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Seems to me that the Rams are going about building their WR room the same way that Green Bay, New England and the Steelers for the most part. They don't seem interested in the guys with "name" or "media accolades" but more towards the blue collar guys who compete. Guys who produce, but not in the flashy way. Although I don;t see a tone of speed ... just look at what the actual production was in college for the guys they brought in. Pretty impressive resumes despite not getting a lot of attention.
We might ... just might .. .find our "Jordy Nelson", "Randall Cobb" and "James Jones" here.
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These guys all have to realize .. they ARE talented .. and despite their draft status or lack of, they all need to compete hard because this team has a few voids ... it's every man for himself. The cream will rise to the top!
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Handicapping the WR's finalists this early could be described as a fools errand. Lol.
But why should I let THAT stop me?
Here's my take pre camp...
Britt. He's an experienced vet, so he's a lock for this year. Emphasis "this year".
Austin. Same thing. Goff might prove to be the best thing that's ever happened to Tavon's career.
Cooper. Not a lock, but highly likely. Looks like a semi steal in the 4th round.
Thomas. A probable. But needs to have a really good camp. Needs to show some good hands, too.
After those 4, it gets blurry for me. There seems to be a TON of talent among our UDFA's this year. Wouldn't be a big surprise if 2 of them made the 53, costing Quick and/or Marquez their jobs.
Marquez might make it because of his ST play. I think Quick is less than 50-50 to make it.
I'll say this. It's gonna be a helluva camp position battle, without question. I expect our WR corps to emerge as a unit far superior to last year's version. And all could thrive while catching passes from Goff.
I'll also say that Groh will be tested in his development skills, but if he pulls this off it will look reeeeeally good on his resume.
But why should I let THAT stop me?
Here's my take pre camp...
Britt. He's an experienced vet, so he's a lock for this year. Emphasis "this year".
Austin. Same thing. Goff might prove to be the best thing that's ever happened to Tavon's career.
Cooper. Not a lock, but highly likely. Looks like a semi steal in the 4th round.
Thomas. A probable. But needs to have a really good camp. Needs to show some good hands, too.
After those 4, it gets blurry for me. There seems to be a TON of talent among our UDFA's this year. Wouldn't be a big surprise if 2 of them made the 53, costing Quick and/or Marquez their jobs.
Marquez might make it because of his ST play. I think Quick is less than 50-50 to make it.
I'll say this. It's gonna be a helluva camp position battle, without question. I expect our WR corps to emerge as a unit far superior to last year's version. And all could thrive while catching passes from Goff.
I'll also say that Groh will be tested in his development skills, but if he pulls this off it will look reeeeeally good on his resume.
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In my humble opinion, we have good group of WR. not phenomenal, but adequate for the NFL level.
But, offensive coordinator is most important for wide receivers development.
Next important thing is the quality QB.
We have superb QB, but dont know for OC ...
Good OC need to create schemes to developing skill sets for each of our WR and to maximizing performance for one of the offense's most important positions.
If we do not have this approach, if we do not have a system ... even best WR cant do nothing.
So, we need a system who will take advantage of our WR
But, offensive coordinator is most important for wide receivers development.
Next important thing is the quality QB.
We have superb QB, but dont know for OC ...
Good OC need to create schemes to developing skill sets for each of our WR and to maximizing performance for one of the offense's most important positions.
If we do not have this approach, if we do not have a system ... even best WR cant do nothing.
So, we need a system who will take advantage of our WR
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X Receiver- Kenny Britt and Marquez North (In contention Brian Quick)
Britt is a fisher favorite, best blocking receiver, and best deep threat at the moment. Battle to backup up Britt is probably between Quick and North. North's main issue has been health. If healthy I think his upside is higher than Quicks and he is signed past next year. North is bigger, faster, more physical, has better hands, and as a UDFA he would probably be more willing to play special teams. North has the upside to replace Britt in the receiver pecking order.
Z Receiver-Tavon Austin and Mike Thomas (In contention Paul McRoberts)
Tavon is our best playmaker on offense outside of Gurley have to have him on the field as much as possible. Thomas v. McRoberts will be an interesting camp battle both have decent size, athleticism, and the ability to make contested catches. I give the edge to Thomas because he was the draft pick, played at higher level of competition, and has more upside.
Slot- Pharoh Cooper and Bradley Marquez (In contention Nelson Spruce)
Since Tavon and Britt our projected starters mainly play on the outside whoever wins the slot job could be third option at WR. Cooper offers alot after the catch, he's tough, and gets open the perfect slot guy. Marquez was our best special teamer last year and certainly didn't embarrass himself when asked to play in the slot last year. The rams seem to find great UDFA special teamers every year, but I don't think they found anyone who can eclipse Marquez's special teams value.
