What Packers Fans Are Saying

[A55VA6]

Living on the IL/WI border, I know way too many Packers fans. I need this win. lol

 

[jrry32]

Most of them seem pretty reasonable. Every fan-base has homers and there are a few Packers fans with inferiority complexes (for no reason at all).

But this is going to be a brutally tough game for us. This is the type of game we drafted Gurley for. Hopefully, he can give us an Adrian Peterson like effort like he did in the 2nd half last week.

 

[rdlkgliders]

It wasn't deleted. It was locked by yours truly with an explanation. Threads like this one and several others here are traditions and need to be done the right way. A thread like this takes a lot of time and work to start and maintain. Posting a link doesn't cut it. Most members won't even bother to click the link and then the thread dies.

If someone wants to take this thread off my hands, fine. Just let me know. But then you'll need to go through every opposing teams forums every day, look for any pertinent posts concerning the Rams, copy, paste, and post them in the thread, and then monitor the thread itself in case people are at each other's throats. Any takers, hmm?

Thanks for the effort PT.
No interest in taking on that task here.
Maybe when I retire

 

[F. Mulder]

PLEASE do not read this as negativity or lack of enthusiasm coming off an impressive victory but I'd be really surprised if we carve out a victory vs GB. They have a tremendous home field advantage, the have the NFL's best QB, they are 4-0 and they can beat you so many ways. Things that the Rams must do:

1) don't fall for the Rodgers hard count
2) Rodgers will throw deep even if WR covered. He gets a ton of ticky tack PI and WR coming back for underthrown balls
3) Jenkins CANNOT bite on double moves
4) You must almost spy Rodgers IMO. He is very dangerous with his feet and arm
5) You must be able to control the TOP (Which we suck at so far).
6) The Pack is banged up but they seem like NE in that some unknown will step forward and make a difference.
7) This is a game where the Offense of the Rams MUST win the game. The Rams will not win 17-14. They need Gurley and Austin to step up again. They need to sustain drives. They need to score TDs vs FGs when they have the chance.

I just don't see it happening. What I Do hope is that IF they lose they do so respectably and in a close hard fought game. I think the Rams CAN be very dangerous if they play that way coming back out of the bye. If they are 2-3 that is about what I expected and hoped with wins over two quality teams. To go in 3-2 is a HUGE difference.

Like I said, I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer but I've seen the Rams do this too many times including the Skins game they laid an egg on, and a Steelers game begging for them to take late.

A few last things: the screens will work vs GB, If Cook doesn't deliver something in this game I'm all for benching him or seriously reducing his PT and going with Harkey, Kendricks, or more 1 TE sets.

I really think we will know a lot more about what Rams team we may have for the season in this game. A win vs GB going into the bye week at 3-2 through a pretty tough starting schedule would really impress me. Finally, I don't think AO comes back. I've had a similiar injury and know that he is a stud athlete with the best Docs and Rehab people but this type of injury is really more of a 4- 6 month injury. He may come back but I just can't see having the explosiveness and speed he had prior to the injury.

Go Rams!

 

[TheBunk]

Pass rush and running game are absolutely essential in order to stand a chance in this game. Its supposed to be the two facets we excel at so if we're on point we have a shot.

 

[Robocop]

My bad, didn't know that rule. Just excited.

yea Prime was a bit harsh but you're new no biggie, but i liked that forum link

 

[RamsSince1969]

Wait did I actually read one idiot say that the Packers would be ignored by the media and that 2 other teams would be the media darling?



Wow not sure what rock this individual is living under to not know that the Packers are the NFL's media darling. The rest is the normal mix I'd expect to see. A bunch thinking they'll beat us senseless and win by 14+. Some acknowledging we have some skilled players and could make this a game. The comments on Fisher could come from The Rams or Titans message boards

My only wish is that we keep this competitive from start to finish then see the reaction of the people who say we have no chance. They'll most likely offer excuses instead of giving out any credit. I look forward to this game. While there are no moral victories as a fan I want a competitive game that Rams fans can be happy with. We don't need to get our butts handed to us and be embarrassed. Some ball control with Gurley from the get go, no bad 1st half. Pressure Rodgers and don't make stupid penalties on defense.

And it seems you can't even for a split second give up on guys running routes or AR will somehow zing it in there for a long gain. But more than that, how about the times he doesn't have to zing it because there is a receiver that is so wide open, its completely ridiculous! Our secondary have to let AR have the running yards and make him work for the passing yards. It's when the secondary runs up to prevent the run, the receivers get wide open. I hope we are the team to figure it out and slow him down where they score less than say 22 to 25 points.

