What Vikings Fans Are Saying

[Raptorman]

NFL rule book Rule 7, section 2 Article 1:d:1

Note: Defenders are required to treat a sliding runner as they would a runner who is down by contact. (1) A defender must pull up when a runner begins a feet-first slide. This does not mean that all contact by a defender is illegal. If a defender has already committed himself, and the contact is unavoidable, it is not a foul unless the defender commits some other act, such as helmet-to-helmet contact or by driving his forearm or shoulder into the head or neck area of the runner.

The fact that he hit him in the head with the forearm make it a penalty. It matters not if he intended to or not. It's the act that gets flagged, not the intent.

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

You guys really need to learn about the slides. The Rule is this, when a QB goes down feet forward he is giving himself up. Period. Teddy went feet forward. Any hit on the QB once he does that is a penalty. Period. Even if the Defensive player trips and lands on top of the QB.

Aw hell, your semi quotation of the rule is true, Wussel and kreaperdick have that slide mastered, then again that was a total horse soup call (defensive holding on 3rd and 18, just beforehand) forgive the players if they weren't feeling a little chippy, I hate that's slide rule, take your win and be happy

My god your schedule now gets over the top brutal

Good Luck

 

[RamBall]

You guys really need to learn about the slides. The Rule is this, when a QB goes down feet forward he is giving himself up. Period. Teddy went feet forward. Any hit on the QB once he does that is a penalty. Period. Even if the Defensive player trips and lands on top of the QB.

Watch the replay, Joyner was lowering his shoulder before TB slid and tried to pull off but had no time. The more I watch the replay the more it appears to be a flop by TB, he rolled over and also never let go of the ball, if he had been knocked out cold he would not have rolled over after coming to a stop and probably would have let go of the ball not clutch it tighter. Mike Zimmer is a BITCH did you hear his crying in the post game presser.

 

[PowayRamFan]

Mike Zimmer, red nosed little bitch, looked like he did some crying in the locker room not just at the podium.

 

[RamBall]

The fact that he hit him in the head with the forearm make it a penalty. It matters not if he intended to or not. It's the act that gets flagged, not the intent.

It did not happen whan TB was a passer, he was a ball carrier. If he wants to avoid the hit he had plenty of time to slide, he chose to slide as the hit was coming, he then rolled over and clutched the ball tighter after closing his eyes, total flop to get the sympathy of the officials, if he were out cold he would have laid there after hitting the ground, not roll over. And if I'm wrong on my flop opinion, he still chose to take that hit when he could have slid before Joyner went for the tackle as RW often does. My guess is that TB will respect the DB next time he is in that situation.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Jesus, I'd love to have that talk if someone took TG out like that.

There were a awful lot of tackles around Gurleys knees today. One could say the Vikings were targetting them. It goes both ways.

 

[blue4]

My sister-in-law and her newborn just showed up for a visit. The infant is not crying as much as Mike Zimmer.

 

[Raptorman]

It did not happen whan TB was a passer, he was a ball carrier. If he wants to avoid the hit he had plenty of time to slide, he chose to slide as the hit was coming, he then rolled over and clutched the ball tighter after closing his eyes, total flop to get the sympathy of the officials, if he were out cold he would have laid there after hitting the ground, not roll over. And if I'm wrong on my flop opinion, he still chose to take that hit when he could have slid before Joyner went for the tackle as RW often does. My guess is that TB will respect the DB next time he is in that situation.

QB's running the ball are different than RB's. When it happens to your QB see if you feel the same.

 

[jrry32]

QB's running the ball are different than RB's. When it happens to your QB see if you feel the same.

Shows how little you know. The same sort of thing happened to our QB as he was running out of bounds in 2013.

 

[RamBall]

QB's running the ball are different than RB's. When it happens to your QB see if you feel the same.

Our QB knows to slide before the hit is coming, and in my opinion Foles woulda got up and continued on after a shot like that. I have seen him get up after much more violent hits than that. Did you happen to see the hit Clay Mathews made on Foles in the GB game, crown of the helmet to the sternum and drove him to the ground, no foul called, but Foles got right up and continued on, it was a much more violent hit and a flagarant penalty. Were we happy? No, but we didnt continually cry about it, its football players get hit. As mentioned above, QBs that are acustomed to running the ball know to slide earlier than as the defender is coming in for the hit.

 

[shovelpass]

Please, you can get fined for wearing the incorrect brand of shoes. They routinely hand out fines for no call plays all the time. Joyner will get fined because a precious QB got to play football for a play and now a fan base is enraged.
And like I said before, I'd feel the same if it was Foles. If he wanted to protect himself, he should have started sliding 5 yards before Joyner. Instead, he wanted the extra yardage, but without having to be tackled.

