You’ve got to see Rams Joseph Noteboom to believe him

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You’ve got to see Rams Joseph Noteboom to believe him

The way the season ended for LA Rams left guard Joseph Noteboom in 2019 was as unpleasant as his first year starting on the offensive line. A young man who had played offensive tackle for the Texas Christian University Horned Frogs football team found himself starting at left guard. While he lined up to the Rams venerable left tackle Andrew Whitworth, he also lined next to another first-time starter on the offensive line, center Brian Allen.

The Rams started the season by winning three games before losing a trap game to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. After the next game against the San Francisco 49ers was tied up at 7-7, the Rams offense took the field. On a third down and six yards to go, Rams quarterback Jared Goff dropped back to pass. This video shows the play, in full, beginning at the 1:45 mark.

Noteboom goes boom

Center Brian Allen chose to double team with the right guard, letting the blitzing A-gap linebacker Kwon Alexander through. Running back Malcolm Brown picked him up. Meanwhile, Joseph Noteboom engaged defensive end Ronald Blair as Andrew Whitworth engaged Nick Bosa. Allen then pivoted and shoved Alexander to the ground, behind Noteboom. Noteboom tripped over Alexander, injuring his knee and ending his season.

The LA Rams running game failed to gain 100 yards on the ground for the following four games, It was not until the Rams designed a running game with TE Johnny Mundt lining up in the backfield that the Rams were able to run over 100 yards once more. Before that injury, the LA Rams were 3-1. The Rams would only go 6-6 for the rest of the season.

Dominoes effect

That is not to assign blame for the injury that benched Noteboom last season. But it does demonstrate that the Rams running game, while it struggled last season, had better than a 120 yards average per game in the three season-opening victories. While Joseph Noteboom only graded out as 39.6 for 2019 by Pro Football Focus, he was a very impressive 70.7 the previous season.

The offensive line is more of a unit than a single player. The Rams struggled to pick up A-Gap blitzes. That struggle forced both guards – Noteboom and Austin Blythe – to turn inwards. That in turn forced the offensive tackles to lean inwards as well. A dominoes effect that plagued the Rams all season.

Noteboom needed for Rams running game

Noteboom is a solid offensive guard because he can get a push on running plays, and he is pretty good at pulling to be a lead blocker for inside runs. This year, he will be even better because, in his own words, he’s “lost weight” and “gained strength”. That’s pretty good for a player who is coming back from a reconstructed knee. And the 6-foot-5 306-pound offensive lineman is eager to show his stuff this year. Keep in mind that he runs a 4.96-second 40-yard dash. He’s big, he’s strong, and he’s incredibly fast.

And he’s back for another season.

Offensive linemen take time to develop. We pushed hard for a second chance for Joseph Noteboom months ago, simply because he deserves a chance to take charge at offensive line. In fact, the devastating adversity he endured last season may be the energy to propel him into one of the better young offensive linemen this year.

Rams athletic department deserves some credit

The Rams’ athletic staff, some of the best in the NFL, worked tirelessly with Noteboom to get him back to full health. It worked for Cooper Kupp in 2019. Now, it will work for Joseph Noteboom and Micah Kiser this year. Not just by rehabilitating an injured joint of an NFL player. But the group restores the player’s confidence, the love for the game, and the positive outlook necessary to train and drill over and over.

Joseph Noteboom is back, and he’s better than ever. Head coach Sean McVay thinks he looks comfortable, healthy, very explosive and strong. Two things matter for Noteboom this year. (A) – what the coaches think and (B) – how well he plays. Not mincing words, the Rams offensive line kinda stunk up the joint last season. But now, the team can take a breath, diagnose last year’s difficulties, and plan methods to overcome those challenges.

He’s back and bad-assed!

Joseph Noteboom is back, and better than ever. He’s not a loud young man. He’s not a shouter. He’s intelligent, he’s well-spoken, he’s confident, and as you listen to him talk about training camp so far, you can feel the positive mojo. If the Rams can put together a solid performance from this offensive line, the season will be a lot of fun. Noteboom is far better than expected right now. If the Rams can get the same out of Rob Havenstein, the offensive line could be significantly improved.

Noteboom has lost 15 pounds. He’s ripped. And while he still acquiesces to the “wherever the coach puts me” role that he is given, this is no longer a wide-eyed young man. Some may have closed off their minds to a comeback season for him. We haven’t. In fact, we expect it. Great players are not players who never fail. Great players are those that get back up stronger than ever.

That’s a perfect description of what left guard Joseph Noteboom has demonstrated so far this season.
 