Pecking Order
1. Tavon
2. Britt
3. Cooper
4. Thomas
5. North
6. Marquez
Britt is a fisher favorite, best blocking receiver, and best deep threat at the moment. Battle to backup up Britt is probably between Quick and North. North's main issue has been health. If healthy I think his upside is higher than Quicks and he is signed past next year. North is bigger, faster, more physical, has better hands, and as a UDFA he would probably be more willing to play special teams. North has the upside to replace Britt in the receiver pecking order.
Z Receiver-Tavon Austin and Mike Thomas (In contention Paul McRoberts)
Tavon is our best playmaker on offense outside of Gurley have to have him on the field as much as possible. Thomas v. McRoberts will be an interesting camp battle both have decent size, athleticism, and the ability to make contested catches. I give the edge to Thomas because he was the draft pick, played at higher level of competition, and has more upside.
Slot- Pharoh Cooper and Bradley Marquez (In contention Nelson Spruce)
Since Tavon and Britt our projected starters mainly play on the outside whoever wins the slot job could be third option at WR. Cooper offers alot after the catch, he's tough, and gets open the perfect slot guy. Marquez was our best special teamer last year and certainly didn't embarrass himself when asked to play in the slot last year. The rams seem to find great UDFA special teamers every year, but I don't think they found anyone who can eclipse Marquez's special teams value.
Pecking Order
1. Tavon
2. Britt
3. Cooper
4. Thomas
5. North
6. Marquez
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CLOSER LOOK AT THE WR UDFA's & sleeper SCAT BACK (RB Aarron Green.)
#86 WR NELSON SPRUCE 6'1 206 lbs (He only had 3 dropped catchable balls in his entire career?)
Year........Team......Games...Catch....Yards....YPC
2012.... Colorado.... 12............ 44.... 446.... 10.1.... TD 3
2013.... Colorado.... 12............ 55.... 650.... 11.8.... TD 4
2014.... Colorado.... 12............106....1198...11.3.... TD 12
2015.... Colorado.... 13.............89.....1053...11.8.... TD 4
[www.cbssports.com]
STRENGTHS: Spruce is a polished, dependable route-runner with the soft hands to quickly become a quarterback's favorite target. He uses deceptive quickness off of the ball to escape press coverage and incorporates body lean, varied gaits and an occasional push-off to gain separation from more athletic pass defenders.
He has a lanky, athletic frame and possesses terrific ball skills, including the body control and catch radius to pull in passes far outside of his frame.
Spruce has good hand-eye coordination and soft mitts to pluck the football and secure it quickly. Effectively uses a jab-step to force opponents to commit to one direction before turning the other way, scrambling for extra yardage. He shows good vision to set up blocks and isn't afraid to turn things upfield into traffic rather than attempting to circle around defenders.
Spruce shows vision and toughness in working across the middle on drag routes, slipping through traffic and showing the focus and toughness to pull in passes with defenders closing in.
WEAKNESSES: While his production is undeniable, Spruce does not possess ideal athletic traits. Has just average straight-line speed and relies on sharp route-running (rather than true explosiveness) to generate separation. He'll struggle to get free against NFL cornerbacks on the perimeter and doesn't possess the size, leaping ability or strength to consistently win 50-50 balls.
IN OUR VIEW: Spruce is a classic possession receiver who wins with savvy route-running and soft hands. He production will get him a shot but he's not surefire NFL prospect his numbers would indicate.
Rob Rang (1/18/16)
YOUTUBE: Highlights of Milestones Spruce reached
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YOUTUBE: Interview talks about setting PAC12 records
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#3 WR MARQUEZ NORTH 6'2 223 lbs (Injury history only played in 13 games last 2 seasons)
Year.... Team.......Games....Catch...Yards...YPC
2013.... Tennessee....... 11.....38.....496.... 13.1.... TD 1
2014.... Tennessee....... 8...... 30.... 320.... 10.7.... TD 4
2015.... Tennessee....... 5...... 6...... 58.........9.7.....TD 0
[www.cbssports.com]
STRENGTHS: Built like a running back with a muscular, filled-out frame. Long arms to track and extend his catch radius, making tough grabs look easy away from his body. Above average body control and strong hands to adjust and stab.
Accelerates well off the line of scrimmage and quickly gets into his routes. Enough speed to stack receivers vertically. Nifty to catch the ball in stride. Body power to trample defensive backs and shrug off tacklers. Uses physicality to separate.
