With the 199th pick in the NFL draft the Los Angeles Rams select Jordan Fuller, S Ohio State

[…..]

Probably the most disappointing draft of the McVay/Snead era. Not only did we draft for positions that I thought could’ve been made way later in the draft, but we got guys who weren’t even on anyone’s radars. Again, gonna trust those guys that they know what they’re doing but I can’t help but come away from this draft completely puzzled and disappointed. There’s just not a lot to get excited about when it feels like every team in the NFC West made improvements across the board except us. If we had gotten Trent, maybe it’s all a different story. Regardless, I’m anticipating a bumpy semi-rebuild of a year with many learning curves to hopefully put us in a good position to battle for the crown in 2021.

Between the goddamn coronavirus, the logo/uniform change, Gurley AND Cooks gone, and NOW this lackluster (on paper, jury is out for some time) draft, I’ve never been more frustrated as a Rams fan. Trust me I’ll take these days over Spags or Linehan but until it’s proven, I just can’t envision us being all that great this year. 2020 has been a colossal failure.

We got a couple in day 2 well past their rankings though....if that can be a positive to those of us looking for positives. Value for those picks.

 

[RamsFanCK]

Really smart, high character.

ST contributor but could be a solid backup. I mocked him to us.

To me this could mean that either Burgess plays CB or Rapp plays more LB.

So Rapp would become littleton’s replacement kinda?

 

[Classic Rams]

Probably the most disappointing draft of the McVay/Snead era. Not only did we draft for positions that I thought could’ve been made way later in the draft, but we got guys who weren’t even on anyone’s radars. Again, gonna trust those guys that they know what they’re doing but I can’t help but come away from this draft completely puzzled and disappointed. There’s just not a lot to get excited about when it feels like every team in the NFC West made improvements across the board except us. If we had gotten Trent, maybe it’s all a different story. Regardless, I’m anticipating a bumpy semi-rebuild of a year with many learning curves to hopefully put us in a good position to battle for the crown in 2021.

Between the goddamn coronavirus, the logo/uniform change, Gurley AND Cooks gone, and NOW this lackluster (on paper, jury is out for some time) draft, I’ve never been more frustrated as a Rams fan. Trust me I’ll take these days over Spags or Linehan but until it’s proven, I just can’t envision us being all that great this year. 2020 has been a colossal failure.

Don't forget the sudden resurgence of the whiners and their amazing draft. :explode:

 

[1maGoh]

Probably the most disappointing draft of the McVay/Snead era. Not only did we draft for positions that I thought could’ve been made way later in the draft, but we got guys who weren’t even on anyone’s radars. Again, gonna trust those guys that they know what they’re doing but I can’t help but come away from this draft completely puzzled and disappointed. There’s just not a lot to get excited about when it feels like every team in the NFC West made improvements across the board except us. If we had gotten Trent, maybe it’s all a different story. Regardless, I’m anticipating a bumpy semi-rebuild of a year with many learning curves to hopefully put us in a good position to battle for the crown in 2021.

Between the goddamn coronavirus, the logo/uniform change, Gurley AND Cooks gone, and NOW this lackluster (on paper, jury is out for some time) draft, I’ve never been more frustrated as a Rams fan. Trust me I’ll take these days over Spags or Linehan but until it’s proven, I just can’t envision us being all that great this year. 2020 has been a colossal failure.

Thank you for making this year's obligatory "Every got better but us" post. The parts at the end where you mention current events is a really nice touch. Most years somebody just copy/pastes the post from the year before and that's it. Well done man.

 

[Varg6]

Thank you for making this year's obligatory "Every got better but us" post. The parts at the end where you mention current events is a really nice touch. Most years somebody just copy/pastes the post from the year before and that's it. Well done man.

Haha! I know. I probably overreacted.

Look, I hope I am dead wrong about everything I said. TRUST ME.

On one hand I love that McVay is building the roster he envisions, and he's trusting his process (i.e. ultimately gambling on an OL that was lackluster; although I'll admit they did improve toward the end of the year). He's taking some offensive weapons that fit his scheme better.

But the other part of me leaves me scratching my head because we could've maybe solved more problems, in my mind, by keeping Gurley and Cooks; despite their salaries. I'm no expert and again I am trusting McVay + Snead know best, but considering the amount of money paid to them, I would've liked to see what they could do in a comeback year, which I think both have a good chance of accomplishing this year (assuming we even have a season).

So, despite the above, and despite the horrible and hideous logo change (which I think is disgraceful because the horns are a classic staple of the franchise; akin to the Steelers and Cowboys logos. Leave them be.), I had a different idea of how things would go with the draft, and I simply had a different idea of what "good" looks like. I was thinking we'd at least bolster a few other areas of concern: mainly the OL.

For example, I understand they are probably looking toward the inevitable departure of one our TEs, which is totally fair, I'm just personally surprised by some of the moves we made. I would've liked to see a higher profile OL picked.

