Who would you want as OC?

[psxpaul]

With only two games left in the season, there are rumors circulating about coaches that will get fired in a couple of weeks. Out of the teams that may clean house, are there any assistants that would be better than Schottenheimer as a coordinator?

A couple that intrigue me are Joe Philbin and Jay Gruden. Philbin may get fired if the Dolphins don't make the playoffs, and Gruden may be out if Snyder sides with RGIII.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Rhett Lashlee, Auburn

 

[jrry32]

Personally, Marc Trestman is at the top of my list. But I think he'll go back to being a Head Coach in the CFL.

 

[Cullen Bryant]

I'd stick with Schottenheimer, I think he's done a pretty good job all things considered. Poor o-line, back up qb's and a lot of young players that were shooting themselves in the foot early in the year. Just fix the few problems that remain and they'll be fine.

 

[mr.stlouis]

Schotty. Youth just got comfortable and we are three games away from having Sam back.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Schotty.
I just think it's right that the RAMS run a Coryell/Zampese offense and Norv Turner is in Minny and Martz is retired.

 

[-X-]

Rhett Lashlee, Auburn

 

[BatteringRambo]

You meant OG*, right?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I would be thrilled with Philbin but I don't think he gets fired. I wanted him over Fisher so that Sam would have a QB friendly head coach that knows how to counter a D and make an offense run. He was Green Bays OC under McCarthy and worked with Favre and Rodgers. As an O guy he would value the offensive line too.

Other than that I don't know. I really like what John Shoop has done with Purdues offense. But I don't know if he is ready for he NFL.

I am not a fan of Gruden but maybe he would work. I would like to see a new Oline coach but the best are tied up already. That is a lost art. I don't know of any up and coming young OLine coaches in the pros or college. All of the younger ones seem to have learned their craft by reading Loney's book.

 

[Ramrasta]

Anything except Gruden. Bring in someone with football intelligence, a motivating presence, and unbreakable composure, all of which Gruden lacks. Schotty would be fine if he just remained consistently creative.

 

[Corbin]

Honestly I'm very critical of Schotty but I have no plan B that I've thought about who to pick up? Hmmmm would have to do some research but thinking of some decent OC's or Offensive minds that would be good to take the reins. Norv Turner? lol

Ok I can't think right now....

 

[jap]

I have dreamed before of combining the offensive genius of Mad Mike with the defensive wizardry of Greg Williams. Of course, The Fisher King would have curb Mike's penchant for exposing his QB'S with empty backfields and excessive passing to the detriment of the rushing game, but what a wild ride that would be, and how terrifying for NFL opponents?

 

[Alan]

Packers Pass: 17-42 for 185 yards @ 4.4 per pass w/2 INTs
Rush: 25 for 168 yards @6.3 per pop.
3rd down efficiency: 4-14
E. Lacy: 15 for 97 yards @6.5 per pop longest gain 22 yards
A. Rodgers 3 for 27 yards @9.0 per pop longest gain 19 yards
J. Starks 4 for 19 yards @4.8 per pop longest gain 12 yards
R. Cobb 3 for 15 yards @5.0 per pop longest gain 12 yards
The Bills have the 5th best passing D (9th in rushing D but you wouldn't know it from this game) in the NFL.
Result: Bills 21 Packers 13. 3 points in the second half.

As you can see from the stats the Bills D couldn't stop the run. Also, those rushing stats were not inflated by a single run (like say an 89 yard scamper). I realize that Rodgers is probably the best QB in the game right now but... the Packers OC refused (apparently) to modify his game plan in the second half to go with what was working even though they were not playing catch up (tied at half time). That type of inflexibility (lack of effective half time adjustments) is what really bothers me(along with misutilization of resources) about our OC. So whoever this guy is I don't want him.

Yes I know that Rodgers could have changed every run call to a passing play.

 

[BadCompany]

My concern with changing OCs now is the effect it would have on our start next year. Didn't we spend years talking about how Bradford always had to adjust to new OCs? What about guys like Quick, and Austin, and Robinson? They needed some time to adjust/learn NFL systems too, so goes the argument. So if we change OCs again, and it takes them 4-6 games to get a handle on the new system...

Stick with Schotty I guess.

 

[Memphis Ram]

RHETT LASHLEE

Position:
Offensive Coordinator
Group:
Quarterbacks


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Second-year Auburn offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee, who helped the Tigers to a 2013 SEC Championship and a BCS Championship berth last season, helped spearhead one of the most prolific offenses in Auburn history in 2013. For the last two seasons, he has been a finalist for the Broyles Award, presented to the nation's top assistant coach.

In 2013, Auburn had the second biggest turnaround in college football history in NCAA records at +8.0 games.