Balanced blocker to engage and control his target, keeping busy. Blocks with violence and not shy about delivering blows.
WEAKNESSES: Better timed than play speed and more of a one-note runner. Tips his routes and doesn't set up cornerbacks, lacking nuance or tempo. Allows his feet to get tied up at stem. Doesn't have the start/stop burst to quickly redirect or be efficient at the top of patterns - ran a lot of comeback and rudimentary routes to keep things simple. Average leaper.
Not elusive after the catch and not a consistent YAC threat. Overaggressive tendencies as a blocker leads to the occasional whiff. Poor career production. Struggled to stay healthy, missing several games each of his three seasons in Knoxville (10 total games).
IN OUR VIEW: North is rocked up with the size/athleticism profile that is highly intriguing, showing strong hands and the body control to contort his body mid-air. North is also one of the most physical blocking receivers in this class, but is a below average route-runner and his athleticism doesn't consistently translate to football production.
A player who will be drafted higher than his resume suggests due to his raw traits and upside, North can be a better pro than college player if he stays healthy and focuses on the details of the position - he projects as a developmental receiver worth the gamble in the mid-rounds to be a snatch-and-secure wideout.
Dane Brugler (4/13/16)
YOUTUBE: Quality highlights
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#8 WR PAUL MCROBERTS 6'1 202 lbs (Small school scrappy WR gets his chance)
Year...Games..Catch.....Yards.....YPC
2012..... 9...... 11...........138........12.5.....TD 2
2013..... 12.... 44............646..... 14.7..... TD 9
2014..... 7...... 44............ 711..... 16.2..... TD 9
2015..... 11.... 76............940......12.4..... TD 9
[www.cbssports.com]
McRoberts received the call-up from the Shrine Game to the Senior Bowl as a replacement for injured TCU receiver Josh Doctson and was the first SEMO player to participate in Mobile.
The St. Louis native was a first team All-Ohio Valley Conference player by the media after catching 76 passes for 940 yards and nine touchdowns, averaging 12.4 yards per catch in 2015. McRoberts broke Southeast's all-time career record in receiving touchdowns (29) and had four 100-yard receiving games.
He also compiled 162 yards on 14 punt returns, including a 69-yard return for a touchdown. McRoberts finished his Southeast career with 2,435 receiving yards, third-most in school history.
STRENGTHS: Good-sized athlete with long-striding acceleration. Not explosive, but nifty.
Quick hands and long arms to pluck and secure, swallowing the ball with his large mitts. Tracks well with the body control and catch radius that gives him a chance. Will aggressively attack and fight for the rebound.
Won't break many tackles, but runs tough and physical to finish. Nice job working for body position, paying attention to his feet along the sideline. Two-time team captain and reliable (SEMO HC Tom Matukewicz: "When your best player is your hardest worker it makes your job pretty easy."
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Special teams experience, averaging 11.5 yards on punt returns (14/162/1) and 19.5 yards on kick returns (4/78/0). Highly productive and holds the school-record for career receiving touchdowns (29).
WEAKNESSES: Doesn't consistently play up to his size. Average-at-best play speed with only one gear in his routes, struggling to create separation. Upright runner and doesn't set up defenders in his patterns, lacking tempo. Allows cornerbacks to slow or re-route him.
Limited after the catch and won't create on his own as a ballcarrier. Too many almost catches and needs to better time his leaps. Needs to improve his recognition of coverages and concepts. Good pop, but little sustain as a blocker and needs refinement in this area.
Missed five games in 2014 due to a Lisfranc fracture in his right foot (Sept. 2014). Most of his experience has come vs. lower competition.
IN OUR VIEW: Although he doesn't do it consistently, it's a thing of beauty when McRoberts can get his hands free and highpoint to attack the ball and use his basketball background (walked on the SEMO basketball team in 2013-14 and averaged 5.9 points per game). McRoberts wasn't a consistent deep threat on film, but did his best work in the red zone and on in-breaking routes like slants and tunnel-screens, using his snatch-and-secure receiving skills.
He will have a very tough time separating vs. NFL cornerbacks due to average speed and dull routes, but his raw traits and large catch radius makes him an enticing developmental project in the later rounds.
Dane Brugler (2/3/16)
YOUTUBE: HIGHLIGHTS
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WR's IN FOR TRY OUTS
WR D'HAQUILLE "DUKE" WILLIAMS 6'2 229 lbs (A troubled talent changing his ways?)