 

[Dodgersrf]

Its going to be a tough game.
Everyone wants to talk about AR, but don't sleep on Lacy either. He's no slouch.

We can beat the Pac, though. Their oline is going to be abused. AR will too if he doesn't get the ball out in less than 2 seconds.
Rattling AR is key. We can't let him get comfortable or he'll pick us apart. He's the best QB in the game imo.

 

[jrry32]

Its going to be a tough game.
Everyone wants to talk about AR, but don't sleep on Lacy either. He's no slouch.

We can beat the Pac, though. Their oline is going to be abused. AR will too if he doesn't get the ball out in less than 2 seconds.
Rattling AR is key. We can't let him get comfortable or he'll pick us apart. He's the best QB in the game imo.

Lacy reminds me so much of Jerome Bettis. He's got that out of shape look with a gut that makes you think the guy should be a slug out there...then you watch him and the guy has great feet and impressive burst/explosiveness.

 

[Prime Time]

Thanks for the effort PT.
No interest in taking on that task here.
Maybe when I retire

Beat you to it. :banana:

yea Prime was a bit harsh but you're new no biggie, but i liked that forum link

My apologies to all. Had a bad start to a real bad day.

https://www.packerforum.com/threads/official-packers-vs-rams-thread.62699/

Official Packers vs Rams thread

That D line tho...
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On the bright side of "that D line," I do feel better about Rodgers eluding tubbies than linebackers Aaron Donald is a manimal though. Glad it's in Lambeau!
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our offensive line better be buckled up and ready to go. the middle is usually pretty stout, i think they were all a bit off today, but especially those tackles. They are a pretty weak link in an otherwise strong offense.
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http://athlonsports.com/nfl/st-louis-rams-2015-team-preview-and-prediction

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/pos...stic-offense-do-enough-to-knock-off-cardinals
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The Rams will be coming in with Gregg Williams, he of New Orleans "Bountygate" infamy, as their defensive coordinator.

Best be watching for some extracurricular activity about Aaron Rodgers.
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While ours has been great thus far the Rams boast what I would call the best Dline in the league
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I think our Dline has been playing great, it's our offensive tackles i'm worried about because the Rams line is no joke. I think better than any we've faced so far.
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The Rams defensive line is a fantastic unit and with the Packers having troubles at both tackle positions I´m worried about the pass protection. The offense should be able to get some favourable matchups with either Cobb or Montgomery vs. Lamarcus Joyner in the slot or Richard Rodgers at TE being covered by their linebackers (especially as Alec Ogletree won´t be able to play this week).

That should allow Rodgers to throw fast, short passes and help out the offensive line protecting him.
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Last week Rodgers kept them guessing with his snap count and catching them and mostly had the guessing all game. Bahk is not strong enough and Barclay just can't move, and when he has to he's easy to knock off balance.

If the middle of our line can hold up well, they can cover their weakness. If they're getting some push in the middle, Rodgers is in for a long day and our offense is going to sputter.
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The interior of the offensive line has been excellent in those two games but Rodgers mobility mostly bailed out the tackles. In addition the Rams defensive line is probably the best we´ll face all season.
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I fully expect the Packers to win the game vs. the Rams as well. That doesn´t mean I´m not worried about Aaron Donald and Robert Quinn rushing Rodgers.
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We'll win. Foles is a statue in the pocket, I see us sacking him 4-5 times and causing a turnover or two.

Take the KC, Seattle and SF game, and I think this Rams game falls in between those somewhere in terms of us winning and margin etc.
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I'll tell you what ( Hank Hill voice) if the I line doesn't block Rodgers will be running for his life the entire game. Also must throw some screens and draws in the game plan. Packers win 24-14 but Rodgers gets sacked 5 times . The combo of Lacy and Starks will be the factor of the game.
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You realize that our offensive line has only given up six total sacks through the first four games, right?

The Rams have a great defense, but they are ranked 26th in the league in run defense.
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SF's defense got to Rodgers all game. St.Louis has the best front 4 in the league. Packers were very effective against KC's pass rush with the quick passes, and with a good dose of Lacy and Starks, I am fairly confident we'll put points up on the board.

Unlike SF however, St. Louis does have an offense. Don't forget that Todd Gurley had a breakout game last Sunday as he literally ran over Arizona. Nick Foles is not a great QB and certainly not mobile, but he can throw. Foles had his best game of the season against the Cardinals. Packer run defense has been very good the last 2 weeks. Now they have to do the same against Gurley.

