No I’ve been tired of seeing those stupid threads and posts for 9 weeks now and wasn’t looking for a fight. It appears you are and if you want to get pissy
Why did Tavon hardly play yesterday.
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No I’ve been tired of seeing those stupid threads and posts for 9 weeks now and wasn’t looking for a fight. It appears you are and if you want to get pissy
Easy schedule...look at our record....he's writing his OWN narrative.....look at the record vs teams OVER.500....Seasons just gettin started....I'm just looking....check back in 4 weeks now....first week is done....we can see if the Jags, Seahawks, and Cowboys were tests then too...check his numbers in those games....you might not like what you find....
Baiting? Check the records.....see if they don't mimic what I've seen in the Pac-12......Stanford, Oregon, USC, UCLA....hell, throw Utah in there.
New Orleans. Philly. Tennessee....(should be a gimme).....and Seattle on the road.
Why do you think Anthony Barr and Kendricks were hitting him in such a way? Think Zim didn't tell them to do that?
Just a few words about why Tavon is getting fewer and fewer snaps...
All due respect, but I think that some are seeing Tavon with their heart, not their eyes. Pure speed is but a part of a WR’s arsenal.
Here are Tavon’s stats. Please focus on his ‘17 season stats.
[www.espn.com]
He’s been a liability as a PR. Too many bad decisions, too much running sideways, too many muffs. Cooper is much better. Not even close.
As a receiver? Just 7 of 12 for 43 yards. For the season, mind you. Is THIS the guy you want to replace Woods with?
As a RB? He has 36 rushes for 171 yards, a 6.1 average. Except that it’s been trending downward lately. I mean, drastically. Opposing D’s have figured him out. He’s reduced himself to one trick pony status.
So here we are. Missing our top WR for 2 or more games. And Tavon appears to be our 6th best WR.
Sooooo...
Why in the world would one want to even THINK about replacing Woods with Tavon, even on a limited basis? I would infinitely prefer some combo of Reynolds, Cooper, or Thomas. Whichever one is most effective gets more and more snaps.
And feed the hell outta Watkins. Even when he’s not open, he’s open. I would hope that Gurley gets lots of looks, too. He’s a nightmare to defend as a pass receiver.
Two more things.
For those that point to McVay promising to use Tavon more often in the future, I say take that with a grain of salt. It’s coachspeak to avoid embarrassing Tavon. Don’t focus on McVay’s words, focus instead on his deeds. He’s given Tavon 2 snaps (no touches) in the last 2 games combined.
Lastly, I’ve asked this question on 2 boards and have yet to get a single answer reply on either. If Tavon is so damned important to the effectiveness of our O, how does one explain all of the many, many successful explosive plays by this O when Tavon wasn’t even on the field?
I’ll wait...
All due respect, but I think that some are seeing Tavon with their heart, not their eyes. Pure speed is but a part of a WR’s arsenal.
Here are Tavon’s stats. Please focus on his ‘17 season stats.
[www.espn.com]
He’s been a liability as a PR. Too many bad decisions, too much running sideways, too many muffs. Cooper is much better. Not even close.
As a receiver? Just 7 of 12 for 43 yards. For the season, mind you. Is THIS the guy you want to replace Woods with?
As a RB? He has 36 rushes for 171 yards, a 6.1 average. Except that it’s been trending downward lately. I mean, drastically. Opposing D’s have figured him out. He’s reduced himself to one trick pony status.
So here we are. Missing our top WR for 2 or more games. And Tavon appears to be our 6th best WR.
Sooooo...
Why in the world would one want to even THINK about replacing Woods with Tavon, even on a limited basis? I would infinitely prefer some combo of Reynolds, Cooper, or Thomas. Whichever one is most effective gets more and more snaps.
And feed the hell outta Watkins. Even when he’s not open, he’s open. I would hope that Gurley gets lots of looks, too. He’s a nightmare to defend as a pass receiver.
Two more things.