2014.... Catches.... 45.... Yards.... 730.... YPC.... 16.2.... Long.... 62.... TD 5
2015.... Catches.... 12.... Yards.... 147.... YPC.... 12.3.... Long.... 19.... TD 1
[www.cbssports.com]
A JUCO transfer, Williams arrived at Auburn in 2014 and led the Tigers in catches (45) and receiving scores (5) despite missing three games due to injury. However, he routinely rubbed coaches the wrong way and his inconsistent effort on and off the field led to his dismissal in October.
STRENGTHS: Natural tools are encouraging. Lining up mostly inside in Auburn's offense, Williams is a good-sized target with long-striding speed to accelerate quickly into his routes, displaying hesitation with his footwork at the top of his patterns. He is best on stick and stop routes.
WEAKNESSES: Like Sammie Coates, he is raw in several areas. He doesn't consistently play up to his size and often misjudges his highpointing jumps when attacking the ball.
Williams found himself in the dog house during preseason practices and his lackadaisical route-running has NFL scouts worried about his passion and commitment, failing to lift up the offense while his teammates struggled prior to his dismissal from the program.
IN OUR VIEW: Williams didn't look like a first round pick on 2014 tape, but many scouts graded him as the top senior receiver over the summer. However, he might find himself undrafted or a late rounder at best unless he makes some changes.
Dane Brugler (11/1/15)
YOUTUBE: HIGHLIGHTS (career)
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WR KENNETH SCOTT 6'2 209 lbs (Longshot with little production)
Year.Team Games..Catch.Yards...YPC
2011.... Utah.... 10...... 8.... 141.... 17.6.... TD 0
2012.... Utah.... 12.... 32.... 360.... 11.3.... TD 3
2014.... Utah.... 12.... 48.... 506.... 10.5.... TD 4
2015.... Utah ....13.... 39.... 457.... 11.7.... TD 4....
[www.rotoworld.com]
TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline wrote that Utah WR Kenneth Scott "caught the ball extremely well" during Thursday's Pro Day.
Among Scott's Pro Day testing numbers, a nice 38-inch vertical jump, an estimated (less nice) 40-yard dash time of 4.64 seconds and 17 reps on the bench press.
Last season, the 6-foot-3, 208-pound wideout caught 39 passes for 457 yards and four touchdowns.
TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline harped on consistency issues over the summer. Without huge athletic upside, Scott probably stands as an UDFA once the draft dust has settled.
YOUTUBE: HIGHLIGHTS
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Jimmy JJ Worton, WR (LA/NE)
Year......... Team...Games...Catch..Yards..YPC
2011......... CentFL... 12..... 41.... 531..... 13.0... TD 4
2012........ CentFL... 14..... 44.... 594..... 13.5... TD 5
2013........ CentFL... 13..... 47.... 721..... 15.3... TD 7
2014........ CentFL... 10..... 36.... 514..... 14.3... TD 5
Spent the final month of the 2015 regular season on the St. Louis Rams practice squad after being signed on Dec. 11 as a rookie free agent from University of Central Florida.
The 6-foot-2, 211-pounder, finished his college career with 168 receptions for 2,360 receiving yards and 21 touchdowns. He had 36 receptions for 514 yards and five touchdowns as a senior in 2014.
NFL DRAFT GEEKS: WR POWER RANKINGS (FULL LIST 1-65)
Link.. [nfldraftgeek.com]
UDFA RUNNING BACK
#36 AARON GREEN 5'11 203 lbs (This scat back has Amazing FEET!)
Year..Team... Games..Att...Yards..AVG........Catch... Yards....
2011.... NEB.... 12.... 24.... 105... 4.4... TD 2.....1.......25... TD 1
2013.... TCU.... 10.... 72.... 232... 3.2... TD 0 .....4.......24.. TD 1
2014.... TCU.... 13.... 129.. 922... 7.1... TD 9.....19....166... TD 2
2015.... TCU.... 13... 244...1272.. 5.2... TD 11...16.... 117... TD 1
[www.cbssports.com]
Green arrived at Nebraska in 2011 as a top high school recruit, but with a crowded running back depth chart led by Rex Burkhead and Ameer Abdullah, He elected to transfer.
Green chose TCU over Baylor, Oklahoma and Texas Tech, sitting out the 2012 season due to transfer rules. He stepped into the starter role as a junior with a team-high 922 yards and nine scores, earning second team All-Big 12 honors. Green had his bests season in 2015 as a senior (10 starts) with a career-high 1,272 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns, earning All-Big 12 Honorable Mention honors.
STRENGTHS: Balanced athlete and light on his feet to make sharp lateral cuts, creating with ankle-breaking jukes. Shifty movements and open-field wiggle to explode north-south. Easy acceleration to burst away from defenders in space. Natural run instincts to read blocks and usually has a plan at the line of scrimmage. Runs tough and keep his legs churning, fighting for every yard.