Without starting quarterback Nick Marshall going through spring workouts, Lashlee coached the junior college transfer who played defensive back as a freshman at Georgia to 3,044 yards of total offense (1976 passing, 1068 rushing) while throwing for 14 touchdowns and rushing for 12 TDs.

Auburn led the nation rushing for 328.3 yards per game, was ranked 11th in total offense with 501.3 yards per game, 12th in scoring offense with 39.5 points per game, 13th with 334 first downs and 21st in red zone offense efficiency (54-of-61, .885).

The Tigers set a school record with 48 rushing touchdowns on the season, set a school record against SEC opponents with 677 yards of total offense vs. No. 5 Missouri in the SEC Championship Game.

The Tigers set SEC Championship Game team records for rushing 26 first downs, 74 rushing attempts, 545 rushing yards and seven rushing touchdowns.
Junior Tre Mason, a Heisman Trophy finalist and SEC Player of the Year, ranked third in the nation with 23 touchdowns, sixth nationally with 1,816 yards rushing, sixth with 10.7 points per game, sixth with 169.57 all-purpose yards per game and eighth with 129.7 rushing yards per game.

Mason set Auburn single-season records with 2,374 all-purpose yards, and 1,816 rushing yards and was second with 317 rushing attempts. His 46 rushing attempts and 304 rushing yards vs. No. 5 Missouri set SEC Championship Game records and was three yards shy of the Auburn record. Mason is the fifth 1,000-yard rusher he has coached since 2007 and the second Heisman finalist.

Three offensive players were selected in the 2014 NFL Draft, tackle Greg Robinson No. 2 overall by the St. Louis Rams, Mason in the third round by the Rams and fullback Jay Prosch in the sixth round by the Houston Texans.

Wide receiver Sammie Coates ranked third nationally with 21.48 yards per reception, 42 catches for 902 yards and seven touchdowns.

Trailing by one, sophomore Ricardo Louis' miracle 73-yard touchdown reception from Nick Marshall with 25 seconds remaining was deflected by a Bulldog defender and gave the Tigers a 43-38 victory over No. 25 Georgia. What could have been the play of the year, was supplanted a week later by Chris Davis' remarkable 109-yard missed field goal return for a touchdown with time expired in the 34-28 win over No. 1 Alabama, giving the Tigers the Western Division Championship.

Lashlee has spent seven of the last 10 seasons working closely with head coach Gus Malzahn and his innovative offense in a variety of capacities. Lashlee also coaches the Auburn quarterbacks.

During the 2012 season as offensive coordinator at Arkansas State, Lashlee, a Broyles Award nominee as the nation's top assistant coach, helped guide ASU to a Sun Belt Championship while ranking 17th nationally in total offense (481.8 ypg), 21st in scoring offense (36.4 ppg) and rushing offense (217.4 ypg).

Under Lashlee, school and conference record-setting quarterback Ryan Aplin was named the Sun Belt Player of the Year, leading the league in passing yards, passing efficiency and total offense.

Prior to his tenure at Arkansas State, Lashlee served as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Samford in 2011, where he installed a high-tempo offense that improved the Bulldogs' national ranking in total offense from No. 57 in the nation to No. 36 over the course of just one year, while helping the Bulldogs average 28 points per game compared to 17 a game the previous year.

He helped Samford post a 6-5 record, including a 4-4 Southern Conference mark in 2011, matching its best ever as a member of the league. Samford broke the school record for points scored in a league game with 52 against Western Carolina as Lashlee helped the school jump from No. 100 in the nation in scoring offense to No. 43. He coached Samford wide receiver Kelsey Pope, who broke the school record for receptions in a game, while quarterback Dustin Taliaferro broke Samford's career record for completions.

While at Auburn as an offensive graduate assistant during the 2009-10 seasons, Lashlee assisted Malzahn with all aspects of the offense and coached the slot receivers in 2010. In 2009, the Tigers finished 8-5 winning the Outback Bowl. During the 2010 season he helped the Tigers finish 14-0, winning the Southeastern Conference Championship and the BCS National Championship behind Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Cam Newton.

Lashlee's college coaching career began in 2006 at Arkansas, where he served as offensive graduate assistant while working with Malzahn, helping the Razorbacks to a 10-4 record and an SEC Western Division Championship behind Heisman Trophy runner-up Darren McFadden and fellow All-American Felix Jones. Lashlee worked with Malzahn at Springdale High School in Arkansas in 2004 and 2005, working with the quarterbacks and 2005 Gatorade, Parade Magazine and Rivals.com National Player of the Year Mitch Mustain.

A backup quarterback at the University of Arkansas from 2002-04, when his career was cut short due to a shoulder injury, Lashlee graduated from Shiloh Christian High School in Springdale, Ark., in 2002. He played quarterback for Malzahn (1999-2000) and Chris Wood (2001) at Shiloh Christian, posting a state-record 40 career wins (40-3-2 as a starter) while leading his team to three straight state championship game appearances that included two state titles. He was also named the 2001 AP Arkansas Player of the Year.

