Cleveland fans had a lot of the same complaints Rams fans had about Shurmur, and honestly, he wasn't ready to be a head coach.
Homgren, who was CLE's President and was PS mentor pulled the playcalling duties from him because he was stinking it up.
He's definitely NOT the same guy and deserves credit for expanding and growing as a play caller and designer. He learned from others around him, smart of him IMO.
Is he a backup or is he *somebody's* starter?
Surfer you KNOW he will be a starter next year and IMO probably in MINN. Why would they let a guy go when he fits their system? It would be dumb and Zimmer and his group are not dumb.
It will prove out over time I think. If he's a starter it will show through him winning that job and holding on to it over time. Since he's a guy who's been around the decision on whether they keep/re-sign him will depend on how he plays down the stretch and into the playoffs, but even if he struggles and costs them in the playoffs he will probably get a long look somewhere else at a minimum.
Oh and btw this offseason is going to have an insane QB market. Take a look at impending FAs and guys who project to be available, and it's going to cause a lot of tumult around the league. Granted some of these guys will get locked up but here's the noteworthy ones:
Brees
Cousins
Carr
Bradford
Keenum
Bridgewater
Garoppolo
And a bunch of backup types
Depending on how the top three are handled this offseason has the potential to alter the power structure of this league. And one team that might be shopping is the Vikes.
Haha the Vikings FO is butt-clenched right now. Week 12 and they don't have a QB under contract for next year!!
Good point about the top 3, it could shift things big time and turn three winners/losers into losers/winners.
The real question is... can you win a Super Bowl with Keenum. And the answer is HELL NO. And that's the same answer for the Alex Smith's/Prescott's/Cousins(might be an exception but always does the dumbest crap at the end of the game to lose it for you) of the world.
You can win a SB with him, and for sure with the three you mentioned. Cousins is a top QB in the league and he plays on a shit team.
Look at the list of SB winning QB's. At least 10 are worse than all 4 of the guys we are talking about. Or at least worse versus Keenum's play this year.
Good for case because he is a good guy and works hard . However he is not an elite qb talent, Bradford looked great this season too before he got hurt.
He looked up and down, as he always did. Remember something.
Bradford went 8-8 with this same Vikings team. Keenum is doing a really good job and he is contributing to wins.
Funny how Sam Bradford’s name is rarely even brought up any more in Minny, or Philly, or STL.
FIFY,
There are quarterbacks that have won the Superbowl that are second-tier quarterbacks like Keenum is.
Hostetler.
That's all we need to say.