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Center Brian Allen chose to double team with the right guard, letting the blitzing A-gap linebacker Kwon Alexander through. Running back Malcolm Brown picked him up. Meanwhile, Joseph Noteboom engaged defensive end Ronald Blair as Andrew Whitworth engaged Nick Bosa. Allen then pivoted and shoved Alexander to the ground, behind Noteboom. Noteboom tripped over Alexander, injuring his knee and ending his season.

not exactly. he shoved him straight into noteboom's lower leg. a totally unnecessary act as brown had the rusher in control.

they've been doing this their whole lives. you'd think he'd have the awareness to see what would happen if he pushed the rusher sideways to the ground.

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Not what I saw. I saw Noteboom getting beat time after time, and nothing in this article about his replacement, Jamal Demby, who was even worse.

Scratching my head that Noteboom is back at LG with the ones, and Demby starting at RT with the twos.
 

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Not what I saw. I saw Noteboom getting beat time after time, and nothing in this article about his replacement, Jamal Demby, who was even worse.

Scratching my head that Noteboom is back at LG with the ones, and Demby starting at RT with the twos.

There’s always next year.
 

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What is funny about that article is acting like a guy who was a pass pro specialist was instrumental to the run game.

But gonna wait and see. Who knows, maybe Boom worked his ass off and is ready now.
 

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The problem for me is, in my mind I keep comparing anybody we stick in there to Saffold. That never goes well.
 

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The problem for me is, in my mind I keep comparing anybody we stick in there to Saffold. That never goes well.
Rams decided they couldn’t afford Saffold. Corbett may be a very good pickup at OG but i still feel we are missing a LOT and OC to advance this team’s OL beyond this year.
 

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Rams decided they couldn’t afford Saffold. Corbett may be a very good pickup at OG but i still feel we are missing a LOT and OC to advance this team’s OL beyond this year.

WTF? It’s 2020,not 2021

There is still time & players develop

My question would be,want would have happened without Whitworth & Blythe this season?
 

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Also one other thing of note here, just irt the basic strengths of our current starting 5...

Whit: pass pro is his strength. He struggled much more in the run i.e. with the physicality side in 2019 which makes some sense given his cardio approach to sustain that longevity. He may bounce back of course, but just looking at last season he dipped considerably in the run game.

Boom: pass pro is his strength. He may have had a miraculous offseason in which he pulled an SJD and got a lot stronger and I hope that's the case. But looking just at last season the physicality was his weakness and an extension of that were his struggles in the run game.

Blythe: line calls are his strength. He isn't really good at run or pass blocking.

Corbett: pass pro is his strength. This guy has struggled with his run game since he came into the league and it's why he came available to us. Like with Boom who knows maybe he'll turn a corner in that run game but gonna need to see that.

Hav: run blocking is his strength. He's always been a plus run game dude who just survives in pass sets with his size.

Looking at this group overall it appears we will probably struggle running the ball.
 

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The problem for me is, in my mind I keep comparing anybody we stick in there to Saffold. That never goes well.

Remember Rodger's first few years here? Always hurting his shoulder, didn't really find his groove until moving to guard some time later.

The amount of vitriol he got from the criticism police is drawing some parallels here today. Just saying.
 

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Remember Rodger's first few years here? Always hurting his shoulder, didn't really find his groove until moving to guard some time later.

The amount of vitriol he got from the criticism police is drawing some parallels here today. Just saying.
That's a poor comp IMO. Saff may have gotten injured more frequently than we liked, however he always showed well on the field in games when he was available.

Also I don't see any criticism police. Just fans concerned with the OL as usual and bored as fuck/trying to talk football.
 

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Interesting angle there.


"Two things matter for Noteboom this year. (A) – what the coaches think and (B) – how well he plays."

Kromer appears to be doing with (A) what I hoped he would do in a shortened preseason: pick his starters early on and roll with them to maximize their playing time together.

Of course, the possible downside is (B): if Kromer has picked the wrong guys to start (Noteboom?) the strategy won't really work correctly.
 

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Looking at this group overall it appears we will probably struggle running the ball.
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It is a fair one too I think. Do you have an actual opinion to allow for further discussion or is the extent of your opinion to try to shit on anyone who doesn't clap along on every single fucking thing the team does.
 

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That's a poor comp IMO. Saff may have gotten injured more frequently than we liked, however he always showed well on the field in games when he was available.

Also I don't see any criticism police. Just fans concerned with the OL as usual and bored as fuck/trying to talk football.