Focused receiver with reliable hands, often lining up in the slot. Has the chops to at least make an effort in pass protection. Only three fumbles in his career. Driven individual and well-respected by people around the program "phenomenal young man."
WEAKNESSES: Lacks an ideal build for the position and his frame doesn't have the growth potential to get much bigger. Runs with minimal power and is limited as an inside runner. Tunnel vision at times and gets bounce happy, dancing and taking too many steps in the backfield.
Needs to take what is blocked for him instead of trying to create on his own. Bad habit of stopping his feet and won't pick up yards after initial contact, too easily taken down by finger-tip tackles. Doesn't have elite downfield speed and can be caught from behind.
Route-running and field sense need improved. Steps up as a blocker, but too easily knocked off his feet. Ball security needs improved, holding the ball too loose.
IN OUR VIEW: Green has video game-like cuts, making quick reads and reacting with his feet to keep defenders off-balance, but he needs space to be effective. He isn't a strong between-the-tackles runner and struggles with congestion, not consistently trusting his vision or allowing blocks to develop. Green is quicker than fast with the athleticism to create on his own as a runner or receiver, but his lack of run power will limit his role in the NFL.
Dane Brugler (2/8/16)
YOUTUBE:Highlights watch his feet (I believe he's related to the former HOF CB Darrell Green)
[www.youtube.com]
#86 WR NELSON SPRUCE 6'1 206 lbs (He only had 3 dropped catchable balls in his entire career?)
Year........Team......Games...Catch....Yards....YPC
2012.... Colorado.... 12............ 44.... 446.... 10.1.... TD 3
2013.... Colorado.... 12............ 55.... 650.... 11.8.... TD 4
2014.... Colorado.... 12............106....1198...11.3.... TD 12
2015.... Colorado.... 13.............89.....1053...11.8.... TD 4
[www.cbssports.com]
STRENGTHS: Spruce is a polished, dependable route-runner with the soft hands to quickly become a quarterback's favorite target. He uses deceptive quickness off of the ball to escape press coverage and incorporates body lean, varied gaits and an occasional push-off to gain separation from more athletic pass defenders.
He has a lanky, athletic frame and possesses terrific ball skills, including the body control and catch radius to pull in passes far outside of his frame.
Spruce has good hand-eye coordination and soft mitts to pluck the football and secure it quickly. Effectively uses a jab-step to force opponents to commit to one direction before turning the other way, scrambling for extra yardage. He shows good vision to set up blocks and isn't afraid to turn things upfield into traffic rather than attempting to circle around defenders.
Spruce shows vision and toughness in working across the middle on drag routes, slipping through traffic and showing the focus and toughness to pull in passes with defenders closing in.
WEAKNESSES: While his production is undeniable, Spruce does not possess ideal athletic traits. Has just average straight-line speed and relies on sharp route-running (rather than true explosiveness) to generate separation. He'll struggle to get free against NFL cornerbacks on the perimeter and doesn't possess the size, leaping ability or strength to consistently win 50-50 balls.
IN OUR VIEW: Spruce is a classic possession receiver who wins with savvy route-running and soft hands. He production will get him a shot but he's not surefire NFL prospect his numbers would indicate.
Rob Rang (1/18/16)
YOUTUBE: Highlights of Milestones Spruce reached
[www.youtube.com]
YOUTUBE: Interview talks about setting PAC12 records
[www.youtube.com]
#3 WR MARQUEZ NORTH 6'2 223 lbs (Injury history only played in 13 games last 2 seasons)
Year.... Team.......Games....Catch...Yards...YPC
2013.... Tennessee....... 11.....38.....496.... 13.1.... TD 1
2014.... Tennessee....... 8...... 30.... 320.... 10.7.... TD 4
2015.... Tennessee....... 5...... 6...... 58.........9.7.....TD 0
[www.cbssports.com]
STRENGTHS: Built like a running back with a muscular, filled-out frame. Long arms to track and extend his catch radius, making tough grabs look easy away from his body. Above average body control and strong hands to adjust and stab.
Accelerates well off the line of scrimmage and quickly gets into his routes. Enough speed to stack receivers vertically. Nifty to catch the ball in stride. Body power to trample defensive backs and shrug off tacklers. Uses physicality to separate.
Balanced blocker to engage and control his target, keeping busy. Blocks with violence and not shy about delivering blows.