Packers 27-20.
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I'm a Rams fan come to chat. You guys look like fans that aren't new to winning and are self-assured enough to talk football keeping it real. Not like Cards fans. They were delusional after just 3 wins against bad teams. They actually called the Rams D line OK and secondary terrible. Probably not saying that so much now.

The Rams do indeed sport the best D line in the NFL and I say that with all humbleness. Donald is, and I kid you not, as good as J.J. Watt. Last season's DFROY and Pro Bowler.

Quinn is a monster with Stretch Armstrong moves. We are counting him to take advantage of GB weakness in the tackles. We'll see.
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Tree was killing teams and leading the NFL in tackles last I checked. Rams have depth there and talent, nut not like Tree.

Joyner is OK. The rest of the secondary have pretty solid skills with Jenkins being amazing and the McSafties willing to lay out anyone that comes near them.
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Foles is very good moving in the pocket. I get that he has a reputation, but it ain't so Vrill. 6 sacks. 1.25 per game. With an o-line with 2 rookies and 1 player in the same position as last season. Dude has been solid.

Seattle? We beat them too. 34-31 and offensive scoring of 27-18. Niners? They retired and are horrible. KC compared to the Rams? Not even close. We can't say we are in the GB league right now and we will be in your house, but the Rams D is off the charts and their O is emerging with Gurley having his first start, 161 combined yards, and Quick yet to play a full game.
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Rams play bend but don't break defense. If you look at their rankings, you will not grasp the real picture. You can take small gains all day long. Lots of yards. Lots of plays. Then try to score in the redzone. It's tough. 5 TDs all season against their D.

By the way, the Rams have also taken 6 sacks all season. They handed out 17.
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Can you stop Gurley? No one knows. That was his first start and he grabbed 161 combined yards, almost all of them in the second half. I say this quietly and with all respect, but dude looks like he could be amazing. Like monster amazing.
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So here's a Rams' Fan perspective if you want it:

I am a rabid fan. And that is very hard to be with the Rams. I think there might be 12 of us . I go to all open training camps, sit with very knowledgeable people, and even watch some closed practices from a secret spot. We KNEW the Rams would have a bumpy opening. I think it's fair to say, no one thought the Rams were going to be great in the first 5 games. 2-3 or 3-2 against our very challenging opening schedule was the best I could hope for.

Why? We have a new QB, OC, new O scheme, new o line with 2 rookies and only 1 player in the same starting position, and we were missing Gurley, Mason, and Quick. You can't beat NFL teams with that, but you CAN anticipate.

Defense:

They are badass with a capital BADASS. Forget the stats, the Rams just hound teams and QBs. It's nonstop. Their nickname is Mob Squad, and they earn it every week.

So, why do they not rank? Because the stats don't consider strategy, plain and simple. Rams D has two jobs and they aremake the opposing team throw and run for short gains all game long and stop them in the redzone. Want yards between the 20's? Have at them, we will give you more. Lots and lots of yards. Want a TD in the redzone? Better pull out your teeth pulling pliers. They are the best RZ defense around.

IMHO they do this for two reasons. When a team has to make 80 plays a game, every one is a TO opportunity. We will strip, slap, pull, and INT attempt every play.

The second is they bank on redzone D for a lesser challenge for our O. Keep the score low. Seahawks scored, but they didn't do it with their O. They scored 18 with their O. Steelers, with Big Ben, Brown, and Bell, were held to 12. Cardinals did well as an undefeated team and the most prolific scorers in the NFL this season, but it was 1 TD and then all field goals. The stats of their O that we destroyed are many. Still, we struggled.

Special Teams:

The Rams boast an outstanding ST. No one has kicked a punt to TA that I remember since game one when he broke off a TD. They just surrender yards in short punts to keep the ball out of his hands. You MUST be SURE of your ST to punt to him.

I'm hoping they come up with a way to stop the short punts. We need TA this week.

No ST this season hasn't looked bad against the Rams. Cardinals Peterson? Stripped on the first KO return for a Rams TO and TD within 2 minutes of the game starting.

Our Field Goal kicker will kick from the 70 if needed to win, I kid you not, dude is called Greg the Leg for a reason. He practices from the 65.

Our Punter, if not the best in the NFL...na...he is. He almost had a 50 yard average against the Cards and he is a former QB who has missed on 1 trick play in his NFL career.

