Will Cooper Kupp's "Knees" be dependable?

[Ballhawk]

I think that we need a deep threat WR, from somewhere, no matter want anyone thinks about Kupp's knees!

 

[nighttrain]

I think that we need a deep threat WR, from somewhere, no matter want anyone thinks about Kupp's knees!

two, a vet and a draft choice
train

 

[PARAM]

lol guys are cracking me up... out of the last 34 games we have played... including the playoffs

he has played 32....

so 32 out of 34 games he has played since his ACL injury.

and one of those games was covid.

so were looking at count covid.. 94% of the games he has played in last two years.

If you just go by injuries 97% of the games he has played in the past two years.

this narrative is a fallacy.

Fallacy is a pretty strong word. Has he been injured? Yes. Has he missed games? Yes. Half a season in 2018 and a couple of games in 2020. In 4 years with the Rams he's played 56 out of a possible 69 games; 32 of the last 34. Great.

Todd Gurley played 48 our of 51 from 2017-2019 before he was released. Of course I'm not saying release Kupp. But like most on here, getting some insurance would be prudent.

 

[MachS]

Don't be in denial. His knees have an injury history. Does it matter if it was the left or right?

Call it a fluke but I'm not comfortable with Woods, Kupp and Van Jefferson as their only veteran WR's heading into the 2021 season

We'll add at least 1 solid WR this offseason you can count on it. But I'm in the camp that we should look to trade Kupp. Insane 4-year usage in college has taken its toll on his body. He gets nicked up every year and it seems to happen late in the season when we need him most, and he ends up missing our biggest games. Kupp, Woods, and Jefferson are all similar type WRs in terms of skill set. I think Kupp would have legit interest around the league as a very good slot WR, and clearing the cap space would allow us to sign a bigger WR FA, trade for one, or move up in the draft to get one we like.

 

[Ellard80]

Fallacy is a pretty strong word. Has he been injured? Yes. Has he missed games? Yes. Half a season in 2018 and a couple of games in 2020. In 4 years with the Rams he's played 56 out of a possible 69 games; 32 of the last 34. Great.

Todd Gurley played 48 our of 51 from 2017-2019 before he was released. Of course I'm not saying release Kupp. But like most on here, getting some insurance would be prudent.

for one this thread started off as he had a bad knee... but now its shifted to he is "injury prone" which i just dont agree with.

If you look around the league... there are a lot of top end players missing games like kupp...

Devante Adams has missed 9 games the last 4 years... shit issac bruce missed like 20 games his first 5 years.

in 9 seasons julio jones has only played 16 games 3 times... he has played single digit games like twice. Adam thelien has missed 6 games the last two year. Tyreek hill has missed 5
The list goes on and on... kupp isn't injury prone. odel beckam? now he is injury prone.

 

[PARAM]

for one this thread started off as he had a bad knee... but now its shifted to he is "injury prone" which i just dont agree with.

If you look around the league... there are a lot of top end players missing games like kupp...

Devante Adams has missed 9 games the last 4 years... shit issac bruce missed like 20 games his first 5 years.

in 9 seasons julio jones has only played 16 games 3 times... he has played single digit games like twice.

The list goes on and on... kupp isn't injury prone.

Blame Gurley!!!

I don't think anybody is saying Kupp is injury prone. He blew out his ACL(?) in 2018 and since has played almost every game except for our last one. And like some said, it was a bruised knee not torn ligaments. Bruises happen. Ligaments are much worse. The Gurley sitch has many Ram fans concerned about Kupp. But all everybody is saying is, precautionary moves. Like having a good backup QB. Or RB. Or TE. Or OT. Or CB. There are 3 receivers who will play a lot of snaps so it would be wise to have a 4th (could be Trishton Jackson; could be Desean Jackson; could be both or it could be a draft pick...but I doubt that last one lest some unforseen stud falls to us late). It's just smart planning.

