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How concerned are you with our WRs?

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by max, May 20, 2014.

  1. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Do you have enough coin to rent a car and a tow bar? Pull that thing home...
     
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  2. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I was real confused until I read the rest of your posts. I couldn't figure out why you would lock a tranny in your BMW while he/she is having problems. ;) :LOL:
     
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  3. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    Have to admit I almost posted the same response. :cool:
     
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  4. ReddingRam Well-Known Member

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    Can't pull it. Has to go on a flatbed or trailer :(
     
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  5. cgsuddeath New Member

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    Brady did that last year and look where that got them,out of the playoffs.
     
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  6. den-the-coach Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree here on Pead IMO he's found himself on special teams and can be an excellent third down back because not only does he catch the ball well, but he's very good in pass protection. Hopefully this is the year the Rams utilize him in that capacity and Pead embraces this opportunity.
     
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  7. Memphis Ram Well-Known Member

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    Also got them into playoffs.
     
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    Browns' Ray Farmer doesn't think a "mega-guy'' like a Josh Gordon is critical to success
    By Mary Kay Cabot, Northeast Ohio Media Group
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    BEREA, Ohio -- Browns general manager Ray Farmer said Wednesday that he doesn't think a superstar receiver is crucial to a team's success, which doesn't necessarily bode well for Josh Gordon's long-term future with the club.

    Gordon, who's contract is up after next season, is facing a year-long drug ban from the NFL for failing a marijuana test, according to ESPN.

    "I would say 'how important are those guys?''' Farmer told radio partner 92.3 The Fan. "Name the last big-time receiver to win a Super Bowl. Name the last mega-guy. (Gordon) matters to me because I like the guy and I think he's a really good player, but at the end of the day, when you look at the teams that have these mega-receivers, name the last guy that won a Super Bowl?... There are none. The last guy that really helped his team get there was T.O. (Terrell Owens).''

    Farmer told the station he'd be open to trading for a receiver.

    "Why not?'' he said. "I'm open to every avenue. We're going to unearth every guy that's available.''

    Farmer said he hasn't called the Texans about seven-time Pro Bowl receiver Andre Johnson, who's reportedly frustrated with the direction of the Texans' offense.

    "He's my age,'' said Farmer. "He's 33. The question is, when do you hit the wall? You never know where the wall is until you hit it. Do you ride them all the way to the wall? Or do you give them up a year in front of the wall?''

    Farmer acknowledged he "doesn't know if'' he can replace a Gordon, but doesn't think he has to.

    "The reality is that you put guys in there that can play roles,'' Farmer. "If a guy is a mega-talent, you're not just going to go out on the street and find another one. If a guy is not there, you've got to parcel it. You've got to take a guy that can take the top off, you've got to take a guy that can be a possession guy. You've got to take a guy that can play a variety of roles and then you hodgepodge it. You move guys around, you put them in different situations, you use a rotation.''
     
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  9. FRO Well-Known Member

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    I don't like this argument. Having a great WR helps the team. It's not Calvin Johnson, or Andre Johnson's fault their respective teams haven't put a quality team around them. It's like blaming Steven Jackson for the 09' Rams. That's not to say that you have to have an elite WR on your team to win.
     
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  10. CoachO Well-Known Member

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    How much of a difference did having Amendola total 85 catches in his one healthy season make? So you're argument that the reason Detroit hasn't had any success is because they haven't surrounded the "mega-star" with more "productive" players? kinda hard to do when he is the only one getting the ball thrown to him.

    The Farmer "argument" is the most practical, and logical. and the most widely utilized around the league. Even by some of the most prolific passing attacks.... Denver, New Orleans, Green Bay. Have role players who all make contributions. They know what that role is, and they perform it well. Defenses take Graham away from Brees, then Colston beats you. If you take him away, then Meachem or Lance Moore steps up and makes a play... and so on.

    IMO, its a whole lot easier to find a group of good quality WRs, than it is to get the "mega-guy". And a lot safer in the even the "mega-guy" does down to injury or in the case of Gordon, suspension.
     
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  11. bluesjoc Long time poster,First time reader

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    Looks like the Brown's did pick up another WR today tho



    Miles Austin, who was cut by the Dallas Cowboys earlier this spring, has agreed to terms with the Cleveland Browns, according to their Twitter account.

    Austin has played all eight of his NFL seasons in Dallas, catching 301 passes for 4,481 yards and 34 touchdowns.
    Among the notable changes for the Browns this off-season is the acquisition of former Texas A&M Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Johnny Manziel, who was drafted by Cleveland with the 22nd pick.
    Austin's best year in Dallas was 2009, when he caught 81 passes for 1,320 yards and 11 touchdowns, all career highs. In 2013, Austin played just 11 of the team's 16 games, catching 24 passes with no touchdowns.
     
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  12. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Only if I think a wrs. rookie year is the only way to measure him or even his second,people just need to have confidence i the QB cuz his coaches think he has the talent so time for them to mesh.
    I like the direction we have chosen with this offense ,we will be multidimensional which is the hardest to defend .
     
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  13. FRO Well-Known Member

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    My point is you don't have to have an elite guy, but acting like losing Gordon is nothing because the Seahawks didn't have that type of guy is weak. If you can get a top tier guy get him because he makes your team better.

    Also I feel Denver has an elite guy in Thomas and New Orleans has an elite guy in Graham. Green Bay has 2 guys that are close to elite in Nelson and Cobb.
     
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  14. CoachO Well-Known Member

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    Are they elite because of their talents? or because they are part of a productive group, which makes it much more difficult to focus coverage on them? I realize Graham puts up tremendous numbers, and I also think that is what you always come back to. But defenses have also been able to take him out the game when the choose to focus on him, (the Rams for example), and that doesn't derail the offense as much as it does when a team with that "mega-type" player has an "off day".

    I get your point, and don't disagree with you. IF a team has a chance to add that type of player, it can be a great addition. That goes without saying. But I think too much is made of "needing" a #1 WR or we are doomed if we don't.
     
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  15. ReddingRam Well-Known Member

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    Happy to say we made it home. Stepronic transmission ... so just drove it manually all the way home (y)
     
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  16. Memphis Ram Well-Known Member

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  17. FRO Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Graham is an elite TE. I think he is a elite pass catcher. Guy is tall, has long arms, can go up and get it, and is a tremendous athlete. Guy is super hard to cover. Same thing with Thomas.

    My overall point is saying that while you don't need elite WRs, losing one is killer and if you can add one you should because they really help your offense. It's like the RB by committee vs the single RB. You can win either way. More teams go to the committee approach, but if you can get an AP, Lynch, McCoy type you should and they would greatly help your team. I don't think there is one blue print to build a great team.
     
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  18. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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  19. FRO Well-Known Member

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    Farmer is right that groups of guys can supplement one guy, but the group has to be good. A broke down Miles Austin and co may not be able to do that. Also the attention the secondary has to pay a guy like Gordon does help the other guys. They are going to have to have guys playing great to replace what Gordon gave them. Is it possible? Absolutely. Can their group of receivers do it? We will find out. It's going to be tough though.
     
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  20. FRO Well-Known Member

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    Another point, it's going to really be tough on Manziel if he is their starter, because reading defenses wasn't his strong suit. So in his case having a number 1 was huge.
     
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