Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?

[El Chapo Jr]

Huh?
Stafford thru for 5k yards and 41 TD in his 3rd season, Lawrence hasnt been anything close to that

I'm not disputing anything you put up, just simply posting their stats for more depth. My only comment is Lawrence hasn't been too shabby stat wise but too may INTs. Not many Staffords out there. Would be curious to see McVay coach Lawrence, could see his play elevate a bit. With that said, got to enjoy greats like Stafford, they don't come around often.

Stafford 1st 3 Seasons:

Lawrence 1st 3 Seasons

 

[Faceplant]

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[dieterbrock]

and yet it was still said. Fans are always the best.

I still dont understand your point. Stafford played at a franchise QB level, Lawrence hasnt and is looking more mid year after year

 

[dieterbrock]

I'm not disputing anything you put up, just simply posting their stats for more depth. My only comment is Lawrence hasn't been too shabby stat wise but too may INTs. Not many Staffords out there. Would be curious to see McVay coach Lawrence, could see his play elevate a bit. With that said, got to enjoy greats like Stafford, they don't come around often.

Stafford 1st 3 Seasons:
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Lawrence 1st 3 Seasons
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Lol, I love when folks use words like "depth" to make a point while completely ignoring context.
Stafford only played in 3 games in that 2nd year, but followed it up with his CB POY 2011 season that fully supplanted him as an upper tier QB. Lawrence? Still waiting
Context is key

 

[Merlin]

Gosh, I don't think I wanna take one in the first. I would prefer to take a top OL or CB and draft a 2nd rounder who missed out by a few picks...he may have that chip needed on his shoulder.

I don't watch enough college ball anymore to give any good opinions....but Arch Manning sure looks like ass. Haha

I don't see us moving up for a QB in the draft unless Stafford retires or forces his way out. But I do think the Rams will prioritize the QB position.

What that ends up looking like comes down to how many of them declare and how the board falls. Because the Rams are unlikely to be picking up high. If it happens, great. But at this point it feels like their picks are likely to be a mid-first and late-first in combination. So if they take a QB it will be one of the perceived second tier types, who typically go off the board late first round when teams who need a QB but went BPA at the top dip back into round 1 to snag them, or when playoff teams take them to stash them on their depth charts.

I suppose if they absolutely love one of the QBs, and that QB has a chance to let's say slide to 5 range or so, then a move-up is possible. However they need a couple cornerstone positions that are best taken in round 1 in QB and LT (shutdown level CB, which we need, is best taken round 1 so that could be added to the list as well). And that's not to say QB is a need in the classic sense, where it's a catastrophe if you don't have it, because it is possible we still have Stafford. But I am certain that McVay wants a young QB to groom to replace Matt down the road. A succession plan as it were.

So ideally they would use both those picks to take shots on a couple different positions. That's my hope at least. I'd like to see the Green Bay approach here.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Lol, I love when folks use words like "depth" to make a point while completely ignoring context.
Stafford only played in 3 games in that 2nd year, but followed it up with his CB POY 2011 season that fully supplanted him as an upper tier QB. Lawrence? Still waiting
Context is key

I literally stated I'm not disputing anything you said just added stats to give more depth to the conversation. To me it truly points out Stafford is a special QB, never said that about Lawrence. Just said I'd be curious to see McVay work with him to see if he can get him better IF we went that route, not even advocating for it. Do you just like starting arguments even if they aren't there? Starting to think you are a little fascinated by some drama

 

[Flint]

Maybe this is a good thing, the Rams weren’t going to get near #1 without shelling out a kings ransom, now who knows if any of these guys should go in the top 5. Maybe teams will be a little more cautious not wanting to make another Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson mistake.

 

[Dodgersrf]

I recall fans from all over the NFL who said the same thing about Stafford.

I don’t recall that.
Stafford has always been a good QB, IMO.

 

[Flatlyner]

Not likely but it is possible Cincy puts him on the market, depending on where their draft pick ends up. You just never know with stupid owners.

But yeah I'd rather have a fresh young QB that McVay covets in the draft. Then try to get things sorted with Stafford for the 2026 season and you're in great shape with the vet and the kid QB cooking on the depth chart.

I have a feeling this will be Stafford's last season with us, but he looks hungry in the first two games so if he puts up a high end season the Rams will probably be looking to make things work. Long way to go on all this but the key is adding a good young talent to the mix.

Also nothing against Bennett in that regard. But as much as I like Bennett he's probably a QB2 at this level. If he has a role going forward it would be as our backup, and if Stafford were to retire or move on then they may let him compete with a bridge option for that role. But he's unlikely to be a long term QB1 type answer. Note that I'm not ruling that out, as there are always outliers on this shit. But generally the small guys like him aren't gonna be able to hold that role down for an elite franchise.

I think this is right. If we make a long playoff run and Stafford keeps looking like this, I think we see him for another year and we take a young guy in the draft to groom for the whole year. We will need that rookie QB cap space to pay all of our dudes.

If this is Staffords last year, I think we try and trade for a vet. I can't see McVay having interest in starting a rookie QB in any capacity. Next year I think Bennett takes reigns as our back up and we save some $.

That said, the college QB's so far aren't looking up to the hype. Mateer is looking good and Sellers still needs to show improvement. Manning has no chance of coming out IMO with the way he has played. Klubnik has looked bad. Honestly, Beck has played himself back into the 1st round discussion after a pretty mid year at Georgia last year.

 

[Da-Rock]

I still dont understand your point. Stafford played at a franchise QB level, Lawrence hasnt and is looking more mid year after year

Well that is probably because you veered off onto Stafford instead of the point being made about Lawrence.

No offense to you, but the amount of Bullcrap I read from fans is at an astonishing level these days.....most fan sites make political forums look good.