Offense:

This is where it gets tricky. everything we thought and hoped for is emerging after 3 seasons. Austin is just amazing. His title is WR, but forget that. If he gets the ball, he will eel his way to a big gain every time.

Gurley is unknown. We loved his first start, but it was his first start. 161 combined yards.

Mason and Cunningham are both very good at both the run and receiving. Cunningham is the better receiver.

Britt can be lights out. Quick may be making his first start since his major injury and he can also lights out. They are both very tall, very physical receivers who will fight for the ball.

Foles is probably going to have his best season ever when it all comes together and that's saying a lot. He already holds a fantastic W/L record the last 2 seasons, NFL best ever TD/INT ratio for a season, and a pro bowl with pro bowl offensive MVP. Now he is in the perfect place with the perfect targets. He will air it out to Britt/Austin/Quick and these guys will catch it. It's been a loooooooong time since we've had that.

Weaknesses:

The o line. They get better every week but it's a rebuild.

TE's. Cook could be a massive star, but he drops every damned must catch ball. Kendricks is good bad has been dropping too. Harkey will mess up anyone in front of him but is a third TE, mostly used for blocking schemes, and rarely pass catching.

I hope I added to the conversation and thanks for having me. The best Rams site for info is Rams On Demand Com.
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Always good to hear from other fans.

Our Tackles are going to have to play much better then Sunday or Rodgers is going to be running for his life. That said our guard tandem may be the best around so Rodgers tends to have room to step up and move around.

The big mismatch for us is Cobb in the slot. If you guys can't get to Rodgers I'm not seeing a way for you guys to slow him down. Maybe I'm wrong though. Some hometown info on their secondary would be nice.

One more thing though. Bend but don't break and banking INTs or TOs is bad idea against Rodgers and the Packers. This is a team that simply doesn't turn the ball over and if your going to let Rodgers March up n down the field on ya he WILL make you pay..... At times the man really does seem like he's strait out of a video game...... and one with a cheat code enabled. The man's that good when he's on his game
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Cobb was my best receiver in FF last season and I traded for him. I love that dude.

Don't count your guard chickens before they've hatched. The Rams are a nightmare for guards, even really good ones. We all know Donald is Donald, and he's just not stoppable, like Rodgers, but the entire line would start anywhere, game one. If GB can hold them up, good on you. Washington did, of all teams :eek:, but they had to use 3 TE sets to do it. And I think the Rams learned a hard lesson that day.

The secondary? We lost Gaines for the season and now Tree. Those are huge for us. J Jenkins is among the NFL elite. He WILL shut down any receiver, and I mean ANY receiver, IF he makes no bonehead reads. It's his one big issue, but not at all this season so far. The rest are damn good. Under rated because they don't play on the line and play a bend but don't break D. Solid to the core and willing physical hitters. Huge hitters and turnover players.

The key for them is this...IF they ballhawk, they will get owned, and they love to ballhawk. PLAY YOUR MAN and take what you are given Rams! This is NOT a day to play for the turnover, it's the day to shut down the receivers and let the rush worry about TOs.

Rodgers is one of a kind. There is no other. And at home? Please. HOF as if that needed saying.

Can the Rams play bend but don't break with him? I think they can. Call me crazy. Call me Homer. I'm used to it, but I will bet they can hold even the best QB in the NFL to almost all FGs. The trick for GB is DO NOT enter the RZ. It's a desert in there. You don't want to get sucked up into the mothership and anal probed.

If Rodgers turns it over, I'm thinking more strip sacks than INTs. But if the Rams break his consecutive record at home INT record, I will not be surprised at all. This kind of pressure has it's effects.

Lacey worries me more. The Rams have had problems with the running game at times and dude is a hard tackle. With Tree in I would worry less, but he isn't.

I think we all know the consensus will be a GB win. Pretty handily. And I'm not even counting on a win, but I will try to sell you that it is indeed possible. This is a team with many many weapons and none of them get their due.
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Don't under sell our guards. Donalds great but this is a similar argument I've heard from lions fans over the years regarding Suh and Fairley getting to Rodgers l. Sitton is the best guard in the league and Lang is a borderline pro bowler himself with Lynsley also being great at Center. I'm not sayin it will be one sided. But I don't expect either side to dominate.

But Jenkins as elite? I don't know. I'd have to disagree. Good yes but not elite. Still he's an outside CB isn't he? I still don't see any that can slow either Cobb or Montgomery in the slot.

