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Another fanbase that has given up. Notice that the author of this article has the 49ers favored on the road against the Rams. It's the other way around dummy.
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http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/10...francisco-road-dog-at-st-louis-for-first-time
49ers-Rams odds: San Francisco road dog at St. Louis for first time since 2010
By David Fucillo @NinersNation
The 49ers are 7.5-point underdog heading into St. Louis for Week 8. We break down an early look at the matchup.
The San Francisco 49ers travel to face the St. Louis Rams in Week 8, and the 49ers have opened as a 7.5-point favorite. This actually marks the first time since 2010 that the Rams have been favored against the 49ers. In the last four games in St. Louis, the 49ers were favored by 3.5 (2014), 3.5 (2013), 7.0 (2012), 12.5 (2011). In case you're wondering, the 49ers were 3-1 SU in those games, and 2-2 ATS. You can actually get a 9-point spread on a couple websites tracked by OddsShark.
The Rams enter this game sitting at 3-3, one game back of the Arizona Cardinals (playing tonight) in the NFC West. The Rams beat the Cleveland Browns 24-6, thanks to big efforts from their defense and Todd Gurley. They jumped out on top quickly, with Rodney McLeod returning a fumble 20 yards for a touchdown. They would go on to recover four Browns fumbles.
That turned it into the Todd Gurley show. Gurley rushed 19 times for 128 yards, and scored two touchdowns. The passing game was pretty meh, with Nick Foles completing 15 of 23 passes for 163 yards. Foles avoided turnovers, while Jared Cook had one fumble.
The Rams host a 49ers squad that is struggling to do much of anything. The 49ers beat the Baltimore Ravens two weeks ago, but then got thumped by the Seattle Seahawks, and are now 2-5. The team is struggling to do much of anything.
The offense is in shambles when they face a decent defense, with Colin Kaepernick unable to get anything going. Part of that is his own inconsistencies, and part of that is the ugly right side of the offensive line. The Rams strong front seven could have a field day against this offensive line.
On the other side of the ball, the 49ers defense can't get a consistent pass rush, and struggled to make basic tackles against the Seahawks. Marshawn Lynch rushed 27 times for 122 yards. In four games, Todd Gurley has 442 rushing yards, averaging 6.0 yards per carry. And in the first of those four games, he had six rushes for nine yards. In the three games since, he is averaging 144 yards a game. I do like the 49ers matchup against Nick Foles, but I am not excited seeing the 49ers face Todd Gurley.
I'll take a closer look at the line as the week moves along, but my early choice would be staying away from the 49ers in general. It is tempting to fade them each week, but divisional games are always tough to figure out. That Rams defense and the Todd Gurley factor make them tempting, even at 7.5 points. But this is a Jeff Fisher team. As bad as the 49ers have been, Fisher can find ways to yack this up.
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Wait... what?
"and the 49ers have opened as a 7.5-point favorite. "
really? i’m confused
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I hope the 49ers lose. They need to tank for a high draft pick. Mediocre levels of losing will not work.
This has been a really weird year. First time in NFL history to have five teams with a 6-0 record.
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Only 7.5?
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http://www.scout.com/nfl/49ers/forums/1922-49ers-hardcore/14218237-how-bad-are-the-2015-49ers
HOW BAD ARE THE 2015 49ERS?
After watching most of the debacle on Thursday night. Was curious how inept the 2015 49ers really are.
Offensive categories which they are DEAD LAST in the NFL:
-yards per game: 295
-yards per play: 5.0
-points per game: 14.7
-total points (among teams that have played 7 games): 103
***note: the three teams currently behind SF in points scored (Dallas, Minnesota, and St. Louis have only played 5 games versus SF's 7 games)
Defensive ranking in the NFL:
30th in yards allowed in NFL (406 yds/game)
30th (tied) in yards per play allowed at 6.1
30th in passing yards allowed (293 yds/game)
30th in completion percentage allowed (70.1%)
25th in QB rating allowed (100.1)
32nd in pass plays over 25 yds allowed (28)
32nd (tied) in pass plays over 40yds allowed (7)
FWIW the rush defense and rush offense is ranked right around the middle of the pack in most categories.