For those that point to McVay promising to use Tavon more often in the future, I say take that with a grain of salt. It’s coachspeak to avoid embarrassing Tavon. Don’t focus on McVay’s words, focus instead on his deeds. He’s given Tavon 2 snaps (no touches) in the last 2 games combined.
Lastly, I’ve asked this question on 2 boards and have yet to get a single answer reply on either. If Tavon is so damned important to the effectiveness of our O, how does one explain all of the many, many successful explosive plays by this O when Tavon wasn’t even on the field?
I’ll wait...
I don't really think missing Tavon had any effect on the Rams losing. I think that dropping key balls, turn overs and atrocious CB play caused it.
Even though Gurley was only averaging about 1 yard per carry after his opening drive?
Yes, Gurley, like most good RBs, gets better as the game goes on and his touches start adding up. They proved they could get it done on the first drive, there is no reason to expect the Oline to not be able to pave the way just like they have in those 7 wins.
It was a tough game against a good team. I was have been surprised if they won and they did hang in there. I just think their game plan has to start with Gurley and have the passing game compliment that base. I was not a fan of the game plan but it could have worked out with a couple more catches and better defensive play.
Over all I have to give the Vikings and Keenum credit.
The more you feed him the rock the more chance he has to break one.
The only thing his game was missing last Sunday was a 30-40 yard gainer.
And running the ball would help mitigate the Vikings pass rush. It wears them down, and it prevents them from just rushing the passer.
So here's my idea!
You know how we run Tavon on the jet sweep but mostly do not give it to him, then hand it to Gurley up the middle?
How about changing that up to mess with the defender's heads?
Have Gurley run the jet sweep position and truly give him the ball the first time we run it. Give it to him 50% of the time like that, but then also have Tavon as RB, fake the jet to Gurley (the defense HAS TO respect Gurley maybe getting that ball for a split second) and hand off or pitch to Tavon! Mix it up a lot. Do all the different scenarios possible with that play. Sooner or later there's gonna be gaping running room for one of them.
I'm brilliant.
Those play calls would be brilliant.
You know how we run Tavon on the jet sweep but mostly do not give it to him, then hand it to Gurley up the middle?
How about changing that up to mess with the defender's heads?
Have Gurley run the jet sweep position and truly give him the ball the first time we run it. Give it to him 50% of the time like that, but then also have Tavon as RB, fake the jet to Gurley (the defense HAS TO respect Gurley maybe getting that ball for a split second) and hand off or pitch to Tavon! Mix it up a lot. Do all the different scenarios possible with that play. Sooner or later there's gonna be gaping running room for one of them.
I'm brilliant.
Those play calls would be brilliant.
Oh! One more play that'd be awesome.
Immediate fake to Gurley jet sweeping left.
Then fake hand off to Tavon up middle-right.
Blockers release all D-lineman, let em run at Goff as Goff back peddles.
Then short screen pass to Tavon on the right.
Something like this play can work, especially on 1st and 10.
Yep
Give it to him enough and he breaks a couple
Put me in the Gurley needs more carries group
The BS comes in when you make generalized statments such as
"I never get fellow Ram fans.
They will bitch, moan, and complain about Tavon on how we should trade him, he is half our salary cap, he is trash, he sucks,
and now people complain that he isn't playing enough?"
Yea some were complaining,but not all.
I get Corbins frustration,but
There are better ways to go about it than lumping an entire fanbase
into one defining statement.
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I agree to a certain extent ... but we give it to him on 1st and 10 he gets stuffed for a loss of two .. next time we give to gurley he makes 2 we are third and long in a hostile environment on the road against a good Defense .... and every would be bitching about why did we run it twice when gurley got nowhere #footballfanlogic
There’s only do many times you can truba run play and it get stuffed simyoumpass to try and open up
The run
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The Immaculate Exception
I think it was as simple as what McVay stated that the offense wasn't in rhythm at all. Give credit to the Vikings who took away the run in the second half.
The Rams only had 3 sustainable drives. The last one at the end of the game is one and didn't matter. The first drive where they didn't need TA and the Kupp Fumble drive. Maybe he could have opened things up for Gurley but, there were other problems that were too much to overcome.