WEAKNESSES: Better timed than play speed and more of a one-note runner. Tips his routes and doesn't set up cornerbacks, lacking nuance or tempo. Allows his feet to get tied up at stem. Doesn't have the start/stop burst to quickly redirect or be efficient at the top of patterns - ran a lot of comeback and rudimentary routes to keep things simple. Average leaper.
Not elusive after the catch and not a consistent YAC threat. Overaggressive tendencies as a blocker leads to the occasional whiff. Poor career production. Struggled to stay healthy, missing several games each of his three seasons in Knoxville (10 total games).
IN OUR VIEW: North is rocked up with the size/athleticism profile that is highly intriguing, showing strong hands and the body control to contort his body mid-air. North is also one of the most physical blocking receivers in this class, but is a below average route-runner and his athleticism doesn't consistently translate to football production.
A player who will be drafted higher than his resume suggests due to his raw traits and upside, North can be a better pro than college player if he stays healthy and focuses on the details of the position - he projects as a developmental receiver worth the gamble in the mid-rounds to be a snatch-and-secure wideout.
Dane Brugler (4/13/16)
YOUTUBE: Quality highlights
[www.youtube.com]
#8 WR PAUL MCROBERTS 6'1 202 lbs (Small school scrappy WR gets his chance)
Year...Games..Catch.....Yards.....YPC
2012..... 9...... 11...........138........12.5.....TD 2
2013..... 12.... 44............646..... 14.7..... TD 9
2014..... 7...... 44............ 711..... 16.2..... TD 9
2015..... 11.... 76............940......12.4..... TD 9
[www.cbssports.com]
McRoberts received the call-up from the Shrine Game to the Senior Bowl as a replacement for injured TCU receiver Josh Doctson and was the first SEMO player to participate in Mobile.
The St. Louis native was a first team All-Ohio Valley Conference player by the media after catching 76 passes for 940 yards and nine touchdowns, averaging 12.4 yards per catch in 2015. McRoberts broke Southeast's all-time career record in receiving touchdowns (29) and had four 100-yard receiving games.
He also compiled 162 yards on 14 punt returns, including a 69-yard return for a touchdown. McRoberts finished his Southeast career with 2,435 receiving yards, third-most in school history.
STRENGTHS: Good-sized athlete with long-striding acceleration. Not explosive, but nifty.
Quick hands and long arms to pluck and secure, swallowing the ball with his large mitts. Tracks well with the body control and catch radius that gives him a chance. Will aggressively attack and fight for the rebound.
Won't break many tackles, but runs tough and physical to finish. Nice job working for body position, paying attention to his feet along the sideline. Two-time team captain and reliable (SEMO HC Tom Matukewicz: "When your best player is your hardest worker it makes your job pretty easy."
Special teams experience, averaging 11.5 yards on punt returns (14/162/1) and 19.5 yards on kick returns (4/78/0). Highly productive and holds the school-record for career receiving touchdowns (29).
WEAKNESSES: Doesn't consistently play up to his size. Average-at-best play speed with only one gear in his routes, struggling to create separation. Upright runner and doesn't set up defenders in his patterns, lacking tempo. Allows cornerbacks to slow or re-route him.
Limited after the catch and won't create on his own as a ballcarrier. Too many almost catches and needs to better time his leaps. Needs to improve his recognition of coverages and concepts. Good pop, but little sustain as a blocker and needs refinement in this area.
Missed five games in 2014 due to a Lisfranc fracture in his right foot (Sept. 2014). Most of his experience has come vs. lower competition.
IN OUR VIEW: Although he doesn't do it consistently, it's a thing of beauty when McRoberts can get his hands free and highpoint to attack the ball and use his basketball background (walked on the SEMO basketball team in 2013-14 and averaged 5.9 points per game). McRoberts wasn't a consistent deep threat on film, but did his best work in the red zone and on in-breaking routes like slants and tunnel-screens, using his snatch-and-secure receiving skills.
He will have a very tough time separating vs. NFL cornerbacks due to average speed and dull routes, but his raw traits and large catch radius makes him an enticing developmental project in the later rounds.
Dane Brugler (2/3/16)
YOUTUBE: HIGHLIGHTS
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WR's IN FOR TRY OUTS
WR D'HAQUILLE "DUKE" WILLIAMS 6'2 229 lbs (A troubled talent changing his ways?)
2014.... Catches.... 45.... Yards.... 730.... YPC.... 16.2.... Long.... 62.... TD 5
2015.... Catches.... 12.... Yards.... 147.... YPC.... 12.3.... Long.... 19.... TD 1
[www.cbssports.com]
A JUCO transfer, Williams arrived at Auburn in 2014 and led the Tigers in catches (45) and receiving scores (5) despite missing three games due to injury. However, he routinely rubbed coaches the wrong way and his inconsistent effort on and off the field led to his dismissal in October.
