From memory, I say they give the QB too much time to throw and CB play. The one time they got pressure, it ended with bad luck. They do come in the second half when the Rams get tired. Maybe a blitz would work if they tried it.
Why are 2pt conversions automatic vs our defense???
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No one doubted that. Unfortunately, it seems to be costing us more and more. We used to never blow leads. It was unheard if. Something spooked McVay at some point and changed his methodology when holding a big lead. No idea what it was
brucebruce
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no one is beyond criticism or even harsh evaluation but there is a tactful was to speak about your own team. and yes, some players and their family read these boards.
brucebruce
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are you referring the ball perfectly sailing over his head in the corner of the endzone? that was well played by wallace--just an incredible throw and receiver made a tough catch.
Boy, oh boy, did YOU nail it!!!
Anyone paying attention by now knows, I do not have a high opinion of Shula's competency.
THIS is another example of BAD coaching. Not just near the goal line, but almost every time they replay one of our secondary guys getting beat - or more often, getting a PI - you see them with their back to the ball, flailing their arms madly and running into the receiver.
If you never look back to the ball, the chances of getting beat or getting a PI go up tenfold. And our secondary does it far, far too often!
Good coaches teach technique, then drill it into their players heads until it's second nature. It seems clear to me that Shula is doing neither.
Which is why, blitzing should be the go to. You can''t be beat deep when deep isn't in play. Maybe Forbes could blitz instead of cover. He is fast and it wouldn't be expected. Probably whif on on the tackle though.
The offense just goes cold for 2 or three series right when their offense heats up. They loose focus or something when they get up on teams. You can say McVay is to conservative and when he tries to run out the clock I agree, but the ergency seems to just go away. The other teams O puts out more effort against some sort of softer D than earlier and our O just crumbles until they fall behind.
brucebruce
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Not feasible to turn around every time. Many times you wait for the catch and disrupt by pulling an arm down.
I do think blitzing is something Shula sucks at. And I see it as an extension of the fact he only did one season in the secondary, a season btw which was a complete catastrophe. In order to get creative blitzing you must have a strong grasp of the back end and how players rotate etc.
Of course I have to admit I don't know for sure he's not knowledgeable enough on the back end. But it sure seems like we're a bit vanilla back there and I'd call it overly conservative. I'd love to see more switching things up, though I am not sure to what extent those things are related to McVay.
All that aside I have to think that if McVay had a legit DC running his defense that it would help him. He'd be able to not worry about it other than the occasional flipping of approach here and there as a head coach is wont to do.
Yeah, but they tried to address the issue of giving the QB too much time to throw. We just had the shit luck of Garrett getting injured.
Completely disagree. You see when the ball is about to be caught unless the WR is planning to wedge it in his helmet. When his arms raise you turn your head and get ready to catch that thing. Done it a million times in my youth.
Yea I think the go to is wanting to blame McVay from a play calling perspective when the offense goes cold, and we really don't know....he did take accountability for the two drives after Denver scored and said he didn't like his play calls.
But its not the same.....against Seattle on Thursday night last year, he went run/run/pass and the problem with that was, we were just making it so Seattle needed one play (being too conservative).
Against the Broncos, in at least one of those series, but I believe both, he went run/pass/pass - the second down play just seemed to be covered.
I think a big part of the Broncos game that was different than these other two meltdowns is, Stafford was just off. He still threw for a ton of yards, but he was off.
That's another reason why for me, the Denver game was validating how good we are. It took Puka, Garrett, Kinchens being out, TEs going down and Stafford being off for a large portion of the game (wasn't just the pick 6 - he missed Ferg wide open in the first half, and several other throws) AND the calls in the last two minutes for Denver to squeak out a win at home. And they are a good football team.
What I don't get, is they don't want to blitz to protect the back end when because they don't blitz, they don't get to the QB and leave the back end vulnerable. Seems backward to me. I have seen many defenses, when their back end gets riddled with injuries compensate by blitzing. I agree that the Rams need a DC with a ton of experience. Stop bringing guys from within. Then back the fuck off and let that dude do what he does best.
IIRC, he missed Davante twice deep when Davante had a lot of separation.
Forget 2-pt coversions. Last year in week 13 in the third quarter against Carolina, their qb tossed a 33-yard pass for a td on 4th-and-7.
Then, later on in the 4th qtr once again, on 4th down tossed another td pass from 43 yards to win the game. TWO TD PASSES on 4th AND LONG FOR TOUCHDOWNS.
Remember the Rams giving up a TD on 4th down to Chicago with 18 seconds remaining in the game during the playoffs. I think Caleb threw that thing form 40 yards out after scrambling.
Then, later on in the 4th qtr once again, on 4th down tossed another td pass from 43 yards to win the game. TWO TD PASSES on 4th AND LONG FOR TOUCHDOWNS.
Remember the Rams giving up a TD on 4th down to Chicago with 18 seconds remaining in the game during the playoffs. I think Caleb threw that thing form 40 yards out after scrambling.
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Well, one critical one was stopped, whistle blown and still awarded to the shit hawks.
But the TE clearly pushed off (no penalty). That's why he was wide open in the play, unless I saw it wrong.
SteezyEndo
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Because 2pt conversions are ST duties in defending, and we obviously don’t have a good ST squad period.