Regardless, as we all do, I hope these draft picks are slam dunks and we'll be saying Gurley, Cooks...who?

 

[TexasRam]

Probably the most disappointing draft of the McVay/Snead era. Not only did we draft for positions that I thought could’ve been made way later in the draft, but we got guys who weren’t even on anyone’s radars. Again, gonna trust those guys that they know what they’re doing but I can’t help but come away from this draft completely puzzled and disappointed. There’s just not a lot to get excited about when it feels like every team in the NFC West made improvements across the board except us. If we had gotten Trent, maybe it’s all a different story. Regardless, I’m anticipating a bumpy semi-rebuild of a year with many learning curves to hopefully put us in a good position to battle for the crown in 2021.

Between the goddamn coronavirus, the logo/uniform change, Gurley AND Cooks gone, and NOW this lackluster (on paper, jury is out for some time) draft, I’ve never been more frustrated as a Rams fan. Trust me I’ll take these days over Spags or Linehan but until it’s proven, I just can’t envision us being all that great this year. 2020 has been a colossal failure.

The cycle will be complete when the new Uniforms come out with a Vagina symbol to balance out the penis logo.

But it should start getting better once we complete the series of unfortunate events cycle.

 

[SoCalRam78]

Rams are going to run a lot of nickel with 3 safeties and Rapp in the box. Hence why another ILB wasn’t of much value. Burgess is going to be their center fielder.

 

[Ram65]

Rams are going to run a lot of nickel with 3 safeties and Rapp in the box. Hence why another ILB wasn’t of much value. Burgess is going to be their center fielder.

Is Rapp considered one of the three safeties?

 

[den-the-coach]

I'm surprised we picked him over J.R. Reed. Must like him as a deep safety. IDK.

He's smart and hits hard, but he did not progress like the others in that extraordinary secondary. Team Captain and Academic All American, he's a hitter (did I post that already) and tackles well. That's all I have.

 

[TheTackle]

He's smart and hits hard, but he did not progress like the others in that extraordinary secondary. Team Captain and Academic All American, he's a hitter (did I post that already) and tackles well. That's all I have.

I just wonder if he played through his recovery from injury? They obviously liked the tape from 2018 enough to spin the dice.

Snead loves to pick a player who tested badly when he has the inside track on an injury. Fuller was a highly sought after athletic recruit. As a two time team captain, did he play, despite not being 100%? Could be... if so, this could be an absolute steal

The injury was undisclosed: ‘I’m basically doing everything but just at a lower capacity,” Fuller said. “The stuff I don’t do, I’m making it up with like an hour-and-a-half rehab.”

Great article for those interested

Jordan Fuller Ready to Get Back on the Field, Preparing for Senior Season After Missing Spring with Injury

Ohio State safety Jordan Fuller was unable to practice this spring due to injury, but he's getting closer to fully healthy now as he looks forward to his final season as a Buckeye.

www.google.co.uk

 

[DR RAM]

He's smart and hits hard, but he did not progress like the others in that extraordinary secondary. Team Captain and Academic All American, he's a hitter (did I post that already) and tackles well. That's all I have.

He has good explosion, great body control, and can cover TE’s. If he was .2 faster, he’d be a 1st rounder. Plays well in space, and zone, not bad long speed. My prob with him, he commits so hard, so confident, he underestimates other guys speed, and can miss, because of that.

He’s a hybrid, and we seem to be drafting for that, based on our new, DC. There is a connection there, I promise.

 

[Corbin]

Hey he'll be a great back safety for Rapp and JJ. If they go down again this year like JJ did last year rather have this guy back there than some guy named Gervaise or whatever it is.

Good value pick.

 

[Merlin]

He's gonna be a special teams guy (if he makes the roster lol) and a depth option when they are playing two safeties over the top. We're gonna mix in more zone and more two deep looks so why not take a guy who fits that, how it looks to me at least.

Put this guy alone as a single high and he'd look like Joyner did. But in half field looks he can probably help us.

 

[DR RAM]

He's gonna be a special teams guy (if he makes the roster lol) and a depth option when they are playing two safeties over the top. We're gonna mix in more zone and more two deep looks so why not take a guy who fits that, how it looks to me at least.

Put this guy alone as a single high and he'd look like Joyner did. But in half field looks he can probably help us.

Yeah, that’s it. Agree.

With our new D we are looking for zone, slot, and specific, RB, and TE coverage,

 

[8to12]

Rams are going to run a lot of nickel with 3 safeties and Rapp in the box. Hence why another ILB wasn’t of much value. Burgess is going to be their center fielder.

Yes, they will play the "Big Nickel" in many situations with 3 Safeties. But, I bet it changed up here and there. I believe they like Terrell's ability to play the slot. So, he may be in on certain groupings playing the Slot with David Long out or playing on the outside with Rapp and Johnson back. Or, they may have Rapp up on the lOS with Johnson and Burgess playing a Cover 2 shell. Either way, I feel the Rams have the best secondary in the NFC West now. Can't wait to see these guys in action.