STRENGTHS: Natural tools are encouraging. Lining up mostly inside in Auburn's offense, Williams is a good-sized target with long-striding speed to accelerate quickly into his routes, displaying hesitation with his footwork at the top of his patterns. He is best on stick and stop routes.
WEAKNESSES: Like Sammie Coates, he is raw in several areas. He doesn't consistently play up to his size and often misjudges his highpointing jumps when attacking the ball.
Williams found himself in the dog house during preseason practices and his lackadaisical route-running has NFL scouts worried about his passion and commitment, failing to lift up the offense while his teammates struggled prior to his dismissal from the program.
IN OUR VIEW: Williams didn't look like a first round pick on 2014 tape, but many scouts graded him as the top senior receiver over the summer. However, he might find himself undrafted or a late rounder at best unless he makes some changes.
Dane Brugler (11/1/15)
YOUTUBE: HIGHLIGHTS (career)
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WR KENNETH SCOTT 6'2 209 lbs (Longshot with little production)
Year.Team Games..Catch.Yards...YPC
2011.... Utah.... 10...... 8.... 141.... 17.6.... TD 0
2012.... Utah.... 12.... 32.... 360.... 11.3.... TD 3
2014.... Utah.... 12.... 48.... 506.... 10.5.... TD 4
2015.... Utah ....13.... 39.... 457.... 11.7.... TD 4....
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TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline wrote that Utah WR Kenneth Scott "caught the ball extremely well" during Thursday's Pro Day.
Among Scott's Pro Day testing numbers, a nice 38-inch vertical jump, an estimated (less nice) 40-yard dash time of 4.64 seconds and 17 reps on the bench press.
Last season, the 6-foot-3, 208-pound wideout caught 39 passes for 457 yards and four touchdowns.
TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline harped on consistency issues over the summer. Without huge athletic upside, Scott probably stands as an UDFA once the draft dust has settled.
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Jimmy JJ Worton, WR (LA/NE)
Year......... Team...Games...Catch..Yards..YPC
2011......... CentFL... 12..... 41.... 531..... 13.0... TD 4
2012........ CentFL... 14..... 44.... 594..... 13.5... TD 5
2013........ CentFL... 13..... 47.... 721..... 15.3... TD 7
2014........ CentFL... 10..... 36.... 514..... 14.3... TD 5
Spent the final month of the 2015 regular season on the St. Louis Rams practice squad after being signed on Dec. 11 as a rookie free agent from University of Central Florida.
The 6-foot-2, 211-pounder, finished his college career with 168 receptions for 2,360 receiving yards and 21 touchdowns. He had 36 receptions for 514 yards and five touchdowns as a senior in 2014.
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UDFA RUNNING BACK
#36 AARON GREEN 5'11 203 lbs (This scat back has Amazing FEET!)
Year..Team... Games..Att...Yards..AVG........Catch... Yards....
2011.... NEB.... 12.... 24.... 105... 4.4... TD 2.....1.......25... TD 1
2013.... TCU.... 10.... 72.... 232... 3.2... TD 0 .....4.......24.. TD 1
2014.... TCU.... 13.... 129.. 922... 7.1... TD 9.....19....166... TD 2
2015.... TCU.... 13... 244...1272.. 5.2... TD 11...16.... 117... TD 1
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Green arrived at Nebraska in 2011 as a top high school recruit, but with a crowded running back depth chart led by Rex Burkhead and Ameer Abdullah, He elected to transfer.
Green chose TCU over Baylor, Oklahoma and Texas Tech, sitting out the 2012 season due to transfer rules. He stepped into the starter role as a junior with a team-high 922 yards and nine scores, earning second team All-Big 12 honors. Green had his bests season in 2015 as a senior (10 starts) with a career-high 1,272 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns, earning All-Big 12 Honorable Mention honors.
STRENGTHS: Balanced athlete and light on his feet to make sharp lateral cuts, creating with ankle-breaking jukes. Shifty movements and open-field wiggle to explode north-south. Easy acceleration to burst away from defenders in space. Natural run instincts to read blocks and usually has a plan at the line of scrimmage. Runs tough and keep his legs churning, fighting for every yard.
Focused receiver with reliable hands, often lining up in the slot. Has the chops to at least make an effort in pass protection. Only three fumbles in his career. Driven individual and well-respected by people around the program "phenomenal young man."