The point was fans say stupid crap and only stay within their narratives. You don't like a guy = he foever sucks until he's on your team. You like a guy = your team should have drafted or traded for him.

Lawrence has only been on one NFL team and that team is the Jags. The point is he could be very good in the right situation..... or he could suck balls.

 

[dieterbrock]

Well that is probably because you veered off onto Stafford instead of the point being made about Lawrence.

No offense to you, but the amount of Bullcrap I read from fans is at an astonishing level these days.....most fan sites make political forums look good.

The point was fans say stupid crap and only stay within their narratives. You don't like a guy = he foever sucks until he's on your team. You like a guy = your team should have drafted or traded for him.

Lawrence has only been on one NFL team and that team is the Jags. The point is he could be very good in the right situation..... or he could suck balls.

Well, you are the one who brought Stafford in to the conversation as a comparison, I dont think its a good one. Lawrence book may not be written, but so far he is no Matt Stafford. Both played on terrible teams with tumultuous coaching situations. But Stafford despite his circumstances played some high level ball, which frankly hasnt been the same for Lawrence

 

[Karate61]

Why does everyone seem to think McVay would rather get a vet rather than draft a top QB prospect. Didn't he groom rookie qb's when he was coaching in Washington before becoming the Rams head coach? Isn't that what helped him get on the map for a head coaching position? And, he basically groomed Goff from Goff's second year, which was almost like his rookie year as he didn't play much his rookie year, and didn't have a very good coaching staff then either. He sure got Goff going fairly quick out of the gate. Why is it assumed that McVay would pass up on a top qb prospect, for a veteran that he'd most likely need to "retrain" any way. Dosen't seem to make a difference to me from my observations.

 

[Jacobarch]

Well, you are the one who brought Stafford in to the conversation as a comparison, I dont think its a good one. Lawrence book may not be written, but so far he is no Matt Stafford. Both played on terrible teams with tumultuous coaching situations. But Stafford despite his circumstances played some high level ball, which frankly hasnt been the same for Lawrence

This ^^

Lawrence is the equivalent of Goff 2.0. Why would we want another Mid QB when we could have kept Goff? Or Jimmy G? Sure McVay could probably make Lawrence into a decent to good QB but he'll never be elite or great IMO, he doesn't have the toolset.

Issue is, this years QB draft crop doesn't really look that great, so we have to hope Stafford has another good season in him or we have to trade for someone that's already in the NFL who we can get with some picks. I don't see another way around it, I don't think Allar, Manning, Nussmeier, or Sellers have the tools to become the next franchise QB for the Rams. Obviously I could be very wrong, but I just don't see it.

 

[dieterbrock]

Why does everyone seem to think McVay would rather get a vet rather than draft a top QB prospect. Didn't he groom rookie qb's when he was coaching in Washington before becoming the Rams head coach? Isn't that what helped him get on the map for a head coaching position? And, he basically groomed Goff from Goff's second year, which was almost like his rookie year as he didn't play much his rookie year, and didn't have a very good coaching staff then either. He sure got Goff going fairly quick out of the gate. Why is it assumed that McVay would pass up on a top qb prospect, for a veteran that he'd most likely need to "retrain" any way. Dosen't seem to make a difference to me from my observations.

I totally agree!
Snead has made comments about developing a young QB as well.
Getting that 5 year contract for a 1st round pick is much easier on the salary cap when extending out the current young stars
I'll always wonder what the Rams would have done had Dart been on the board. Alas, all the debate in the world wont change what the Rams ultimately decide to do

 

[Da-Rock]

Well, you are the one who brought Stafford in to the conversation as a comparison, I dont think its a good one. Lawrence book may not be written, but so far he is no Matt Stafford. Both played on terrible teams with tumultuous coaching situations. But Stafford despite his circumstances played some high level ball, which frankly hasnt been the same for Lawrence

Stafford was brought up by me as a comparison of what people said about him......not a comparison about skill level. Obviously Stafford is better and I think he was good on the Lions, but he was better on the Rams. Goff is better on the Lions than he was on the Rams.

 

[younghutch]

Why does everyone seem to think McVay would rather get a vet rather than draft a top QB prospect. Didn't he groom rookie qb's when he was coaching in Washington before becoming the Rams head coach? Isn't that what helped him get on the map for a head coaching position? And, he basically groomed Goff from Goff's second year, which was almost like his rookie year as he didn't play much his rookie year, and didn't have a very good coaching staff then either. He sure got Goff going fairly quick out of the gate. Why is it assumed that McVay would pass up on a top qb prospect, for a veteran that he'd most likely need to "retrain" any way. Dosen't seem to make a difference to me from my observations.

Good points all.

However, that was 9 years ago. How much longer do you think McVay will coach? Is he willing to invest in the learning curve of 2 years or so before considering a Super Bowl run?

 

[Memento]

Honestly, if Drake Maye is a legitimate option, he'd be my first choice. But if we had to go through the 2026 draft, LaNorris Sellers would be my choice. I don't trust Nussmeier or Allar, I'll be honest; they're way too inconsistent game-to-game, throw-to-throw.

 

[Karate61]

I totally agree!
Snead has made comments about developing a young QB as well.
Getting that 5 year contract for a 1st round pick is much easier on the salary cap when extending out the current young stars
I'll always wonder what the Rams would have done had Dart been on the board. Alas, all the debate in the world wont change what the Rams ultimately decide to do

Oh yeah. Good point. I forgot about the 5-year window salary cap as a factor to draft instead of sign a veteran. I may be remebering wrong, but I think the Rams made an unsuccessful attempt at moving up to get Dart. I know there was a lot of pre-draft talk about the possibility of the Rams going after him. Maybe the Rams were going to grab Dart, but the Giants snagged him first.