Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?

[dieterbrock]

Allar sucks. Disagree on kicking the can. Unless almost all these guys go back to school, this is a good year to do it. People want the perfect prospect. But the reality is that even if there were that guy, we wouldn't be in position to draft him. There are some very talented QBs who have a chance to be on the board in 8-15 range in this draft (depending on who declares). That's perfect for us. This is not at all a bad class. No guarantee next year's class is better or if it is, that we're in a better spot to pursue a QB. (For example, doesn't do us a lot of good if there are three elite prospects in next year's class if we're not able to draft one of the three.)

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Folks though Dart shouldnt have been a 1st round pick.
The Bo Nix pick seemed like a reach.
Josh Allen was the 3rd QB picked and Buffalo was laughed at for taking him so early
I sure hope these guys all come out so there's a litter to choose from

 

[Memphis Ram]

Allar sucks. Disagree on kicking the can. Unless almost all these guys go back to school, this is a good year to do it. People want the perfect prospect. But the reality is that even if there were that guy, we wouldn't be in position to draft him. There are some very talented QBs who have a chance to be on the board in 8-15 range in this draft (depending on who declares). That's perfect for us. This is not at all a bad class. No guarantee next year's class is better or if it is, that we're in a better spot to pursue a QB. (For example, doesn't do us a lot of good if there are three elite prospects in next year's class if we're not able to draft one of the three.)

Great point.

While I'm guessing the success rate is higher with QBs deemed worthy to be top 5 or so selections, that doesn't mean the Rams should be locked into trying to obtain one. Others success stories have been had later in the round.

I'd really like to see what McVay can do with a QB not selected #1 overall.

 

[Flatlyner]

I just want to see what he can do with LaNorris Sellers

 

[jrry32]

100%
Folks though Dart shouldnt have been a 1st round pick.
The Bo Nix pick seemed like a reach.
Josh Allen was the 3rd QB picked and Buffalo was laughed at for taking him so early
I sure hope these guys all come out so there's a litter to choose from

Yep. There were people who were convinced that Mahomes and Lamar Jackson would bust because both had major flaws. You just have to take a chance. Currently, all of these guys are draft eligible:
Ty Simpson QB Alabama
Jayden Maiava QB USC
Fernando Mendoza QB Indiana
Dante Moore QB Oregon
LaNorris Sellers QB South Carolina
Darian Mensah QB Duke
Sawyer Robertson QB Baylor
Taylen Green QB Arkansas
Brendan Sorsby QB Cincy
Marcel Reed QB TAMU
John Mateer QB Oklahoma

Some of these guys will go back to school, but there is the potential for this to be a deep class. And that's without even getting into the guys who will go later in the draft (Garrett Nussmeier, Cade Klubnik, Carson Beck, Diego Pavia, Trinidad Chambliss, Luke Altmyer, Mark Gronowski, Haynes King, Joe Fagnano, Kaidon Salter, etc.).

 

[jrry32]

I just want to see what he can do with LaNorris Sellers

I would love that too. He's a huge risk, but he's so incredibly physically gifted. If he developed well under McVay, he'd be a perennial MVP candidate (if he can stay healthy).

 

[Merlin]

I just want to see what he can do with LaNorris Sellers

Sellers has the type of tools that teams will prioritize and he'll jump up the board. He's a better prospect than Richardson by a country mile, though I think Richardson was a lesson for the league. But the league won't learn its lesson since all it takes to undo that is team execs attending the throwing day and hearing that ball hiss on deep outs and seeing the workout and having images of a superelite QB in their heads.

If Sellers makes it outside that early group he'd be a very nice choice for the Rams to park and don't let him sniff the field until he's got real mastery of the offense. But I seriously doubt him or the kid with the Ducks last long. Both probably go top 5 with Mendoza.

Mendoza I would say is more likely to fall than the other two, after watching a bit more tape (I like to watch interviews as well as what game tape I can get my hands on). He's kind of goofy in his personality, and that may rub some teams the wrong way.

But anyway what the Rams will do is have a couple guys they really like in their whiteboard and bro sessions with McVay and the offensive staff. And they'll slot them on their board and have spots where they target taking them if possible. Sellers though, the upside he brings is significant and it's hard to imagine teams not valuing that.

