is the deepest. Not sure why you would lean taking one with your 1 premium pick, unless your in range to take one of the top 3 elite guys. If it comes down to WR vs OL at 19, now you'll find me a fan of taking WR. Outside of that, nope. Too many really solid WR's sprinkled in this draft.

Oh and AD Mitchell is like 98% going in the 1st round. Several "insiders" (including Rappaport, or was it Shefty?) have stated that he is going higher then most think.
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Most Important Play In Rams History?

XXXIVwin
Psycho_X said:
That game had so much tension to it with being a defensive slugfest that the release from that one moment is something I will likely never experience again.
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You hit the nail on the head there. The '99 NFCCG was so painful to watch. Both teams scratching and clawing for every inch. And then at the end when the pressure seemed unbearable, BOOM!, a haymaker to end it.
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Rob Havenstein comments on Steve Avilla moving to center

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Memento said:
I'd be pissed beyond belief if it was Mims or Fuaga. I'd be absolutely beside myself if it's Latham or Guyton. Like, the-entire-fucking-draft-is-ruined absolutely beside myself.

Quarterback, I could at least understand, given Stafford's age and Garoppolo being...Garoppolo. But drafting a guy whom I'm absolutely certain is going to be a major bust (Latham and Guyton) would be an easy way to piss me off. After Bobby Evans, they should swear off Oklahoma left tackles. And Latham is a typical "looks like Tarzan, plays like baby Jane" type who will only ever be a right tackle.
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This time is a smoke screen . WTF - Don’t see this at all.

www.turfshowtimes.com

NFL Insider guarantees McVay will draft offense if Rams don’t trade back

NFL Network’s Peter Schrager guarantees Rams will go offense with Sean McVay’s first-ever first-round pick
www.turfshowtimes.com www.turfshowtimes.com
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ROD Pick #19 Poll (Final Version)

OldSchool said:
You guys think about the pay too much. Every player will tell you they don't talk about other people's money. They can't control it only work towards a bigger second contract. I also think it's a disservice to those guys to think they'd let it affect them.
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It’s not merely a question of whether it affects the incumbent player. It’s also a budgetary issue.

For example…Kyren Williams is also on a 5th round contract. While we need depth, would it make sense to pay Day 2 money to a guy who may only play 20-30% of the offensive snaps?

I think these are considerations.
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Do we draft a RB and a PK in the 5th round or sooner?

Corbin
For a guy who probably will have more points than any skill position player for the Rams in surprised some reserve only the 6th or 7th or last pick picks reserved only for kickers.

I’d for sure take a kicker in the 5th, especially considering that could be the difference in the playoffs where the difference between winning and losing is inches.

As for a RB I’m praying with some trade downs that net us a 3rd or 4th and nab a player like Jaylon Wright or Blake Corum.
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Latu medically cleared by the Rams per Tony Pauline

dieterbrock
WestCoastRam said:
That's a somewhat fair reading of things but what would be the incentive to lie about Latu passing his meds. I could see incentive to say he didn't.
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I agree.
And it's not like other teams arent doing their due diligence, if he passed medical all the teams will get the same info. It's not like the Rams are the only ones checking in.
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What are the best HC-GM pairings in the NFL?

Merlin
Coaches really do seem to matter in that equation. It's probably about how well they define what they are looking for, so the scouts can zero in on those traits and all. And McVay being so detailed and measured in his manner undoubtedly works with Les who also seems to be a details type.

It's why I think it's funny when I read takes by Martz for example. Who couldn't draft for shit. I mean the Rams' resurgence in drafting acumen was driven mostly by Vermiel, and the moment he left Mad Mike was reaching for his bullshit instinctive picks and whiffing his ass off, so pardon me while I completely ignore your thoughts on draft picks Mikey my boy. :laugh3:
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If there is a surprise at #19, what might that be?

Flatlyner
Elmgrovegnome said:
4 is Chop. I recently read an article on Turf Show Times that profiled the typical edge types that the Rams drafted over the years. It included players like Ogbo, Mathis, Young, Ebukam, etc….Every single one of them is a Chop Robinson clone, athletically and in body type. . But he is higher rated than them. I’d even include Dante Fowler in that list.

None of those guys were Rams first round picks, but if Snead does actually have a type, then Chop has to be in consideration.

I heard something interesting from PFF just now in Monson’s two round mock. He was debating between Latu and D.Turner for the Falcon’s first pick. He said that the Rams dropped OLBs into coverage more than any team in the league last year. So he’s assuming that Raheem will continue to value that. Turner was always dropping into coverage. Braswell was the pocket pusher. Latu dropped into coverage a lot also. So either could be the pick. He mentioned Chop Robinson also. He said Verse is the best compromise to do both.

So. Does this mean Shula will value an edge that can drop into coverage a lot? If so, Latu, Turner, and Chop could all be in play for the Rams. Chop has crazy athleticism, plus leadership. I refuse to rule him out as an option.
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I'm not entirely against drafting Chop. What I am against is drafting him at 19. Trade back makes it much more acceptable to me.
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