Ground Chuck
Rookie
Cool! My nephew was an ILB too. He was on the same team with Austin Corbett. 2017My brother played at UNR, inside linebacker, back in the day. I also went to a bunch of UNR games around 1992-93. Fun times!
Cool! My nephew was an ILB too. He was on the same team with Austin Corbett. 2017My brother played at UNR, inside linebacker, back in the day. I also went to a bunch of UNR games around 1992-93. Fun times!
Everyone of course knows that the rams traded #26 in this year's draft to ATL and as part of that trade the Rams were given ATL's 1st rd pick in next years draft. The Rams may or may not package those 2 first rd picks with perhaps even more picks to move up & take one of the top QBs in next year's draft. Next year's class of QBs is projected to be deep & talented. There is a group of 6 QBs currently rated high in the draft next year. The purpose of this discussion/thread is to discuss who each of thinks is the best option as a future franchise QB for the Rams should they chose to draft one next year in the 1st round. Here are the 6 QBs with links for You Tube video highlights of each QB.
Manning
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMxDPBsVouA
Nussmeier
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tebj5HU_bw
Allar
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QazqInDAUdo
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tebj5HU_bw
Sellers
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5_6j3hgAUI
Iamaleava
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiE1Pw0Nmy8
Klubnik
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC8Rvz4sgY8
Last year Allar did not seem to see the whole field. Any team that could pressure, whether they did or not on any given play, seemed to speed up the clock for him. He looked scared and rushed. I also think his mechanics go south in those situations.My worry about Arch is I'm afraid he will be like Archie and the Manning legacy will come full circle. Archie, good but on a bad team. Peyton and Eli 4 Superbowl Championships, Arch nothing.
I'm a Penn St. fan and I think Allar can be real good. The one problem....and it's a big one.....is he looks overmatched and hasn't shown up in the Big Games. I like his arm, his size but there's more than a hint of panic vs Ohio St, Michigan, Oregon, etc.. Like Kyren and correcting his ball security issues, if Allar can show up in the big games this year, his stock rises significantly. One thing in his favor there, is Penn St. is predicted to be playing for the National Title by many 'experts' so he could get that shot. Show up and move up.
Allar wouldnt even look at a WR against ND in the Orange Bowl, only checked down and threw to TE's
I know you cant take too much out of one game but that game was there for the taking and Allar flat out lost it
I cant see why folks are so high on him
I forget where the stats were gathered but someone had put a chart together that year over year progress was the best indicator of eventual success in the NFL over many other metrics.I tell you what, Allar has improved every season. He looked awful in his first year. If he makes another leap, he's going to be good. He has a hell of an arm.
Gotta have a dance partner for that to happenThey can always flip one of those 1st rounders for a 1st rounder in the following draft.
Was last year an improvement though? I seem to think it in some ways he regressed. In 24 he lead the conference in TD passes, in '25 he came up small in the team's biggest games, and was lucky to make the playoff.I tell you what, Allar has improved every season. He looked awful in his first year. If he makes another leap, he's going to be good. He has a hell of an arm.
I don't think he regressed. (JMHO) I think he stayed the same.......vs good teams, important games. Bad. Statistically in all games he improved. Raised his completion percentage considerably (up from 59.9 to 66.5). And it's not like he was just throwing short. His average yards per attempt went up from 6.8 to 8.4. I think he stayed another year because HE knew he needed to improve. And the one area he needs to improve is the big games. They are one of the favorites this year, so he'll have the opportunity to show up in the big games. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) he doesn't have but one or two big games until the postseason. Oregon in Happy Valley on September 27th and November 1st at the horseshoe. @Iowa (10/18) and vs Indiana (11/15) could be tight games too. We'll see. I'm rooting for the kid to turn it around and make himself some money.Was last year an improvement though? I seem to think it in some ways he regressed. In 24 he lead the conference in TD passes, in '25 he came up small in the team's biggest games, and was lucky to make the playoff.
