Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?

[Merlin]

Typically, QBs are overdrafted. And it definitely has something to do with that 5th year option. Tagging a LB or IOL is nowhere near as costly as tagging a QB. So if you're gonna reach, reach for a QB.

The term "reach" is subjective anyway. 32 different scouting departments, I doubt you can get 3 to totally agree on any one prospect. I've always believed, if you like a guy, better to grab him a little higher than wait and miss out on him altogether.

Some say "reach"? Fuck em. Get the guy you're committed to because of your scouting process. Like the heated debate earlier this year about the "wasted" 10 mil on Tutu, win the SB and people can say it's a waste (or that any particular pick was a reach) but if your holding the Lombardi it's irrelevant and frankly bad form.

Agreed. However even with reaches considered and accepted due to supply/demand I think teams have adjusted board slots that account for it. So for example with Simpson they'll have him slotted somewhere with that stuff built in. Where will that be? Who the fuck knows but my guess is late first round would be the absolute earliest for him (even round 2 feels like a reach given his one starting season).

But you're right that evaluation is subjective, and I expect McVay is only going to want the QB he has a good whiteboard bro session with. Any of these guys he doesn't hit it off with won't be in play. This is why he may end up identifying one of them that baffles us, like Klubnik for example. That's sort of what happened with Bennett, was a complete surprise to me at least.

Anyway in that adjusted board there's going to be cutoff levels with these QBs where they don't consider them in certain buckets as Les calls them. So to carry on the example if they target Klubnik (which would be kind of funny to annoy OS tbh) I'm pretty sure he won't be in consideration for late round 1. Probably talking round 3 there. Would sure love to see that board, even the early version and where they have these guys pre-slotted.

 

[jrry32]

It's not a guarantee that Chambliss returns to Ole Miss; he's already a redshirt senior who has already had five years, including the redshirt. He's asking for a sixth year, and it's not a guarantee that he gets the medical hardship. It's up to the NCAA, and it won't be solved until Ole Miss is out of the playoffs. Until then, I'm hoping it's not granted.

I was high on Simpson early in the year, but his recent performances left a very bad taste in my mouth. I don't think he has the arm strength to execute our entire offensive concept; particularly the long out-breakers towards the sidelines. To be fair to him, Stafford - and probably Mahomes - are the only quarterbacks I can think of who might be able to execute it to its peak, but I've soured a lot on Simpson over his past few games.

His arm strength is on par with Goff's. Goff executed the offense. Stafford is a rare talent.

 

[Memento]

His arm strength is on par with Goff's. Goff executed the offense. Stafford is a rare talent.

I just have to disagree about Simpson being on par with Goff's. Goff has a fantastic arm, much better than Simpson's, and his anticipation and accuracy is at least the same, if not better. The issue with Goff is that under pressure, there's no escapability, and he makes poor decisions. Simpson does not have the arm talent Goff has. I don't think he'll ever have the capability of executing everything our offense needs to do.

 

[dieterbrock]

I just have to disagree about Simpson being on par with Goff's.

I dont know how to equate this one way or the other
From what I've seen on Simpson, inside 30 yards he 100% matches up with Goff, I dont recall seeing Ty throw a bomb
My concern with Goff was that he has an elongated release and while he could chuck it 50+ yards, he would need a heck of a clean pocket to do so
Simpson to my eye looks like he's got a little bit more on his throws but a lot of that is due to a seemingly quicker release
I'd be good with Ty with the 32nd pick

 

[Ramstien]

I'll trust Snead on this one.

 

[jrry32]

I just have to disagree about Simpson being on par with Goff's. Goff has a fantastic arm, much better than Simpson's, and his anticipation and accuracy is at least the same, if not better. The issue with Goff is that under pressure, there's no escapability, and he makes poor decisions. Simpson does not have the arm talent Goff has. I don't think he'll ever have the capability of executing everything our offense needs to do.

I hear ya. I don't see the same thing you do. The size critique is legit. He's a smaller guy. But the arm looks fine to me. I see him hitting plenty of in- and out-breakers in the intermediate range on tape. He's not Mahomes or Stafford, but he's certainly comparable to a number of Pro Bowl QBs over the past 10-15 years. I think he has a lot in common with Brock Purdy, personally.