 

[Merlin]

Also and btw re: Sellers I have no words for how fucking terrible his protections are. Now maybe some of that is his fault, i.e. maybe he's not making calls they expect or something. But no QB is good with terrible protections, so I am guessing it translates into two things:

1. He will not want to return to South Carolina.
2. That in conjunction with his skills projecting high means he'll declare for the draft.

 

[dieterbrock]

Also and btw re: Sellers I have no words for how fucking terrible his protections are. Now maybe some of that is his fault, i.e. maybe he's not making calls they expect or something. But no QB is good with terrible protections, so I am guessing it translates into two things:

1. He will not want to return to South Carolina.
2. That in conjunction with his skills projecting high means he'll declare for the draft.

Or #3 he'll be offered a shit ton of NIL money to go play elsewhere

 

[PhillyRam]

Also and btw re: Sellers I have no words for how fucking terrible his protections are. Now maybe some of that is his fault, i.e. maybe he's not making calls they expect or something. But no QB is good with terrible protections, so I am guessing it translates into two things:

1. He will not want to return to South Carolina.
2. That in conjunction with his skills projecting high means he'll declare for the draft.

Yeah, that's the other part of this we overlook. A kid like him can get a shit ton of NIL by transferring some where else. Maybe Mateer cones out and Sellers heads to Oklahoma. Maybe The USC kid comes out, and he heads to USC. Or Penn State hires a real good offensive minded HC and a top QB transfers there.

With the year Stafford is having, I am thinking the Rams & Stafford could be all in on 2 more years. So instead of spending a high pick on a QB, who won't see the field, they get him protection and weapons.

Then maybe you burn a 3rd rd pick on one of these toolsy kids with size & potential, and just see if the kid develops over the next few years.

That gives them the option of having a developmental QB in waiting, or if the kid doesn't pan out, you go get another vet a few yrs from now or draft another QB high if one is in reach.

 

[Merlin]

Who I think are potentially top 5 types...

1. Moore. Watched more of his games. That kid's gonna have a good pro day, he'll work out well at the combine, so he's a shoe in to go off early.

2. Mendoza. Assuming he doesn't rub teams the wrong way with that goofy personality he has a nice set of tools and will be able to see the field well at this level. Very likely to be in that range.

3. Sellers. I think he's the workout riser from this group. The raw option who also teams will give somewhat of a pass to due to his protections.

4. Simpson. If you're not tall, or if you are slight of frame, have small hands, have a weak arm, etc., you need a superpower to counter those elements to go early. Simpson's a bit on the small side, but his super power is his feel for the rush, anticipation on throws, and accuracy. This kid's the real deal. I think he's the best QB in this draft at the college level, but what effect will his height have. But he's a slam dunk top 5 guy IMO, and if he falls you can bet your ass McVay jumps to take him.

Outside of those I think Maiava returns to USC because next year he'll be in the running for 1 overall. Don't see him getting that this year.

Also I think the NDSU kid may jump big time if he can show more throwing ability, right now he's a bit too run-centric in that offense. Dude gives me Hurts vibes though, because he'll make throws with a cold arm then go back to handing off and running. So he is very much on my radar for the Rams to develop.

Lastly Mateer is the other guy I really like still for the Rams. Dude has gotten a ration of shit but he played through a broken passing hand. He's got quicks. Insane competitor. Good kid. McVay will love him. I just wonder how tall he is. There's a lot of QBs in this class who are "backup sized."

 

[jrry32]

Or #3 he'll be offered a shit ton of NIL money to go play elsewhere

I don't see that happening. LaNorris is a SC kid. Don't see him opting to bail on the program to play at another school. Think he'd choose the draft. If Beamer gets fired, maybe he'd head somewhere else, but even then, it's not guaranteed. I think playing college ball close to home is important to him.

Who I think are potentially top 5 types...

1. Moore. Watched more of his games. That kid's gonna have a good pro day, he'll work out well at the combine, so he's a shoe in to go off early.

2. Mendoza. Assuming he doesn't rub teams the wrong way with that goofy personality he has a nice set of tools and will be able to see the field well at this level. Very likely to be in that range.

3. Sellers. I think he's the workout riser from this group. The raw option who also teams will give somewhat of a pass to due to his protections.

4. Simpson. If you're not tall, or if you are slight of frame, have small hands, have a weak arm, etc., you need a superpower to counter those elements to go early. Simpson's a bit on the small side, but his super power is his feel for the rush, anticipation on throws, and accuracy. This kid's the real deal. I think he's the best QB in this draft at the college level, but what effect will his height have. But he's a slam dunk top 5 guy IMO, and if he falls you can bet your ass McVay jumps to take him.