I think had he taken a step forward in '25, he would have went in to the draft since the class was determined a weak class
Threw a lot more passes to TE/RB in '25. TD % down, INT % up. Not sure he was statistically better, threw more passes though.I don't think he regressed. (JMHO) I think he stayed the same.......vs good teams, important games. Bad. Statistically in all games he improved. Raised his completion percentage considerably (up from 59.9 to 66.5). And it's not like he was just throwing short. His average yards per attempt went up from 6.8 to 8.4. I think he stayed another year because HE knew he needed to improve. And the one area he needs to improve is the big games. They are one of the favorites this year, so he'll have the opportunity to show up in the big games. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) he doesn't have but one or two big games until the postseason. Oregon in Happy Valley on September 27th and November 1st at the horseshoe. @Iowa (10/18) and vs Indiana (11/15) could be tight games too. We'll see. I'm rooting for the kid to turn it around and make himself some money.
People often say this, but every year after the draft, we hear reports of outrageous offers the Rams turned down, as well as equally outrageous trade-up offers they made.Gotta have a dance partner for that to happen
Sure but there are limitations. For example they couldn't move up high enough to get Bowers in 2024.People often say this, but every year after the draft, we hear reports of outrageous offers the Rams turned down, as well as equally outrageous trade-up offers they made.
Also, this is the second year in a row that the Rams have participated in a trade involving a 1st/2nd being moved for a future 1st/2nd plus draft capital in that current year.
I've no doubt that they could do this every year if they wanted to.
To be clear, I was commenting on the theory that they could always flip a 1st-rounder for a future 1st plus something in the current draft...if they wanted to. IMO, we've seen it enough such that if a GM were committed to that, it could be done. I think Philly's done a bit of this in the last 5 years.Sure but there are limitations. For example they couldn't move up high enough to get Bowers in 2024.
The Rams' first round pick next April figures to be in the 20s (hope it's #32 overall!). Atlanta's #1 pick could be no higher than the late-teens. If that's the case, it would be difficult for the Rams to move into the top-5.
By comparison, the Browns' and Jaguars' picks could easily both be top-10, giving Cleveland a much better chance at the top-QB prospect.
What is exciting, is that this may be an exciting year for college QBs, making the 2026 Draft really interesting.
Upper 20's to #32. As far as WE figure.The Rams' first round pick next April figures to be in the 20s (hope it's #32 overall!).
Based off of what? They could end up anywhere from #1 to #32. What's likely? Anything. I look at their schedule and see anywhere from 8 losses to 12.Atlanta's #1 pick could be no higher than the late-teens. If that's the case, it would be difficult for the Rams to move into the top-5.
Hope so ... 2025 Rams look good ... lot of good teams teams in the NFC and it's a long season.Upper 20's to #32. As far as WE figure.
Sure. Anything is possible. Kind of my point above.Based off of what? They could end up anywhere from #1 to #32.
The Rams unsuccessfully attempted to move up in the last 2 drafts (allegedly), so I think your post kind of contradicts itselfPeople often say this, but every year after the draft, we hear reports of outrageous offers the Rams turned down, as well as equally outrageous trade-up offers they made.
Also, this is the second year in a row that the Rams have participated in a trade involving a 1st/2nd being moved for a future 1st/2nd plus draft capital in that current year.
I've no doubt that they could do this every year if they wanted to.
It's an easier sell if you are already close to dominating the league and you can tell the target that he is the final piece of the jigsaw.if the player being targeted is high in demand
I look at 2 things with the Falcons.Sure. Anything is possible. Kind of my point above.
Personally, I think the Falcons are between a 7-10 win-team. Middle-of-the-pack ... may compete for a playoff spot in a division with two weak teams (Carolina and New Orleans).
Also think the Falcons have talent on offense, with 7 former first rounders starting. 6 more than the Rams.
On defense, their Pass Rush was a 2024 weakness (31st in sacks) but they added four pass rushers, including two well-regarded first rounders.
Not a fan of schedule review to evaluate how a team will do. As much depends upon WHEN you a play an opponent, as WHO are those opponents.
You don’t have to sell the player, you have to have a team agree to trade with you.It's an easier sell if you are already close to dominating the league and you can tell the target that he is the final piece of the jigsaw.