Lacey is defiantly someone to worry about this game. He's getting healthy and should expect a big workload to slow down the pass rush
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Cameron Lynch is most likely an upgrade over Ogletree in pass coverage but he´s not as good defending the run or rushing the passer. The Rams secondary is average at best and Joyner is a below-average starter that will be exploited by Cobb without any safety help.

I agree that the Rams defensive line is better than the Seahawks or Chiefs one but it´s pretty close though.

The Rams defense ranked 12th in TDs allowed in the red zone and 17th in points allowed after week 3. They will probably have improved their ranking after the Cardinals game but it´s far from impossible to score against them inside the 20.

The Seahawks offense hasn´t been able to score a ton of points this season so far and the Cardinals offense hugley benefitted from playing terrible teams. The Rams defense did an impressive job vs. the Steelers even before Roethlisberger was injured, but trust me you haven´t faced an offense like the Packers one so far, especially at Lambeau Field.

The Rams special teams have been above average so far but aside of the punt returned by Austin vs. the Seahawks haven´t had any explosive plays anymore. Teams have continued punting to Austin with him averaging 10.5 yards on those returns with two fair catches.

FWIW it´s worth it was rookie David Johnson fumbling on the Cardinals kickoff to start the season.

Zuerlein hasn´t been that great kicking outdoors where he has only made 71.9% of his field goals during his career though. Hekker is an above average punter but once again he´s not the best in the league.

Austin is a big play threat but he´s only averaging 49.6 yards per game for his career. Gurley seems like the real deal but Mason and Cunningham don´t put any fear into opposing defenses (they´re averaging a combined 2.6 yards per carry this season). The Rams receiving corps is average at best. Foles is an average QB as well who will never even come to close to repeating his performance in 2013.

I´m quite sure Sitton will be able to handle Brockers one-on-one. This means Linsley and Lang will double team Donald on every single snap. There´s no doubt in my mind that Donald is an All-Pro but trust me that he hasn´t faced a center-guard tandem nearly as good as Lang and Linsley so far this season.

The Rams have allowed an average of 4.54 points on drives in the red zone with five TDs and eight FGs in 13 drives. While that is once again above average teams have been able to score on them.

I wouldn´t rely on Rodgers turning the ball over as he hasn´t thrown a single interception at Lambeau Field since late in the 2012 (!!!) season.

Overall, the Rams are a talented team with an exceptional defensive line and mostly average players at all other positions. The Packers are a superior team and should win this game by more than an score.
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I just watched the second half of the Rams-Cardinals game and it was definitely a good one. Give credit to the Rams but it's not like the Cardinals were dominated or weren't in a position to win. Rams definitely got away with a fumble that should have been Cardinals first-and-goal, and on the Cardinals' last series they were driving but Palmer missed a couple of fairly open receivers on 3rd and 4th downs to end the drive.

Rams pass rush was definitely impressive, but Palmer wasn't overwhelmed. He did have time. I also thought Foles was very good too. Made some very fine passes. He'll have to play like that for the Rams to have a chance next Sunday. Rams D looks to have great pursuit, but running it right down their throat might be more effective that trying to go outside.
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The only thing the Rams have on their entire team that even halfway scares me is their DL. However, Rodgers gets rid of the ball so damn fast that it will limit what the Rams pass rush does. As far as pass rush goes, the Chiefs scared me more than the Rams do. I will say that 3-4 defenses with a pass rush seem to give us more problems than a pass rushing 4-3 front does under Rodgers.

Teams like SF and KC always tend to get to Rodgers, and while we have lost to Seattle before this year, they didn't get to Rodgers as many times as SF did.

Hell, Denver's pass rush scares me more than the Rams.

For whatever reason, 3-4 defenses get to Rodgers more than 4-3 D's do. Its always been that way.

But anyway, our offense is frustrating to defend. You can't be overly aggressive against us, especially at Lambeau. Because Rodgers will play a game within a game at the LOS with pre snap hard counts. He'll be trying to draw the Rams DL offsides the entire game and that's when our WR's go deep for free plays.

Our entire O are all on the same page with this, our WR's constantly look down the LOS and if someone jumps offsides, Rodgers yells GO and everyone goes deep. Rodgers has absolutely destroyed defenses at Lambeau by doing this. Its exactly why fronts have to be passive while playing us at Lambeau.
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We all know a lot of that has to do with Rodgers mobility. Our tackles arnt very strong ... Watch the film . Not knocking them but stating facts.
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I think Rams are a bit too over confident coming off that win against the Cardinals. But they are forgetting they are a team that could easily be 0-4.
They barely beat a seahawks team that is not very good by some stupid decisions on their coaching staff.