Lashlee owns virtually every state passing record and when his career had finished, he had broken the national record for career touchdown passes (171), career touchdowns (200), most passing yards in a game (672) and was second with 13,201 passing yards.

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/rhett_lashlee_710543.html

 

[Thordaddy]

I think the question is really moot because of course IMO unless the word to change coordinators or die comes down from on high , I have zero doubt Shotty is in like Flint with Fisher . AND IMO in view of Fisher's history with owners he'd take OR and the payoff and be a HC before the ink dried on his walking papers.
That said if Bradford's coming back I wouldn't worry about the change in system were Shotty to leave for a college job of his own volition, the changes Sam suffered from were hard on a 1-2 year player but with his experience in how to learn a system it would not be as difficult as previously.

To answer the hypothetical ,my first choice would be Martz , however I sort of think even if all the other factors were right ,Martz wanting the job, younger, etc. I think he'd be Fisher's last choice . Trestman doesn't strike me as a guy who would run the ball enough to suit Fisher ,
Bill Musgrave comes to mind ,he's the Eagles Qb coach so in order to prevent us taking him from them they'd have to promote him over Shurmer .
Philbin I can't imagine why he'd be fired he's done enough good things in the toughest division to unseat the top dog in football .
Clyde Christensen Qb coach of the Colts is another , Fisher went against the Colts twice a year ,Clyde has been with the Colts for 12 years so he's someone Fish might think would be a fit.

Considering Fisher's statements that we need to be able to run the ball when they know it's coming tells me that he doesn't hold the coach responsible for shortcomings because power football doesn't vary much from coach to coach personnel and emphasis in practice are what I'd say he intends to change.

 

[Alan]

Memphis Ram dreaming of the 70's:
Auburn led the nation rushing for 328.3 yards per game, was ranked 11th in total offense with 501.3 yards per game, 12th in scoring offense with 39.5 points per game, 13th with 334 first downs and 21st in red zone offense efficiency (54-of-61, .885).

173 YPG passing? No thanks, that only works in college. Even in college most teams are pass-oriented now. The wishbone and it's ilk are dead thank Buddha. Aren't we now going through GR growing pains for that very reason?

 

[Warner4Prez]

I think making a change is detrimental unless they're strongly considering making a change at QB. I really expect Bradford to be a spectator through camp and Preseason, so changing offensive philosophies would leave him behind in terms of reps.

 

[dieterbrock]

My concern with changing OCs now is the effect it would have on our start next year. Didn't we spend years talking about how Bradford always had to adjust to new OCs? What about guys like Quick, and Austin, and Robinson? They needed some time to adjust/learn NFL systems too, so goes the argument. So if we change OCs again, and it takes them 4-6 games to get a handle on the new system...

Stick with Schotty I guess.

Yeah, I wouldnt want to sacrifice those first 4-5 games of mediocre for the threat of worse...

As has been said before, as much as we want to blame Shotty, (and for the most part I agree with the criticism) he is running the offense that Fisher wants.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Packers Pass: 17-42 for 185 yards @ 4.4 per pass w/2 INTs
Rush: 25 for 168 yards @6.3 per pop.
3rd down efficiency: 4-14
E. Lacy: 15 for 97 yards @6.5 per pop longest gain 22 yards
A. Rodgers 3 for 27 yards @9.0 per pop longest gain 19 yards
J. Starks 4 for 19 yards @4.8 per pop longest gain 12 yards
R. Cobb 3 for 15 yards @5.0 per pop longest gain 12 yards
The Bills have the 5th best passing D (9th in rushing D but you wouldn't know it from this game) in the NFL.
Result: Bills 21 Packers 13. 3 points in the second half.

As you can see from the stats the Bills D couldn't stop the run. Also, those rushing stats were not inflated by a single run (like say an 89 yard scamper). I realize that Rodgers is probably the best QB in the game right now but... the Packers OC refused (apparently) to modify his game plan in the second half to go with what was working even though they were not playing catch up (tied at half time). That type of inflexibility (lack of effective half time adjustments) is what really bothers me(along with misutilization of resources) about our OC. So whoever this guy is I don't want him.

Yes I know that Rodgers could have changed every run call to a passing play.

I watched this game with interest because I like the Bills and especially their city(the nicest collection of Northeasterners I have encountered in my travels). The Packers are my wife's original favorite, so the courteous thing for me to do in reciprocation, of her adopting my Rams as her new favorite is to pretend to enjoy rooting for the Packers.

That game was on Rodgers. He had every opportunity to cut back on the passing game that was not working. But he didn't because of the reason it wasn't working....drops. His receivers were dropping everything and he was not always as accurate due to the pressure he was under. But they were very close to a blowout win with just a few passes not being dropped.