 

[den-the-coach]

He’s a hybrid, and we seem to be drafting for that, based on our new, DC. There is a connection there, I promise.

Also he'll be great on special teams and if he adds 20lbs, like you posted, he could move up to LB.

 

[TheTackle]

I think Fuller could be one of the steals of the draft

"Big, strong and he's just one of the smartest players I've ever been around, and I'd say that applies to any level I have coached. How quickly he's able to see things, pick things up, communicate, how hard he works," Hafley [Ohio's Defensive Coordinator] said. "I was up in the booth for the season so I could see everything and get the calls in, and Jordan was on the field, so between every series, I'd give him the head set and I'd go over the adjustments with him, and he'd go over all of it with the DBs. I'd ask him what he sees, I'd tell him what I'd see, and it was like having a coach out there. Jordan's the type of guy, he's going to let your DB coach sleep well at night. He's gonna be in the right spot. He's gonna get you into the right defense. He's such a good open field tackler and he's just always in the right spot. Of all those great players out on the field for us last season, Jordan's the one that, we said, 'Man, if this kid goes down, we're not gonna be the same defense,' and that's all the intangibles and how in control he was back there."

Read the rest here, its a good read

NFL Draft: Jordan Fuller bringing 'Jersey grit' from Ohio State to pros, and maybe back home

Jordan Fuller is a top safety prospect at the Combine, and he'll meet with NY Giants, who could ultimately bring him back home to North Jersey.

eu.northjersey.com

I quote, 'If there’s one thing quarterbacks had in common when facing Ohio State, it’s that they stayed away from Fuller’s area. According to Pro Football Focus, Fuller was targeted only once per 32 coverage snaps, which was the best rate among all safeties last season. Still, Fuller managed to come down with two interceptions and four passes defensed despite having very few passes thrown his way'.

5 things to know about Jordan Fuller, whose uncle is Sinbad

The Rams drafted Jordan Fuller in the sixth round, who’s a heady player with a high character.

theramswire.usatoday.com

 

[shovelpass]

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/30/nfl-draft-rams-jordan-fuller-texts-mcvay-snead/


McVay and Snead got texts from coaches, GMs about Jordan Fuller pick
Cameron DaSilva


Despite taking a safety in the third round, the Los Angeles Rams circled back to the position on Day 3 by selecting Jordan Fuller out of Ohio State. He joins fellow rookie Terrell Burgess as the newest safeties in the secondary, backing up starters Taylor Rapp and John Johnson.
It may have seemed illogical for the Rams to take two safeties with Rapp and Johnson already as the starters, but they couldn’t pass up the chance to add a leader like Fuller. He’s a two-time captain and an Academic All-American, which piqued the interest of Les Snead and Sean McVay.
“We had done a safety earlier. These two are different skill sets,” Snead said on SiriusXM NFL Radio this week. “Terrell could go down and do an element of nickel. Jordan’s probably more of your old school free on the backend. Did a nice job tackling and we felt like it definitely matched up with a lot of Taylor Rapp’s and John Johnson’s skill set. So couldn’t pass on Jordan based on a lot of things.”
They weren’t the only ones who were intrigued by Fuller, either. Snead said he and McVay got texts from other coaches and GMs after the Rams drafted Fuller, complimenting them on the pick.
“He’s one of those guys where it’s always like, you know you picked a football favorite when it’s the sixth round and you make a pick and whether it’s Sean was sharing with me head coaches texting him, ‘Hey, love that pick.’ Same with myself, GMs and personnel guys: ‘Hey, love that pick,’” Snead said. “What’s always interesting when you’re getting those, you like that, right? A little confirmation bias. ‘OK, we made the right pick, this is good.’ But then you’re looking like, why is he still in the sixth round?”


To answer Snead’s last question, it has to do with Fuller’s limited potential due to his athleticism. While he’s a smart player who’s good at diagnosing plays, he doesn’t have the speed to consistently patrol the deep middle as a true free safety. He ran a 4.67 40-yard dash, which isn’t a terrible time, but it did hurt his stock a bit.
That being said, his football intelligence is off the charts and undoubtedly his best trait.
“Take the football player out of it and he was probably up there as definitely one of the gold medalists in terms of football intangibles going into this draft,” Snead said. “And we always try to rank the guys that seem to be – a lot of players are in the ‘A’ range, but this guy was fighting for that valedictorian spot in terms of football intangibles.”
Fuller will have to fight for a roster spot first on special teams before he gets a chance to contribute on defense. Rapp and Johnson will be the starter for at least next season, with Burgess likely as the No. 3 and nickel back. But in 2021, Johnson will be a free agent, and it’s possible the team will continue its trend of letting its homegrown defensive backs walk.
If that’s the case, Fuller could have a chance to be the future at free safety in L.A.