They lost to the Redskins and only put up 6 points at home against the Steelers, and couldn't beat a team with out Rothlisberger and a backup who doesn't even prepare for games.

Against the Cards they got bailed out of those fumbles by the refs and the Cards still had a chance to go down the field at the end.

I'm by no means saying this team is a pushover, and will agree that they have a solid defense. But it's a team that is trying to find its identity. I might be biased being a Packers fan, but I think the Rams are going to be getting a rude awakening. Our defense will hold them and we all know what Rodgers can do at home. I think we win 27-17 and that's them scoring on garbage time.
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Thanks for providing us with your perspectives Brian. 95% of the folks on this forum are pretty level headed so you'll get some good back-and-forth. I think that captainWIMM did his usual good job analyzing things.

One part that wasn't addressed much overall was your advice about punting to Austin. I hear you and maybe things will change now that we have a new ST coach this year, but in general McCarthy has never shied away from punting to the best. When Devin Hester was the best and we played him twice per year, we always punted to him and dared him to beat us. It never worked for the Bears. Our STs haven't been a brightspot yet this season, but don't expect us to play scared at home.

I really believe that this will be a classic matchup of two teams with good RBs keeping the ball on the ground. Lacy and Starks will square off against Gurley with Fowles and Rodgers doing what they need to keeping defenses honest through the air.
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Another Ram fan invading your "cheese factory" to make you worry for the rest of the week.

I'm excited about this game. And allow me to go full-bore homer for a second by saying I think this matchup is a preview to the NFC Championship game. There, I said it, got it out of the way.

As far as this week's game goes, I don't think any Rams fan had it wrote down as a W for our team when we saw it on the schedule. We know the Packers have the best QB in the league, very solid WRs even before the injuries, stout RBs, and a decent D. I even pick Crosby as my FF K every year. The Packers were my Super Bowl pick last year and again this year. No doubt, your team is elite in many areas and not overly weak anywhere. With that said, expect to be punched in the mouth this week. The Rams always come for a fight.

They often shoot themselves in the foot with dropped passes, stupid penalties, and plain old bad luck dished out by the football gods but they do come to play old-school football. Make sure the ice-makers around Lambeau are well stocked up this week. Our D is indeed a bend-don't-break by design and it is maddening to me. I suppose the coaches know a lot more than my arm-chair GM butt and have chosen this style to cover some weakness in personnel or to accentuate strengths in other personnel but it drives this fan crazy. And it might backfire against Rodgers.

The key matchup in this game is your Aaron against our Aaron. I saw Rodgers do his "Fran Tarkenton" act last week a couple of times where he twirls seemingly to exit the pocket to escape the rush just to twirl right back into a new pocket and fire a bullet. I think that particular move won't work this week because Donald will be getting enough push to occupy that new pocket. Of course, Rodgers is not a one-trick pony and will find a way to find his WRs.

Not to diss your RBs but they don't concern me no more than any other RB our D faces because we tend to shut all RBs down 3 out of 4 carries just to let them bust a 25 yard gallop on us. You don't have to be an elite RB in the NFL to do this so I don't care if we are facing Lynch, Peterson, Lacy, etc. it's all the same. I do hate that you deploy the FB Kuhn so well. I love FB play and wish we had one.

Laying all analysis aside, the Rams usually play their best ball against good teams they are not supposed to beat and lay eggs against teams like Washington so I expect a hard-fought game this week. I'm just glad it's early October going into Lambeau instead of dead of winter.

One caveat that no one here seems to be mentioning is TODD GURLEY. I know that he is a rookie. I know that he has had ONE great half of football in the NFL. I know that many would say that he is not proven and it's all the Rams have on their O. But, I'll venture to say he changes everything with the Rams O. I think you have one quarter of tape to study on the Rams' O.

It is virtually brand new starting this week. Gurley is a special talent. He is going to live up to all the hype. He changes everything when it comes to the Rams' offensive attack. As a D, you will have to focus on him and that of course changes everything. It's just a little thing that'll put a little doubt in your confidence.:whistling:

Here's to a good game come Sunday! Let's hope the Refs leave it to the players to decide and no injuries!
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The Rams allowed 2 offensive TDs between Seattle, Pittsburgh, and Arizona. Two. That's pretty good, yes?

Washington was a nightmare but the rest of the games speak for themselves.