Yeah, the rules in the nfl are bullshit. People get fined for socks, and stickers on their eyes, hell people get fined for shit they wear during press conferences.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

You guys really need to learn about the slides. The Rule is this, when a QB goes down feet forward he is giving himself up. Period. Teddy went feet forward. Any hit on the QB once he does that is a penalty. Period. Even if the Defensive player trips and lands on top of the QB.

If there is no dander bearing down on he QB he has no reason to slide. One can easily say that Teddy should have slid sooner instead of waiting until the last second. He could even have trade to get hit on purpose for the 15 yarder and it backfired.

Next time he will slide sooner. He gambled and he lost.

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

Truth be told teddy was playing so poorly I was pissed at Joyner for "allegedly" knocking him out

I'm pretty sure Joyner wasn't deliberately trying to injure him, what a whinney little bitch Coach Zimmerman has made of himself

 

[RhodyRams]

Sorry but the hit on TBW , no matter what that Richard cranium Mike Zimmer says, wasnt dirty. He committed to the slide late. Personal foul..maybe..intentional..no way in hell


And Zimmer was wrong to call out GW in the post game presser

 

[Josey-Wales]

Whatever side of the fence you're on, determines how you will see and interpret the hit on Bridgewater, no one is going to convince anyone otherwise.

Do I think he was trying to hurt Teddy? No, but it was a dumb and unnecessary hit, nonetheless. FTR, I get both sides of the "QB's getting the powder puff treatment", argument BTW, and in the big scheme of things, I'm not a fan of the "protect the QB at all cost" mentality at all.

I didn't see any dirty play from the Rams, and certainly didn't see anything that would warrant labeling them with the "Dirty Team" moniker. They play hard, hit hard, and that's football, nothing wrong with that at all! The CB's are very "grabby", but they were also penalized numerous times for it. Most good corners are grabby, to a certain extent, but the great ones know how to disguise it where it isn't as obvious and easily detected. The Rams corners were very good in coverage, and I didn't see a ton of Vikings receivers running wide open down the field.

I didn't come back to rub anyone's nose in a loss, but just wanted to say "Good Game", and wish you all success throughout the remainder of your schedule! I know most fans don't want to talk to the opposition post-loss, so I won't be hanging around and will let you deal with the frustration of a close loss, something that we've all dealt with numerous times.

I'll close by saying, I appreciate everyone's hospitality and the good conversation with a lot of good posters throughout the week leading up to the game. I also think you guys have a GREAT board here that gets a ton of traffic, with a tremendous amount of game day traffic. I wish I could find a Vikings site with the same amount of action you guys have.

Thanks again, and my apologies for posting in the game day thread, I didn't realize opposing fans weren't allowed.

Cheers!

 

[Josey-Wales]

One last thing, just saw on the NFL Network that Joyner grew up across the tracks from Teddy, and they knew each other as kids. Joyner gave a press release saying that, " I know this guy and would never try to hurt him, and If I could take it back, I would".

Very Classy!

 

[SuperMan28]

Are the Vikings fans still crying about that? Wow.

He'll be fine in a week or two. You got the penalty, get over it.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

Let me preface this by saying I am ok with the penalty call. But...

QB's running the ball are different than RB's. When it happens to your QB see if you feel the same.

I disagree with this. A runner is a runner. Especially once having crossed the line of scrimmage. You don't let up until he begins to slide and you hope he is dumb enough not to slide so you can lay the wood and convince him to never scramble again. Only once he starts slide do you try and let up, simply to avoid the penalty (Which I believe Joyner tried to do). If you are a QB and you want to run it, expect to get smacked like a RB. It isn't dirty to hit a QB who wants to run like a RB, like a running back.

 

[MTRamsFan]

Joyner will get fined and that will be the end of it. Nothing vicious, blatant and/or dirty about the play. It was unfortunate and Joyner apologized in his post-game interview. Time for Viqueen fans to move onto the next game.

 

[Raptorman]

Let me preface this by saying I am ok with the penalty call. But...


I disagree with this. A runner is a runner. Especially once having crossed the line of scrimmage. You don't let up until he begins to slide and you hope he is dumb enough not to slide so you can lay the wood and convince him to never scramble again. Only once he starts slide do you try and let up, simply to avoid the penalty (Which I believe Joyner tried to do). If you are a QB and you want to run it, expect to get smacked like a RB. It isn't dirty to hit a QB who wants to run like a RB, like a running back.

Any player that slides feet first gets the same protection. It is the sign that they are giving up. Say's so in the No Fun League rule book.