Watkins only missed the 16th game of 2017, like all the starters. Woods missed 3 games in 2017 (plus sat out gm#16 with everybody else) and 1 in 2019. Kupp missed 8 (plus the PS) in 2018, 1 in 2020 (plus our last ps game). Brandin Cooks missed 2 games in 2019. Reynolds missed 0 and it was nice to have a Josh Reynolds to fill in when those guys missed time. JR was extremely underrated and that happens when you're the 4th guy in all but 1 year. He's probably gone. So if he is, we have Kupp, Woods, Jefferson and who? Trishton Jackson? We still need another WR anyway. If TJ is going to be ready to contribute in 2021, I like the idea of getting DJ on the cheap....only on the cheap. Limited action, limited pay.

 

[Ellard80]

Blame Gurley!!!

I don't think anybody is saying Kupp is injury prone. He blew out his ACL(?) in 2018 and since has played almost every game except for our last one. And like some said, it was a bruised knee not torn ligaments. Bruises happen. Ligaments are much worse. The Gurley sitch has many Ram fans concerned about Kupp. But all everybody is saying is, precautionary moves. Like having a good backup QB. Or RB. Or TE. Or OT. Or CB. There are 3 receivers who will play a lot of snaps so it would be wise to have a 4th (could be Trishton Jackson; could be Desean Jackson; could be both or it could be a draft pick...but I doubt that last one lest some unforseen stud falls to us late). It's just smart planning.

Watkins only missed the 16th game of 2017, like all the starters. Woods missed 3 games in 2017 (plus sat out gm#16 with everybody else) and 1 in 2019. Kupp missed 8 (plus the PS) in 2018, 1 in 2020. Brandin Cooks missed 2 games in 2019. Reynolds missed 0 and it was nice to have a Josh Reynolds to fill in when those guys missed time. He's probably gone. So if he is, we have Kupp, Woods, Jefferson and who? Trishton Jackson? We still need another WR anyway. If TJ is going to be ready to contribute in 2021, I like the idea of getting DJ on the cheap....only on the cheap. Limited action, limited pay.

im okay with another reciever... i think we need some speed somewhere at WR. I've just seen a lot of "we need to trade kupp because he is oft injured posts" which just saying kupp really isn't any more injured than many of the top WR's.


sammy watkins after he left us can't stay healthy...missed like 14 games in 3 seasons.

 

[MachS]

for one this thread started off as he had a bad knee... but now its shifted to he is "injury prone" which i just dont agree with.

If you look around the league... there are a lot of top end players missing games like kupp...

Devante Adams has missed 9 games the last 4 years... shit issac bruce missed like 20 games his first 5 years.

in 9 seasons julio jones has only played 16 games 3 times... he has played single digit games like twice.

The list goes on and on... kupp isn't injury prone. odel beckam? now he is injury prone.

I personally wouldn't call him injury prone, that's Sam Bradford type shit. But Kupp does definitely get nicked up. Torn ACL in 2018, injured his wrist last year against Miami right before our bye week, then injured his knee against Seattle. Injuries have lead to him missing the 2 biggest games we've played in the McVay era. So you cant say injuries are not a factor at all.

People have to remember he played 4 years in college with an INSANELY high usage rate. 6,500 yards and 428 catches in 4 years at EWU. That's a lot of wear and tear on your body coming into the NFL. He's played four seasons in the NFL and is already 27yrs old, turning 28 in June. Whereas Robert Woods has played EIGHT seasons in the NFL already and is only 28 about to turn 29.

Kupp has a lot of value around the league and at $16M per year I wouldn't be against trading him if we could land a true #1 WR in FA or the draft somehow. I like Kupp a lot, but with all the blocking that McVay asks our WRs to do.. there is a higher probability he gets hurt in this offense versus others IMO. And that's exactly how he hurt his knee vs Seattle this year. Just blocking someone and the knee got tweaked and buckled.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

So you are content on having only 3 veteran proven WR's for Stafford to toss the ball around to. Van Jefferson is still green behind the ears.

Kupp has a legitimate injury history and Van Jefferson is going to be a second year WR.

Please enlighten me why McVay would be fine with the WR's on the depth chart as of today.