Rams create TOs, they don't wait for them. They put their helmets on balls. They pull the balls out. They knock a guy senseless so he coughs it up. We aren't counting on Rodgers, we're counting on the Rams defense.

"Overall, the Rams are a talented team with an exceptional defensive line and mostly average players at all other positions."

I hear that every week. And every week fans come back and tell me they were mistaken. Rams are deep in offensive talent and it's not even all on the field yet. I get it, stats don't agree, W/L doesn't agree, but this isn't last season's offense. If you think Foles, Austin, Jenkins, and Gurley are average, you may have an unrealistic standard.:whistling:
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I hope you GB fans don't think I'm being over confident. I know who the Rams are and I'm just giving my opinion from what I saw every snap from TC day one until now. Rams scare me every game. It's been a long long rebuild with no QB and many other issues.

However, this is the endgame. Everything the Rams needed has been addressed. They won't be consistent early this season, but we do have great hopes after the bye.

You chose to pick anything that would make the Rams look lucky in those games. Rams could easily be 4-0 or 3-1 also. We also had bad calls and bad breaks. We were playing without RB1, RB2, WR1, in a new scheme with a new QB and o-line. If you base this game off those games, it will be a mistake. This team isn't those teams.

We barely beat the Hawks because we let them in the game with mistakes like a Pead fumble on his single carry who is now off the team. They scored 18 on us offensively.

We held the Steelers WITH Big Ben for most of the game to 9 points until the closing minutes. We had 6. It was our game to lose and we did. I would play them this week with Big Ben and bet the house.

"it's a team that is trying to find its identity."

Yes, exactly. And that's hard to do when your key players aren't playing.

Your prediction is a fair and reasonable one at this point in the season. I won't be surprised if it's a lot closer than you think though. You haven't seen this O with Gurley and Quick.
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Yep! This could be a brawl of the bulldozers. Of course, Lacey is a known commodity and Gurley isn't, but his potential is through the roof. Our o-line was hand selected to be road graders but it hasn't shown a lot until the second half against Cards. They are just a massive monster sized group of linemen, but I think the emphasis has been on pass protection so far with Foles in and Gurley out.

I hope they punt to TA. If he fails to do anything, so be it. The kid is amazing.

Fisher will draft for ST. He puts as much into ST as defense and he's pretty good at it. If you can't play ST on the Rams, unless you are a highly valued skill player or lineman, you have no job.

Green Bay shouldn't be scared of anyone anywhere. That doesn't mean the games don't have to be played. :tup:
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My goodness. After reading this, I feel it's fruitless for us to show up and play this game. We have no chance to win.
Woe is us!

Ok, I'm done with my pity party.

We're 4-0, have one of the best trigger men in the history of this planet and right now, I think WE are the baddest mothers in the valley. We'll win this game by more than a TD against a very respectable foe.
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Sounds like you know your Rams buddy!!!! I was trying to get a few to answer some questions and talk over here:
http://ramsondemand.com/threads/what-packers-fans-are-saying.40519/#post-640494
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Rams have sure been a bafflement to me. Seems like what it is, is that they have a knack for beating on divisional opponents but then everyone else rolls on em.

I do think Foles is a better QB than Bradford, Hill, and whoever else has gone through that door, and they do have a running game. So far though our D has held up against that.

I won't predict an outcome but one thing to know about our O, you don't want to have it go bend but don't break on it on opposing defenses because we got redzone weapons. James Jones for one and Richard Rodgers the other.
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On another sports forum I read some posts that were made by Ram fans and they think they will beat the Pack at Lambeau and they site beating Arizona in Arizona. They want back to back victories against undefeated teams. But one Ram fan's post made me laugh, he said, "We have NO chance of beating the Packers unless Rodgers dies before Sunday." LOL
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I think their Dline is the best one yet. It remains to be seen how our offense will try and combat that, but I do not prefer to see that approach they took for part of last game. I know the 49er's have a pretty good defense too, but that was a little less than adequate against a very strong Rams DL.

I think heat, short week, etc had a little bit to do with it, but also I think both tackles are weak on our line. Barclay because he can't move and Bahkt because he's weak relatively speaking. Our offense needs to adjust for that. If they do protect well, an early lead could blow this game open. But i'm not expecting that.
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Nothing's a gimme, but realize that the Packers' interior is outstanding: Sitton is Pro-bowl at RG, Linsley at C was a serious contender for ROY and looks even better in his 2nd year, and TJ Lang is very solid at LG. As a unit they are the anchor of this OL and they have shown that they can handle the best of them on the other side of the ball.