Will this team match the Erickson team that went 2-14? Not sure, but it may be just a bad. There are games against Detroit, Cleveland, and Chicago on the horizon. However, they are all on the road. Chicago has Fangio, Detroit has potential to present a difficult pass offense to defend, Cleveland has performed better than expected on offense and are currently 9th in the NFL in pass offense. IMO 2-14 is still in play.
Not a team completely devoid of talent, it is just devoid of coaching talent.
Big changes coming this offseason! Oh wait, forgot who the owner is.....nevermind. More cost-savings coming next year.....maybe player coaches in coaching and coordinator roles.
Hey York......we're holding you accountable.
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They're quite bad. They may not be devoid of talent, but they're missing talent in some key places.
The complete disintegration of the offensive line over the past few years is the primary culprit in the offense getting worse and worse--it inhibits the passing game and running game. It really almost doesn't matter who the quarterback or running back are if the offensive line is terrible. Someone like Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady might find a way to eke out some productivity, but they're top-five quarterbacks in NFL history. In the vast majority of cases, nothing much is going to get done with this type of offensive line except against teams who don't have the pass rush to exploit it.
With Aldon Smith gone and Ahmed Brooks losing pass rush effectiveness over the past couple of seasons, the 49ers also don't have the ability to force opposing quarterbacks into hurried throws or bad reads. Aaron Lynch isn't enough, especially when he's the only threat. Again, it almost doesn't matter what kind of talent the 49ers have on the defensive backend (and I think the secondary is pretty decent) if quarterbacks have all the time in the world to wait for receivers to uncover.
The coaching staff probably isn't great, but it's not like they have a championship contender in terms of talent. They might have more talent than you might expect from a 2-5 team, but where the 49ers are deficient matters more, right now, than where they have talent. If they had their 2011 -12 offensive line and their 2011-12 pass rush, in addition to the other players they have on the current roster, they'd still be contenders, IMO.
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This may be my bias opinion but I feel like the roster isn't that bad. I feel like the current OL isn't as bad as they are. I feel like the had some type of competency. Also, without Gore, the blitz protection may have fallen off a bit. Not saying Gore would have solved all the problems but maybe some of it. Also feel like Gore helped CK with recognizing things a defense may be doing. I am purely speculating. I really wanted to see Gore back, still a bit sore.
In other words, I feel it is the coaching and a lack of experience.
The OL shouldn't be this bad. I remember The Colt's Superbowl year, they didn't have a player who was drafted higher than the 3rd round. I want to say 5th but I think it is the 3rd. Payton Manning had a lot to do with the success, perhaps not a good comparison but the only example I had handy!
I believe Erickson's 2 win season were 2 OT wins if my shaky memory remembers correctly!
Guys, we are all frustrated but I feel this will turn around. 11-5!!!
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Mostly pride killed this team (Jed York). I knew the defense was bad, but I didn't know they were that bad. Of course the OL is one of the worst in the league (can't run or pass block). Looks to me like a 4 or 6 win season. 49ers really should be 3-4 right now, but our defense made sure we wouldn't get that road win against the Giants.
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http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/183629-san-francisco-49ers-st-louis-rams-pregame/
SAN FRANCISCO 49ers vs ST LOUIS RAMS- pregame
lambs favored by 7.5
Gurley looks like a stud.
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17-9 Rams
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Sounds about right. If we are going to lose, I would prefer to get embarrassed so Jimmy T gets canned or boy wonder realizes that he needs to make a major overhaul. Losing by under 10 may make him complacent or give him hope.
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At this point I want to completely crash and burn. Get the best pick possible and Tomsula out end of the year.
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Devey gives up a league record in sacks. Kap throws a wild ball and kills a cheerleader. Tomsula starts to pace so hard the trainers are called to treat him for cramps. Vernon brings a clay wheel on the sideline and has a ghost moment with Jed. Patton manages to get a 30 yard penalty baffling the announcers.
Bush gets hurt walking out of the locker room. In an act of desperation Hayne it's White in pregame warmups with a boomerang. Acker loses his man and ends up running with Fisher down the sideline on accident.
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the Rams' d line is going to FEAST
