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So glad we didn't draft Manziel

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by FRO, Jun 27, 2014.

  1. Force16X anti pedestrian

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    hey, any quarterback that can lead his team to a national collegiate champio............ oops:whistle:
     
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  2. Oldgeek Jack Snow-Rams history to St Louis

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    The kid is a spoiled rich brat with great talent. I doubt that he'll mature in time to save his career. After that he'll go back to Texas and chase 19 yo girls for the next 50 years.
     
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  3. den-the-coach Well-Known Member

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    I disagree here because Manziel is very smart. Scored really well on the wonderlic just seems to crave attention in every way. IMO once the season starts, he will simmer down focus on fooball and be a very good and dangerous NFL QB barring injury. But again that's JMHO because I am a big believer in Thomas Paine and commone sense.

    Kid has the smarts (on the field not off) and has a great arm can make all the throws and the ability to escape the pocket and keep the play alive. Seems to have the ability to rally his team where they will play hard for him and is in a city that is craving a "hero"...IMO Manziel in Cleveland is the "Perfect Storm."
     
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  4. PrometheusFaulk Well-Known Member

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    He's been used to playing with guys who were men among boys in college - Evans, Joeckl, Matthews...

    He'll have the line thing going for him in Cleveland. Those receivers (without Gordon) though...Cameron will probably have about 140 targets this year because Miles Austin will have a hamstring pull in TC, then you're down to Nate Burleson and Andrew Hawkins. Not good.
     
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  5. blackbart Well-Known Member

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    It sure seems that the Browns should have had a much tight collar on this guy and there must be some special clauses in his control besides the personal conduct out that most teams have.

    He is alienating team mates apparently and who would not be tired of his look at me attitude already. I'm sure the "I'm not changing for anyone" quote is probably taken out of context but I'm also sure he is a spoiled rich kid that need to get broken down a couple of times or he will never be worth a damn.

    I too am glad that the Rams checking him out for a first round (or any round for that matter) pick was all smoke.
     
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  6. Ramrasta The Knight Owl

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    If I was Ray Farmer, I would sit Captain Ego on the bench to watch Hoyer play all year and slap a playbook in his lap for him to study. If he still doesn't take professional football seriously and cooperate with what the organization asks of him, trade him for a new draft pick. Manziel is never going to be a great NFL QB if he doesn't have his head on straight. There are about a million other athletes out there who are focused on bettering themselves and patiently waiting for a chance to steal this joker's spot on the roster.
     
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  7. Rmfnlt Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree.

    I don't think his game translates well to the NFL and, the first time he tucks it away and tries some of the things he was able to get away with in college, he'll get hurt.

    The NFL is the cream of the crop... you just can't do what you did in college in the NFL.

    I thnk he'll get exposed.
     
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  8. Rmfnlt Well-Known Member

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    Hypothetical:

    What if the Rams had drafted Manziel and he was acting this way?

    (for the theoretical, assume the Browns would have done all the same things the Rams would have done with respect to "teaching" him how to behave but he continued)

    Would that change your view on his antics?
     
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  9. DCH This IS my 'oh' face.

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    Impossible to answer 100% accurately, but I'm pretty sure I'd be begging them to trade him regardless. I hate his game. The off-the-field crap is the dingleberry on top of the turd sundae.
     
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  10. Rmfnlt Well-Known Member

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    So the antics would still annoy you?
     
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  11. DCH This IS my 'oh' face.

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    Absolutely. I hate that crap. At least until you show something on an NFL field.

    Confidence and cockiness? That's one thing. Being an entitled me-first toolbag before you've even set foot on the field? That's another entirely.

    Part of the reason Jenkins annoys me. Stop freaking chirping until you're actually shutting them down.
     
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  12. blue4 Well-Known Member

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    Every year the runners get drafted to high hopes, and every year they suck. The best are the Wilson's of the world who look to throw, want to throw, but only run when out of options. These other guys are just job security for trainers. That's why you hire running backs, to run the ball.
     
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  13. DCH This IS my 'oh' face.

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    Difference between Steve Young and Vince Young, IMO. Great pocket passers who can burn you with their running ability vs. big, fast, physical guys who can kind of throw the ball.
     
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  14. nighttrain Well-Known Member

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    agree with you coach, the kid is in the right place, and has a leader mentality. May be a jerk, but will be forgiven if he's a winner, ala Fran Tarkington, he was an arsehole to everybody


    train
     
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  15. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    IF WE HAD DRAFTED HIM IT WOULD BE FISHER I'D BE TRASHING

    I doubt you can teach Manzeil how to act, he already knows, he can behave when he wants to, the trick is making him want to, best thing could have happened to him is waiting till the third round to be drafted and told,hey dude third round choices don't automatically make the team and we're putting all your money in roster bonus' and little to no GJack
     
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  16. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    Nah. In fact, it would make it worse. I'd be really mad we spent a first on a kid who claimed before the draft that he was trying to put that part of himself in the past and then immediately started partying and acting a fool after he was drafted.

    I'd feel like he pulled one over on management.

    Right now, I don't really care. I think he's being stupid/immature but he's not our problem.
     
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  17. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    Remember how fast Steve Young was.......he had serious wheels even later in his career. Drove me effing nuts how he would motor away so often......
     
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  18. RamWoodie Well-Known Member

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    There's one word that describes Manziel...that word is "CLOWN"...he's that to the NTH degree!
     
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  19. BriansRams Well-Known Member

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    He may be selfish and reckless and a self loving idiot, but I have to admit I'm looking forward to watching him play. I think he'll be exciting, whether he gets hurt or not. The guy will be fun to watch on the field and because he's on the Browns we Ram Fans don't have to worry much if he turns out to be pretty good. :)
     
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  20. FRO Well-Known Member

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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...es-it-down-by-hanging-out-with-justin-bieber/

    At a time when Browns owner Jimmy Haslam has been firing plenty of employees, there’s one guy who can defy him without consequence.

    And he apparently is.

    Chris Mortensen of ESPN recently reported thatHaslam wants Manziel to tone it down. Not that Mort needs us or anyone else to confirm his report, but it’s accurate; regardless of comments suggesting that the Browns have no issue with Manziel’s “work hard, play harder” motto, the Browns don’t like it.

    Manziel presumably knows it. And after a couple of fairly quiet weekends, Manziel made a big splash on Monday night by hanging out with . . . Justin Bieber.

    Yes, Bieber. The BFF of Keyshawn Johnson. The child-man-child who periodically seems to be in the process of imploding.

    Via The Big Lead, Manziel partied last night in Hollywood with Bieber, Floyd Mayweather, and Tyrese. Bieber posted photos of the get-together on social media. Per TMZ, police were twice called to Bieber’s house due to noise (possibly by Keyshawn).

    From the Browns’ perspective, it’s the latest example of Manziel keeping anything but a low profile as he enjoys his time away from work. And it’s evidence that heindeed won’t change, even if his employer asks him to. From the NFL’s perspective, the powers-that-be can’t be thrilled about Manziel’s open association with Mayweather, a notorious, high-stakes gambler.

    The only possible good news for the Browns is that Manziel seems to have an “oh crap I probably shouldn’t be doing this” look on his face.

    On one hand, Manziel has yet to get in trouble. On the other hand, he’s flying fairly close to the sun on wings of pastrami. It may be only a matter of time before Manziel lands on the wrong side of the line on which he’s currently popping and locking.
     
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