WEAKNESSES: Lacks an ideal build for the position and his frame doesn't have the growth potential to get much bigger. Runs with minimal power and is limited as an inside runner. Tunnel vision at times and gets bounce happy, dancing and taking too many steps in the backfield.
Needs to take what is blocked for him instead of trying to create on his own. Bad habit of stopping his feet and won't pick up yards after initial contact, too easily taken down by finger-tip tackles. Doesn't have elite downfield speed and can be caught from behind.
Route-running and field sense need improved. Steps up as a blocker, but too easily knocked off his feet. Ball security needs improved, holding the ball too loose.
IN OUR VIEW: Green has video game-like cuts, making quick reads and reacting with his feet to keep defenders off-balance, but he needs space to be effective. He isn't a strong between-the-tackles runner and struggles with congestion, not consistently trusting his vision or allowing blocks to develop. Green is quicker than fast with the athleticism to create on his own as a runner or receiver, but his lack of run power will limit his role in the NFL.
Dane Brugler (2/8/16)
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IF we count Bailey in, because the Rams are still carrying him on the Roster, The Rams have a Total of 14 WR's on the Roster, and I'm not counting TE's or RB's that can play WR too!
Competition is really going to be " Hot-and-Heavy" this summer!!
And this doesn't include Duke Williams, If he's signed!
Competition is really going to be " Hot-and-Heavy" this summer!!
And this doesn't include Duke Williams, If he's signed!
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How I'd like it to go?
#1 Quick
#2 Austin
#3 Thomas
#4 Cooper
#5 Britt
#6 North, McRoberts, Ferguson (with the 2 odd men out on the PS)
It might go:
#1 Britt
#2 Austin
#3 Cooper
#4 Thomas
#5 Quick
#6 McRoberts
How I'd like the options to be?
Quick, Austin, Higbee, Thomas, Kendricks, Cooper, Cunningham, Britt (drops far too many balls),
#1 Quick
#2 Austin
#3 Thomas
#4 Cooper
#5 Britt
#6 North, McRoberts, Ferguson (with the 2 odd men out on the PS)
It might go:
#1 Britt
#2 Austin
#3 Cooper
#4 Thomas
#5 Quick
#6 McRoberts
How I'd like the options to be?
Quick, Austin, Higbee, Thomas, Kendricks, Cooper, Cunningham, Britt (drops far too many balls),
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Same as last year + Cooper.
That said Quick has to show up as he was in 14.
If not he has to play special teams or he's gone.
If Stedman can come back and play at his old level then it's murky.
Thomas is wildcard. He could play his way on the team based on his upside and ST play.
The 6th WR spot is a fight with the 4th TE spot.
Numbers game.
That said Quick has to show up as he was in 14.
If not he has to play special teams or he's gone.
If Stedman can come back and play at his old level then it's murky.
Thomas is wildcard. He could play his way on the team based on his upside and ST play.
The 6th WR spot is a fight with the 4th TE spot.
Numbers game.
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Okay... I have taken the bait. Here is my receiving groups, blue font are my picks to be on the 53 man roster. Specific comments below about my specific position groups:
POS FIRST SECOND THIRD
WR-X Britt Quick Thomas(R)
WR-Z Austin Cooper(R) Marquez
TE-R Higbee(R) Hemingway(R)
TE Kendricks Cunningham
TE/FB Harkey Zack Laskey
WR-X Britt Quick Thomas(R)
WR-Z Austin Cooper(R) Marquez
TE-R Higbee(R) Hemingway(R)
TE Kendricks Cunningham
TE/FB Harkey Zack Laskey
- The blue guys are competing for the 46 man game day roster after they have made the 53 man roster. Black font are guys who will not make the 53 man roster and who will be on the practice squad.
- UGFAs get little love from me. They went undrafted for a reason. They can upgrade our practice squad.
- I expect Quick to move ahead of Britt.
- Cooper will press Austin more than is generally thought.
- Hemingway will make the roster and play more than we think because Higbee is always hurt (has never played a full season)
- Higbee and Hemingway HAVE to be better blockers than we think or our run first game with Gurley is shot (Personally I would have replaced one of the TE with Jerral Adams).
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He is never going to play special teams!
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Marquez will make the 53 man due to his ST play which will give him some reps at WR as well.
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Then he better wow at catching the ball.
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We need a WR with a G name.
Goff
Gurley
We need Josh Gordon to turn this offense into a G thing.
Either that or let's coax Mardy Gilyard out of "retirement"
Goff
Gurley
We need Josh Gordon to turn this offense into a G thing.
Either that or let's coax Mardy Gilyard out of "retirement"
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Time to cool the jets on the Williams push. Guess he hasn't had a tryout yet.