 

[Memento]

I hear ya. I don't see the same thing you do. The size critique is legit. He's a smaller guy. But the arm looks fine to me. I see him hitting plenty of in- and out-breakers in the intermediate range on tape. He's not Mahomes or Stafford, but he's certainly comparable to a number of Pro Bowl QBs over the past 10-15 years. I think he has a lot in common with Brock Purdy, personally.

Personally, I don't think Brock Purdy would ever be the same in an offense like ours where you rely on those intermediate-to-long corner/dig/sail throws. I don't think he or Simpson have that arm potential, and I can agree with a Brock Purdy comparison. I think Simpson would be an outstanding quarterback in a system like San Fran's. I don't think he'd be a good player in our system.

I do think Chambliss has a chance to excel in our system and fits the mold of our team, the more I look at him. I see a better overall arm on him than Simpson (not the same anticipation as Simpson, but a stronger arm that is just as accurate), having watched them both, I see more athleticism and escapability, I think he has the frame to survive in the NFL where Simpson might not, and he's shone under bright lights and has shown a lot more resilience (coming from a small FCS school with excellent and similar stats there, going to Ole Miss as a backup, doing amazing this season when the starter - who is going to Mizzou, by the way. We'll see how he does, but I'm not optimistic. - went down, fighting for a College Playoff Championship even after his snake of a head coach - and calling Lame Kitten a "snake" might be an insult to snakes - and a lot of his staff jumped ship, etc.), while Simpson has badly floundered in better circumstances.

For my money, unless Stafford has said he's retiring after this year, I go into 2026/2027 with him as my quarterback, take Chris Johnson (CB, SDSU) at #13 without hesitation if he's there and trade out of our second first to get more picks in the second and third round (where I think the real talent is; I think around the 15-60 picks, there's an equivalent amount of talent where you could justify a trade out of the first round) or possibly even a 2027 second day pick in addition. That's what I would do rather than draft a quarterback this year because other than Mendoza, Moore, and Chambliss - if the latter two even come out - this quarterback class is awful, and I don't see a quarterback I'd want as Stafford's successor other than those three.

 

[jrry32]

Personally, I don't think Brock Purdy would ever be the same in an offense like ours where you rely on those intermediate-to-long corner/dig/sail throws. I don't think he or Simpson have that arm potential, and I can agree with a Brock Purdy comparison. I think Simpson would be an outstanding quarterback in a system like San Fran's. I don't think he'd be a good player in our system.

I do think Chambliss has a chance to excel in our system and fits the mold of our team, the more I look at him. I see a better overall arm on him than Simpson (not the same anticipation as Simpson, but a stronger arm that is just as accurate), having watched them both, I see more athleticism and escapability, I think he has the frame to survive in the NFL where Simpson might not, and he's shone under bright lights and has shown a lot more resilience (coming from a small FCS school with excellent and similar stats there, going to Ole Miss as a backup, doing amazing this season when the starter - who is going to Mizzou, by the way. We'll see how he does, but I'm not optimistic. - went down, fighting for a College Playoff Championship even after his head coach and a lot of his staff jumped ship, etc.), while Simpson has badly floundered in better circumstances.

For my money, unless Stafford has said he's retiring after this year, I go into 2026/2027 with him as my quarterback, take Chris Johnson (CB, SDSU) at #13 without hesitation if he's there and trade out of our second first to get more picks in the second and third round (where I think the real talent is; I think around the 15-60 picks, there's an equivalent amount of talent where you could justify a trade out of the first round) or possibly even a 2027 second day pick in addition. That's what I would do rather than draft a quarterback this year because other than Mendoza, Moore, and Chambliss - if the latter two even come out - this quarterback class is awful, and I don't see a quarterback I'd want other than those three.

Again, it's not a question of Chambliss vs. Simpson at this time. Chambliss has not yet declared for the Draft and hired a lawyer so he could get another year of eligibility. Until he declares, I'm assuming he's not an option. I'll also add that I believe Purdy could succeed here. McVay is adaptable.

 

[Memento]

Again, it's not a question of Chambliss vs. Simpson at this time. Chambliss has not yet declared for the Draft and hired a lawyer so he could get another year of eligibility. Until he declares, I'm assuming he's not an option.

Fair enough. Moore hasn't declared either, so I don't know what's going to happen. I just don't want Simpson as the guy we take behind Stafford. I don't think he has the arm talent to justify using #13 or trading up - which we would likely have to do with the way quarterbacks get propped up every year - for him.