Outside of those I think Maiava returns to USC because next year he'll be in the running for 1 overall. Don't see him getting that this year.

Also I think the NDSU kid may jump big time if he can show more throwing ability, right now he's a bit too run-centric in that offense. Dude gives me Hurts vibes though, because he'll make throws with a cold arm then go back to handing off and running. So he is very much on my radar for the Rams to develop.

Lastly Mateer is the other guy I really like still for the Rams. Dude has gotten a ration of shit but he played through a broken passing hand. He's got quicks. Insane competitor. Good kid. McVay will love him. I just wonder how tall he is. There's a lot of QBs in this class who are "backup sized."

Mateer needs to go back. He's not ready. I think Maiava will come out if he's in a strong position. Of all the guys I've casually watched, I like Ty Simpson the most (to date). Precision, touch, accuracy, instincts, and good mobility.

 

[Ram Ts]

The success rate for top 5 pick QBs has not been very good lately (5-10 years at least). Lots of fails there while the later 2-5th type guy ends up much better. Missing in that top 5 pick really messes up a franchise.
Now you’d hope that our scouts are some of the best around and would have a greater chance of hitting. Hopefully. Then again, Stetson.

 

[Merlin]

Mateer needs to go back. He's not ready.

I don't disagree, however that same thing could be said for most of these guys outside of a few.

Also I doubt Mateer will be in the running for being a high pick even if he goes back and has a strong season. And for those types it could be argued coming out and ending up on the depth chart for a team like LA would be the way to go. Let all those top pick fucks go to the Clevelands of the world.

 

[jrry32]

I don't disagree, however that same thing could be said for most of these guys outside of a few.

Also I doubt Mateer will be in the running for being a high pick even if he goes back and has a strong season. And for those types it could be argued coming out and ending up on the depth chart for a team like LA would be the way to go. Let all those top pick fucks go to the Clevelands of the world.

I actually think Mateer could be a top 10 pick if he goes back and grows as a QB. Needs to get better at playing within the structure of the offense and throw the ball with more accuracy. The hand injury is undoubtedly impacting him, but still, he's looked quite bad the past couple games.

 

[PhillyRam]

Who I think are potentially top 5 types...

1. Moore. Watched more of his games. That kid's gonna have a good pro day, he'll work out well at the combine, so he's a shoe in to go off early.

2. Mendoza. Assuming he doesn't rub teams the wrong way with that goofy personality he has a nice set of tools and will be able to see the field well at this level. Very likely to be in that range.

3. Sellers. I think he's the workout riser from this group. The raw option who also teams will give somewhat of a pass to due to his protections.

4. Simpson. If you're not tall, or if you are slight of frame, have small hands, have a weak arm, etc., you need a superpower to counter those elements to go early. Simpson's a bit on the small side, but his super power is his feel for the rush, anticipation on throws, and accuracy. This kid's the real deal. I think he's the best QB in this draft at the college level, but what effect will his height have. But he's a slam dunk top 5 guy IMO, and if he falls you can bet your ass McVay jumps to take him.

Outside of those I think Maiava returns to USC because next year he'll be in the running for 1 overall. Don't see him getting that this year.

Also I think the NDSU kid may jump big time if he can show more throwing ability, right now he's a bit too run-centric in that offense. Dude gives me Hurts vibes though, because he'll make throws with a cold arm then go back to handing off and running. So he is very much on my radar for the Rams to develop.

Lastly Mateer is the other guy I really like still for the Rams. Dude has gotten a ration of shit but he played through a broken passing hand. He's got quicks. Insane competitor. Good kid. McVay will love him. I just wonder how tall he is. There's a lot of QBs in this class who are "backup sized."

Yeah, Mateer might be one potentially special QB that falls to 9-15, where he is within reach of the Atlanta pick or a small trade up.

Simpson, Moore, Mendoza, and Sellers, will all likley be picked by pick 6 or 7 or won't come out.

As I said above, I wouldn't be opposed to a guy like Sawyer Robertson, the Cincy kid, the TCU kid, maybe Klubnik comes back a bit after a rough 6 weeks and improves his stock, and of course even Allar much later. So someone like that later on day 2 might make sense. Maybe the Cincy kid moves into late rd 1.

