Rams Snead getting picked apart.

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Yep. Even the OL blocking scheme changed and seems to not suit our current players. Why are we still using a primarily ZBS when it appears these guys aren't as effective in it?

This.^^^ THIS^^^ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!^^^^ Times eight-freakin'-million.

Coach Bou is another one that has always been given God like status with this team. Seems he is as guilty as any of the coaches to me...

I cut Bou a small amount of slack given the item above. If he's being asked to coach players into a blocking scheme that doesn't suit them, he is essentially being asked to fit square pegs into round holes. Nevertheless, it just seems like he's lost his former golden touch, and I won't be at all opposed to moving on from him after this season is over.
 

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I heard the entire interview....I got stuck in traffic on purpose....yeah...I did that...

Seemed like a nice guy...Demarco and whoever just threw up softball questions...

I really want to know...did he like every player we drafted, or was he instructed by Fish? What's up with the linemen? Both sides....Last...I gotta know who wanted the receivers...The wide outs and the TE's....is that Snead or Fisher?

Just read that PFT....now I heard Les last night...and I coulda swore he said he gets together with Fish a couple times a week...like to go over injuries & FA's out there needed to possibly replace them...and he NEVER said, "man, I got extended, you too?" They don't talk????

No locker room talk? (Blue fonts)
 

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I don't disagree with the Fisher culture thing. Also agree that the team has some talent, but I would question the collection of talent we have currently. It just doesn't seem like a cohesive group of players that compliment each other in any particular way. Almost like an auto draft type of lineup, haha. I think you need to draft players that fit the vision and scheme the teams plans to go forward with. Fisher and Snead don't seem to do much critical thinking in that area. The Rams feel like a collection of players, rather than a TEAM....if that makes any sense.
I understand what you are saying but I think the targets have moved from year to year based on injuries, mainly Bradford, who was available in the draft and what they were trying to get done with the limited talent they have had at any given time. They tried opening things up for a few games with Schotty and didn't have the talent to do that. They got TA and Britt but didn't have a guy who cold get them the ball on time. They got Gurley and the oline can't hold a block for 2 seconds.

The oline is and has been the biggest problem with the offense FOREVER. If they can't fix it with players the coach has to be doing something wrong or the selection of players just isn't good enough.

Get that unit fixed, maybe just a stud in the middle??, and the offense could be vastly better.
 

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I don't disagree with the Fisher culture thing. Also agree that the team has some talent, but I would question the collection of talent we have currently.

The worst thing about having bad offensive coaching is we don't know what pieces are good going forward. There's more guesswork there.

Defensively this team is better off for that reason. Williams not only develops his guys effectively, but also has a good feel I am sure on what they need.
 

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I understand what you are saying but I think the targets have moved from year to year based on injuries,
I think that is part of the problem. I am of the mind that you have to be steadfast in your plan regardless. Injuries are an inevitability in the NFL. That is why the draft is so important as to how you build your team depth wise. They have done a decent job with depth along the DL, but I don;t see much depth anywhere else on the roster. They would have had depth on the OL had they drafted better players. Now it seems they have a bunch of backup caliber players starting.
 

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I think that is part of the problem. I am of the mind that you have to be steadfast in your plan regardless. Injuries are an inevitability in the NFL. That is why the draft is so important as to how you build your team depth wise. They have done a decent job with depth along the DL, but I don;t see much depth anywhere else on the roster. They would have had depth on the OL had they drafted better players. Now it seems they have a bunch of backup caliber players starting.
I would agree with that for every position except QB. If your starter isn't healthy you're done and that is what killed the rebuild the last 3 years IMO.

One of the other things I don't know about it how hard has it been for them to attract GOOD free agents? How good would the oline be with Mack at center? Adding him in Atlanta fixed things there in a hurry.
 

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Is there a historical example where an inept offense/defense keeps their personnel in tact and a coaching change vaults them from horrible to league average? I'm asking because I don't know the answer. I do feel that some are putting all the blame on the coaching. The last few years all the blame was on the QB. I think it's a combination of coaching and talent. I believe both Fisher and Snead have failed.
 

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Normally the GM selects the HC and they are tied together.
This is a curious case as Fisher basically picked Snead
And with Fisher having a clear voice, who's to say who picked who?

End of the day, I'd say if one goes, they both go
I agree.
 

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The amount of love Snead gets on here is amazing. How can he NOT be held accountable for the general lack of talent on this team?
Is it a lack of talent or a lack of coaching of talent.I feel it is much more the latter
 

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I feel that there is talent on this team. Conditioning players to become better players can be upped. Utilizing players for specific schemes can be upped. Base the schemes on what we perfected and implement them each game. The talent is there, but the grasp of basic concepts is not. All we do is draft, draft. This keg is almost tapped out, we need a more successful approach on team building.
 

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I cut Bou a small amount of slack given the item above. If he's being asked to coach players into a blocking scheme that doesn't suit them, he is essentially being asked to fit square pegs into round holes.

If Boudreau sees the scheme doesn't fit the talent, don't you think he would say such, and they would allow him to develop the best scheme? I can't imagine Fisher/Boras would not rely on his expertise to develop the right blocking scheme. If he's being "hog-tied," then I wonder why he would stay. All-in-all, I think it's time to bring in a new coach for our O-Line because we are currently seeing a gigantic mixed bag of nuts, and it's driving me nuts.
 

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I cut Bou a small amount of slack given the item above. If he's being asked to coach players into a blocking scheme that doesn't suit them, he is essentially being asked to fit square pegs into round holes.
Gosh, I hope this isn't the case. If it is, who's directing a well seasoned position coach to do something he may be against? Talk about problems.

Nevertheless, it just seems like he's lost his former golden touch, and I won't be at all opposed to moving on from him after this season is over.
Maybe he only had a golden touch when the players were good? This possibility also concerns me... is it the coach... or is it the players.. or is it the scheme?
No wonder we're having problems!
 

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Is it a lack of talent or a lack of coaching of talent.I feel it is much more the latter
I think it's a bit of both. I'll add, I'm not too sure we have a very cerebral group either because there seems to be a bunch of confusion as to blocking assignments during a game. For instance, when the DE slants inside and the DT loops around, you'd think the LG and LT would "pass-off" each other's defender rather than chase the guy he was initially supposed to block. Or, if the RG and Center are supposed to block the guy in their gap before sliding up to the LB'er, rather they both ignored him and stepped right to the LB'er. I would think this kind of crap gets fixed watching film, but it's obvious it doesn't because it continues to happen. No disrespect, but I think our O-Line guys are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.