Because we can't afford it due to other holes on the roster. All the dead money we are carrying makes up prioritizing a WR that doesn't cost much if we go that route.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

I personally wouldn't call him injury prone, that's Sam Bradford type shit. But Kupp does definitely get nicked up. Torn ACL in 2018, injured his wrist last year against Miami right before our bye week, then injured his knee against Seattle. Injuries have lead to him missing the 2 biggest games we've played in the McVay era. So you cant say injuries are not a factor at all.

People have to remember he played 4 years in college with an INSANELY high usage rate. 6,500 yards and 428 catches in 4 years at EWU. That's a lot of wear and tear on your body coming into the NFL. He's played four seasons in the NFL and is already 27yrs old, turning 28 in June. Whereas Robert Woods has played EIGHT seasons in the NFL already and is only 28 about to turn 29.

Kupp has a lot of value around the league and at $16M per year I wouldn't be against trading him if we could land a true #1 WR in FA or the draft somehow. I like Kupp a lot, but with all the blocking that McVay asks our WRs to do.. there is a higher probability he gets hurt in this offense versus others IMO. And that's exactly how he hurt his knee vs Seattle this year. Just blocking someone and the knee got tweaked and buckled.

We aren't going to get a top flight or true #1 WR by trading Kupp away that doesn't have their own issues. Saying he gets nicked up is basically including everyone in the NFL. We just traded for an uber talented more nicked up QB too lol. Plus Kupp knows this offense in and out. Stafford going to have him and Woods shining so much you'll see he is a top flight WR.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Not sure that it was even the same knee.

Pointing this out does not give me any relief to the idea that Kupp(or any other player) might be injury-prone. "Two knees are better than one?" Idk man.

I'd like to believe that the Rams' medical team knows if he is or isn't. If he is i say strike while the iron is Hot and trade him now.

 

[Ballhawk]

Trading off your best receiver because he missed a couple of games in the last two years seems foolish. I'm glad this wasn't done in 98 when the Reverend Ike was having hamstring issues, No super bowl for us in 99!

 

[Ellard80]

Trading off your best receiver because he missed a couple of games in the last two years seems foolish. I'm glad this wasn't done in 98 when the Reverend Ike was having hamstring issues, No super bowl for us in 99!

yeah i pointed this out earlier... bruce missed like 20 games in his first 5 seasons. kupp isnt more injury prone than any other productive receiver.


I've already listed a number or examples... here is another one... steffon Diggs... only played 16 games once in his career.

Here is another... chris godwin missed 6 games the past two years.

 

[MachS]

We aren't going to get a top flight or true #1 WR by trading Kupp away that doesn't have their own issues. Saying he gets nicked up is basically including everyone in the NFL. We just traded for an uber talented more nicked up QB too lol. Plus Kupp knows this offense in and out. Stafford going to have him and Woods shining so much you'll see he is a top flight WR.

If we trade Kupp we could make a run at Goloday, Godwin, or A Rob. Not saying we will, but I really doubt we go into next season with Woods, Kupp, and Jefferson. I think we will make a splash signing for a pass catcher. And if we end up trading a WR away, my money is on Kupp. The odds are against it happening, but with this FO who knows what we'll do.

 

[Ballhawk]

As long as they don't trade Kupp and /or Woods for a couple of Donnie Averys and a Tavon Austin!

 

[Ellard80]

As long as they don't trade Kupp and /or Woods for a couple of Donnie Averys and a Tavon Austin!

wr's dont have shit for trade capital anyway.. kupp wont be traded, nor should he be.... Chris godwin.. yeah he good.

He missed more games than kupp the past two seasons however....

 

[LOURam85]

I personally think they gone trade one of Krupp or woods we have 3 of the same type of receivers

 

[dieterbrock]

Cap numbers don't matter to me.

Gotcha.
So this is like a Madden type thread?

 

[ottoman89]

Gotcha.
So this is like a Madden type thread?

I can't stay good in the cap on Madden.

 

[PARAM]

Gotcha.
So this is like a Madden type thread?

Yeah Kupp brings a 4.5 mil dead money hit for pre-June 1st trade. Nuff said, unless we're aiming for 50 mil in dead money this year.