 

[Merlin]

As I said above, I wouldn't be opposed to a guy like Sawyer Robertson, the Cincy kid, the TCU kid, maybe Klubnik comes back a bit after a rough 6 weeks and improves his stock, and of course even Allar much later. So someone like that later on day 2 might make sense. Maybe the Cincy kid moves into late rd 1.

Well if McVay jives with any of those in whiteboard sessions I'm fine with it. I think he's got a good eye with QBs. I trust him with QB for sure. Though some of those dudes I think are backups at best, Allar for example would strain my faith lol.

Also I am sort of picky with QBs on certain things. I like the spunky fuckers who fight to the wire. Mateer I agree would be incredible if he comes out and gets low enough for us to snap him up. Even with a move up. Same goes for Simpson, if for example he gets overnuked or has a poor pro day and slides enough McVay I imagine would move for him.

Only thing is I don't like short QBs, just because it seems to me like they have to be an outlier at this level to pull it off. So I am worried about how both those guys measure in. Simpson looks small as hell to me btw, so idk it's not like my eyes are calibrated or anything but I think that's going to matter for him unless he continues doing what he's done so far this season on through the playoffs.

 

[PhillyRam]

Well if McVay jives with any of those in whiteboard sessions I'm fine with it. I think he's got a good eye with QBs. I trust him with QB for sure. Though some of those dudes I think are backups at best, Allar for example would strain my faith lol.

Also I am sort of picky with QBs on certain things. I like the spunky fuckers who fight to the wire. Mateer I agree would be incredible if he comes out and gets low enough for us to snap him up. Even with a move up. Same goes for Simpson, if for example he gets overnuked or has a poor pro day and slides enough McVay I imagine would move for him.

Only thing is I don't like short QBs, just because it seems to me like they have to be an outlier at this level to pull it off. So I am worried about how both those guys measure in. Simpson looks small as hell to me btw, so idk it's not like my eyes are calibrated or anything but I think that's going to matter for him unless he continues doing what he's done so far this season on through the playoffs.

The more I look at the Cincinnati QB I get more intrigued, raw, but looks the part. Also, has that attitude you like. He would likley have to sit a few years though. So if he has it between the ears, he might be a nice get if Stafford comes back. Might develop nicely under McVay & Stafford.

 

[jrry32]

Who I think are potentially top 5 types...

1. Moore. Watched more of his games. That kid's gonna have a good pro day, he'll work out well at the combine, so he's a shoe in to go off early.

2. Mendoza. Assuming he doesn't rub teams the wrong way with that goofy personality he has a nice set of tools and will be able to see the field well at this level. Very likely to be in that range.

3. Sellers. I think he's the workout riser from this group. The raw option who also teams will give somewhat of a pass to due to his protections.

4. Simpson. If you're not tall, or if you are slight of frame, have small hands, have a weak arm, etc., you need a superpower to counter those elements to go early. Simpson's a bit on the small side, but his super power is his feel for the rush, anticipation on throws, and accuracy. This kid's the real deal. I think he's the best QB in this draft at the college level, but what effect will his height have. But he's a slam dunk top 5 guy IMO, and if he falls you can bet your ass McVay jumps to take him.

Outside of those I think Maiava returns to USC because next year he'll be in the running for 1 overall. Don't see him getting that this year.

Also I think the NDSU kid may jump big time if he can show more throwing ability, right now he's a bit too run-centric in that offense. Dude gives me Hurts vibes though, because he'll make throws with a cold arm then go back to handing off and running. So he is very much on my radar for the Rams to develop.

Lastly Mateer is the other guy I really like still for the Rams. Dude has gotten a ration of shit but he played through a broken passing hand. He's got quicks. Insane competitor. Good kid. McVay will love him. I just wonder how tall he is. There's a lot of QBs in this class who are "backup sized."

Don't know if he'll go top 5, but if you aren't familiar with Darian Mensah, definitely look into him. He's draft eligible. Don't know if he'll declare, but if he does, he could be a great fit for us in the mid first round.

 

[Merlin]

Don't know if he'll go top 5, but if you aren't familiar with Darian Mensah, definitely look into him. He's draft eligible. Don't know if he'll declare, but if he does, he could be a great fit for us in the mid first round.

Need to watch him. Still going down the list.