How so? When he was an OT it's not like he was a stud then, until he found his calling as a guard. Took a few years to get to that level too since he had his pec and both shoulders operated. All while operating under a coaching staffs who's best single season was 8-8. People were calling for him to be cut because he "couldn't be relied upon to stay healthy". Whatever the hell that means.

Joe gets a freak injury after 6 total games and people want to bench him or draft his replacement. He should get a chance to play more than 6 games, and let a coaching staff that assembled a roster whose worst season is 9-7 so far develop him.
 

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How so? When he was an OT it's not like he was a stud then, until he found his calling as a guard. Took a few years to get to that level too since he had his pec and both shoulders operated. All while operating under a coaching staffs who's best single season was 8-8. People were calling for him to be cut because he "couldn't be relied upon to stay healthy". Whatever the hell that means.

Joe gets a freak injury after 6 total games and people want to bench him or draft his replacement. He should get a chance to play more than 6 games, and let a coaching staff that assembled a roster whose worst season is 9-7 so far develop him.

Saffold has been a borderline pro-bowl player for many years, and even early in his career was an average NFL starter at worst. He never looked completely lost or got dominated like Noteboom did last year. Yes he battled injuries early with his shoulders, but he was already a good player and started 16 games as a rookie. Noteboom couldn't even find the field as a rookie. After sitting his entire rookie season preparing to play guard, in his first starting opportunity he had a horrible year. It wasn't even close to being an average NFL player. Entering year 3 we still have no clue if he can play at the NFL level.

He's being asked to play out of his natural position, and is coming back from a bad ACL + MCL tear. It's surprising to me that some people question the concern regarding him starting. Especially when the o-line was the cause of the teams downfall last year.
 

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How so? When he was an OT it's not like he was a stud then, until he found his calling as a guard. Took a few years to get to that level too since he had his pec and both shoulders operated. All while operating under a coaching staffs who's best single season was 8-8. People were calling for him to be cut because he "couldn't be relied upon to stay healthy". Whatever the hell that means.

Joe gets a freak injury after 6 total games and people want to bench him or draft his replacement. He should get a chance to play more than 6 games, and let a coaching staff that assembled a roster whose worst season is 9-7 so far develop him.
Mach answered that quite well above.

And I haven't seen one person who wants Boom benched because he was injured. It's doubt about him being a starter because he played poorly in year one. Where the injury comes in is it prevented him from improving down the stretch which he may have done.

As to the doubt about him coming off major surgery and rehab and actually being stronger, I think that's a fair take. Don't you? And if not, why not. Isn't that a lot better than making generalizations about "people" who don't share your view?
 

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Saffold has been a borderline pro-bowl player for many years, and even early in his career was an average NFL starter at worst. He never looked completely lost or got dominated like Noteboom did last year. Yes he battled injuries early with his shoulders, but he was already a good player and started 16 games as a rookie. Noteboom couldn't even find the field as a rookie. After sitting his entire rookie season preparing to play guard, in his first starting opportunity he had a horrible year. It wasn't even close to being an average NFL player. Entering year 3 we still have no clue if he can play at the NFL level.

He's being asked to play out of his natural position, and is coming back from a bad ACL + MCL tear. It's surprising to me that some people question the concern regarding him starting. Especially when the o-line was the cause of the teams downfall last year.

That's all well and good, but I can counter it with the opposite. Again, 6 total games a career does not make. He has proven teachers to develop him. Also, the downfall of the OL mostly happened AFTER he went out, due to a number of other factors as well.

I'm not saying it's a foregone conclusion that Joe Noteboom is gonna be a stud. What I'm saying is that he should be given a chance. This current staff drafted him, and obviously like him enough to keep him around and not get his replacement like some on the internet clamor for.

Let. Him. Develop.
 

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Mach answered that quite well above.

And I haven't seen one person who wants Boom benched because he was injured. It's doubt about him being a starter because he played poorly in year one. Where the injury comes in is it prevented him from improving down the stretch which he may have done.

As to the doubt about him coming off major surgery and rehab and actually being stronger, I think that's a fair take. Don't you? And if not, why not. Isn't that a lot better than making generalizations about "people" who don't share your view?

And why are we doubting after a year which comprised of 6 games? Shouldn't he be given a fair shot to play? Yes, I do make generalizations b/c I've read posts for almost a year about from the *internet* majority how the team didn't do anything about the OL. Yet the GM and coaches didn't follow those views. It's pretty obvious how the folks in charge with assembling the roster feel about the group, and I'm putting my trust in them rather than what fans see.

I don't worry about injuries. We see ACLs pop all the time in the NFL and almost every player comes back from it. It's a norm now.