 

[RamWoodie]

Let's be up front with this! The Packers are favored because they have Rodgers and a veteran team for the most part...that's why they have 9.5 before the game starts.

Now...let's look at some real facts.

1, The Rams have defeated 2 playoff teams in the four games they have played. That *should* wake some those Packer Posters up, but they're drinking their own brand of kool-aid. If they think they struggled against SF...wait until Sunday...and I realize their at home, but this is a young Ram team...and they are going to play hard! The question is will they make key mistakes?

2. Ball control is they key to winning on the road. The Ram offense has to come alive FOR THE WHOLE GAME...they can't be waiting until halftime adjustments to be in this game. They have to be effective early running and passing.

3. The Packer defense is vulnerable! You're at home with an opposing QB that's stinking it up and you were in danger of losing this game.

4. Keep thinking Foles isn't a good QB...I like that. He's not Aaron Rodgers...but he's smart, proficient, and gutsy.

5. Keep thinking Gurley and TA are your only threats...

I like the Rams in this game...especially if they score the first TD. I think the intangibles belong to the Rams!

If you can sack Russel Wilson 6 times and Carson Palmer 4 times...you can get to Rodgers!

 

[jrry32]

Didn't Michael Brockers dominate T.J. Lang a couple years ago when we played GB?

 

[CodeMonkey]

I go to all open training camps, sit with very knowledgeable people, and even watch some closed practices from a secret spot.

I see you @RamzFanz

Another Ram fan invading your "cheese factory" to make you worry for the rest of the week.

Is this another member?

 

[Mikey Ram]

I traveled from Alaska to St, Louis for a Rams/Packers game in 2003..Granted, the Packers fans were on Rams soil, but they were very cool and a gas to hang with...A little friendly trash talk, dinner @ Jake's Steaks (not by invitation, we just happened to both be there) and several rounds bought by the gracious losers at the hotel bar...All in all, at least in my only encounter with them, I found the Packers fans (they travel very well, btw) were knowledgeable and a good group...That was then, this is now...At Lambeau, not the Dome...GO RAMS, club them like they are a bunch of baby harp seals...(It's humor, ASPCA !!!)...

 

[Loyal]

I think we are a good team. The Gurley and Austin duo is going to kill opposing defenses, like it did the 2nd half vs Arizona...We need Harkey out there leading Gurley through the first level, which if Gurley gets to go one one one with LB's consistently, he will have a great day...and so will the Rams. Controlling the ball early and scoring TD's more often than FG's, and we can beat this team. I hope our guys are taking to heart all this Green Bay superiority cr@p, we need to bludgeon this team.

 

[RamzFanz]

I see you @RamzFanz



Is this another member?

It's Husker! I'm shocked at how polite he's being!:eek:

 

[RamzFanz]

I think we are a good team. The Gurley and Austin duo is going to kill opposing defenses, like it did the 2nd half vs Arizona...We need Harkey out there leading Gurley through the first level, which if Gurley gets to go one one one with LB's consistently, he will have a great day...and so will the Rams. Controlling the ball early and scoring TD's more often than FG's, and we can beat this team. I hope our guys are taking to heart all this Green Bay superiority cr@p, we need to bludgeon this team.

You know, I'm on the FB bandwagon most times. Definitely with Mason and Cunningham, but he might just slow Gurley down. Dude has vision and change of direction and gets damn small when he needs to (college days). I would help the line block but wait to see if Gurley actually needs a lead blocker.

 

[JackKirby]

Anyone know why the Rams/Packers game is on CBS this Sunday?

 

[Mojo Ram]

AZ put up 450 yards on the Rams today. 0-3 turnover differential is what kept that score close.

Well that and the fact that the Rams are now ranked 4th in the NFL in red zone defense(TD's).
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-red-zone-scoring-pct

 

[Rainram]

Lacy reminds me so much of Jerome Bettis. He's got that out of shape look with a gut that makes you think the guy should be a slug out there...then you watch him and the guy has great feet and impressive burst/explosiveness.

I'll admit I was wrong on him coming out. I thought there was a lot more Ron Dayne than Jerome Bettis in him.

 

[Picked4td]

I'll gladly be taking that moneyline on sunday and hopefully at 6:30 ill be walking into work with all my Rams gear on talking shit non-stop to my packer fan boss. Got a feeling this is gonna be a real good day :yess: