XFL - Vince McMahon is gonna try it again

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/26/how-could-the-xfl-fit-a-full-game-within-two-hours/

How could the XFL fit a full game within two hours?

One of the most fascinating aspects of the planned return of the XFL in two years comes from proprietor Vince McMahon’s goal of staging a full game within two hours.

That would be a significant accomplishment, but it also would require major changes to the way the clock is operated — if the game will continue to consist of four 15-minute quarters.

McMahon mentioned during the conference call that ended up being a streamed online call-in show that the XFL may eliminate halftime. It may not have to come to that, especially since killing halftime means taking away the natural 12-minute break that encourages fans to spend money on food and drink.

The easiest way to trim a full hour from the XFL experience would be to use a running clock until the final five or two minutes of a half. The clock, for example, would keep moving during each possession, pausing only after a score, punt, or turnover.

Another alternative would be to treat incomplete passes the same way the NFL currently treats plays that end up out of bounds, with the clock stopping until the ball is ready for play. But that alone may not be enough to fit a full game into two hours.

Ultimately, the right combination could be a running clock, until the final five or two minutes of the half, coupled with a shortened play clock that essentially forces teams to run a two-minute drill for the full 60 minutes of clock time. Which would definitely hold the audience in place — and it would definitely create old-school football in one very important way: The quarterback would end up calling the plays.

However it all plays out, this is one of the various intriguing aspects of a league that, if current plans proceed as expected, will launch exactly two years from today.
 

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Maybe they can go extreme safety.

Make it a flag league.

45 and over only. 7 on 7.

Think of all the talent. Warner, Favre, Manning

Worst team gets to draft Brady in a few years.

I’m so brilliant.
 

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Maybe they can go extreme safety.

Make it a flag league.

45 and over only. 7 on 7.

Think of all the talent. Warner, Favre, Manning

Worst team gets to draft Brady in a few years.

I’m so brilliant.
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I would have it written into every players contract that they understand the physical & long term risks and effects (CTE, etc), and that they take full responsibility for their choice to play. I would make them all sit through training classes on the risks. Then I would not have any of the safety related rules that we all hate. No one is forcing them to risk their bodies, but if they chose to, then so be it, it is their decision. I would have the old school football rules, with all the hits that some of us grew up watching. None of this helmet to helmet penalty nonsense. Let them be gladiators, if they so choose.

Of course, if I was in charge of the NFL, starting yesterday, I would have had that language written into every new contract. But that is just me. Everybody knows the risks now, or at least the information is out there now.

Just my opinion, but that's a TERRIBLE idea.

Players are already expected to know the liability they take on in football. The big CTE issue in court has to deal with the period of 2 years or so when the NFL KNEW and had proof of a causal connection between concussive and sub-concussive impacts and CTE and refused to divulge that information to incoming rookies so that they couldn't make an informed decision.

As for "letting them be gladiators", you're setting up the death of the sport. Moms, for the most part, determine if their kids play a sport. If the XFL becomes Thunderdome and we see tons of guys being carted off, that stink will taint the NFL and we'll see the death of the sport. We're already seeing colleges having issues with recruiting because some of the poorer neighborhoods that used to churn out pretty good players can't afford the insurance and have dropped their football programs. And other than in the South where football is a way of life, there are whole talent pools drying up as we speak in the West and Midwest where a large percentage of players come from.

What they should do is make leading with the helmet illegal. Simple. You tackle with your shoulder or you get a flag. You make the call quickly and decisively and then restart play.

They don't have these issues in Rugby because it'd be suicide to play the way football players play.

The way forward, imho, isn't to turn the XFL into a blood sport but to do what MMA did and have simple rules which protect the fighters AND force a focus on skill and execution of technique.

What the XFL needs to do is to flag helmet to helmet if the defender lead with their helmet. Work out the online aspect so that they have an app that's closer to the MLB app than any nonsense the NFL offers so that they can be a digital leader with younger fans. Lastly, they need to (and almost certainly will) have full-time refs that are expected to call the game the same way no matter what city they're in.

With uniform calls for penalties, an emphasis on safety and digital innovation, the XFL could really force the NFL to make the changes we all want.

But seriously, the "let 'em go old school and crush one another" while viscerally satisfying for a moment would almost literally be the worst idea (short of allowing sharpened metal spikes on the shoulder pads).
 

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Just my opinion, but that's a TERRIBLE idea.

Players are already expected to know the liability they take on in football. The big CTE issue in court has to deal with the period of 2 years or so when the NFL KNEW and had proof of a causal connection between concussive and sub-concussive impacts and CTE and refused to divulge that information to incoming rookies so that they couldn't make an informed decision.

As for "letting them be gladiators", you're setting up the death of the sport. Moms, for the most part, determine if their kids play a sport. If the XFL becomes Thunderdome and we see tons of guys being carted off, that stink will taint the NFL and we'll see the death of the sport. We're already seeing colleges having issues with recruiting because some of the poorer neighborhoods that used to churn out pretty good players can't afford the insurance and have dropped their football programs. And other than in the South where football is a way of life, there are whole talent pools drying up as we speak in the West and Midwest where a large percentage of players come from.

What they should do is make leading with the helmet illegal. Simple. You tackle with your shoulder or you get a flag. You make the call quickly and decisively and then restart play.

They don't have these issues in Rugby because it'd be suicide to play the way football players play.

The way forward, imho, isn't to turn the XFL into a blood sport but to do what MMA did and have simple rules which protect the fighters AND force a focus on skill and execution of technique.

What the XFL needs to do is to flag helmet to helmet if the defender lead with their helmet. Work out the online aspect so that they have an app that's closer to the MLB app than any nonsense the NFL offers so that they can be a digital leader with younger fans. Lastly, they need to (and almost certainly will) have full-time refs that are expected to call the game the same way no matter what city they're in.

With uniform calls for penalties, an emphasis on safety and digital innovation, the XFL could really force the NFL to make the changes we all want.

But seriously, the "let 'em go old school and crush one another" while viscerally satisfying for a moment would almost literally be the worst idea (short of allowing sharpened metal spikes on the shoulder pads).

Your first paragraph is kind of making my point. Allow these ADULTS to decide for themselves if they want to take the job. Every job has risks, and that is part of what helps us decide to take the job or not. Is the pay worth the job in total (including risks). The CTE problem, as you point out, is that they hid what they knew. I am saying the opposite, make sure they all understand.

I am just telling you what I would like to see. You have a different take on it great. You think my idea is TERRIBLE, so be it, I am just telling you what I would like to see, and one way they could do it. The players are gladiators. They sacrifice their bodies (Not just their heads) every time they walk out on the field. They get paid handsomely to do it.

Your last paragraph is a touch over the top. "almost literally be the worst idea (short of allowing sharpened metal spike on the shoulder pads)", WOW, that is an extreme take on it, but whatever. I bet you a large percentage of the people on this forum would love to see a football league where they are allowed to hit like they used to. In fact, that is one of the biggest complaints about the modern game/rules (That and the length/# of commercial breaks).
 

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Hey maybe shitbag can get a job now and stop bitching?
 

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Your first paragraph is kind of making my point. Allow these ADULTS to decide for themselves if they want to take the job. Every job has risks, and that is part of what helps us decide to take the job or not. Is the pay worth the job in total (including risks). The CTE problem, as you point out, is that they hid what they knew. I am saying the opposite, make sure they all understand.

I am just telling you what I would like to see. You have a different take on it great. You think my idea is TERRIBLE, so be it, I am just telling you what I would like to see, and one way they could do it. The players are gladiators. They sacrifice their bodies (Not just their heads) every time they walk out on the field. They get paid handsomely to do it.

Your last paragraph is a touch over the top. "almost literally be the worst idea (short of allowing sharpened metal spike on the shoulder pads)", WOW, that is an extreme take on it, but whatever. I bet you a large percentage of the people on this forum would love to see a football league where they are allowed to hit like they used to. In fact, that is one of the biggest complaints about the modern game/rules (That and the length/# of commercial breaks).

I think that would work right up until the moment somebody dies on the field. It won't matter how many classes you gave on CTE, or how many waivers you made the players sign, having somebody die in front of a live TV audience would be the death-knell, no pun intended, not just of the XFL, but possibly football as well. I get that people have already died playing this sport, but not in front of the crowds the XFL is hoping to get. Coming right out and saying "we don't care about the safety issues, the players know the risks?" And then having somebody pay the ultimate price, right there on TV and forever on YouTube?

Yeah, I don't see that flying to well with Mom & Pop America.