What to do with Jonah Jackson?

  • To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.

Kupped

Legend
Joined
Aug 5, 2021
Messages
8,998
Name
Kupped
When have the rams shown they care about dead cap? If he was better tha Avila he would've started over him...he didn't. Keeping him as depth sets a bad precedent for the entire team. If you're not performing up to your contract it's time to go. If that wasn't the case, kupp wouldn't be getting shopped.
But.. Jackson wasn't signed to be a center.
And keeping him around is similar to keeping Noteboom around, which they did. I'm not defending keeping Boom.. I'm just pointing out precedence.
 

Giles

Hall of Fame
Joined
Jun 24, 2014
Messages
2,026
Name
Giles
But.. Jackson wasn't signed to be a center.
And keeping him around is similar to keeping Noteboom around, which they did. I'm not defending keeping Boom.. I'm just pointing out precedence.
He wasn't signed to be a backup either and that's what he's gonna be more than likely. A very expensive backup aka a mistake. We have rumors of kupp and Stafford being traded while we have backups making hella money. I see that as an issue, that should've been avoidable.
 

Giles

Hall of Fame
Joined
Jun 24, 2014
Messages
2,026
Name
Giles
He should be given a chance to compete for the starting center position. There's a decent chance he beats Limmer out for that at which point he won't just be depth.
We tried that last year and he was terrible. JJ is simply not a better center than Limmer and if he does magically beat him out (which I think that will be due to his large salary if he does) he'll be replaced at some point in the season due to not being a good center. Having him at center is like having boon at guard imo.
 

Kupped

Legend
Joined
Aug 5, 2021
Messages
8,998
Name
Kupped
He wasn't signed to be a backup either and that's what he's gonna be more than likely. A very expensive backup aka a mistake. We have rumors of kupp and Stafford being traded while we have backups making hella money. I see that as an issue, that should've been avoidable.
Noteboom wasn't supposed to be a backup.
If you keep Stafford, it probably is a good idea to keep Jackson. The fact that Limmer makes almost nothing makes it palatable.

Ideal, nope.. but it could go either way.

Me? I certainly wouldn't cut him.. I'd keep him and play him extensively at guard in preseason to see what happens. I think it would raise his value in a potential trade, and you can salvage something. You'll also open up money for potential trade targets, at that point.
 

Merlin

Damn the torpedoes
Rams On Demand Sponsor
ROD Credit | 2023 TOP Member
Joined
May 8, 2014
Messages
41,528
Jonah Jackson's issue is durability, which the Rams knew when they signed him. It was a poor signing because they were wrong in their estimation that Avila could play Center. This left them with three starting level Guards, and the one on the depth chart is making starter money.

So what I would do in camp next year is move Jackson officially to the pivot. That is the position he needs to win in order to start. Period. He will also be the first depth option potentially for both Guard spots, though that depends on the relative performance of both Limmer and Dedich in camp next year. In other words if Limmer loses a narrow battle to Jackson at Center, or beats Jackson out at Center, then Jackson is first man off the bench for both Guard spots.

It may be possible to move Jackson if some team is interested in him. There has been a focus by teams of late in building the interior of their lines. But the Rams cannot afford to make another salary dump move in an offseason where they are already doing that with Kupp. They want to contend, not use all their resources to bandage the roster. It is ok to have extra quality on the interior OL for 2025 if they can get that slot role upgraded and add those defensive pieces we need to make the defense great again.
 

DzRams

Pro Bowler
Joined
Mar 12, 2024
Messages
1,181
Name
Desmal M
We tried that last year and he was terrible. JJ is simply not a better center than Limmer and if he does magically beat him out (which I think that will be due to his large salary if he does) he'll be replaced at some point in the season due to not being a good center. Having him at center is like having boon at guard imo.
We tried JJ at center one week before the season started and then he got injured. Once he was healthy they tossed him in at center with very little prep time. It's not surprising that the timing and working with Stafford were off. They went back to Limmer for stability and consistency reasons.

Give him a full off-season and training camp and it may very well be different. I'm in the let's keep him camp because Limmer was just ok. It would be nice to get better than what Limmer provided so it's soon to get rid of other options especially since we wouldn't save much on the salary cap.
 

Jacobarch

Legend
Joined
Mar 28, 2016
Messages
5,814
Name
Jake
When have the rams shown they care about dead cap? If he was better tha Avila he would've started over him...he didn't. Keeping him as depth sets a bad precedent for the entire team. If you're not performing up to your contract it's time to go. If that wasn't the case, kupp wouldn't be getting shopped.

Steve Brule GIF by MOODMAN
 

Jacobarch

Legend
Joined
Mar 28, 2016
Messages
5,814
Name
Jake
Dotson got a false start call on the same drive.

That's not the play that killed the drive. Limmer not having the right protection call and straight up whiffing on Carter was the back breaking play
 

gogoat1

Pro Bowler
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
1,366
Name
Troy
You keep him. Insurance.
The Offensive line is the most important unit on a football team. Keep as many good ones on the roster as you can.
He can play multiple positions.
He might save out butt.
Need to sign Stafford and need the players to keep him upright.
 

Neil039

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Apr 3, 2020
Messages
4,317
Sadly, fans have become accustomed over the past 4-5 years to having an OL with a bad contact.
 

So Ram

Legend
Camp Reporter
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
15,572
I'm talking about JONAH Jackson not Alaric. I want Alaric back on a 4 year deal. He's my #1 priority behind Stafford.
Well I’m different.I want to Trade Mattew Stafford!!

Why The Rams didn’t sign Alaric Jackson to that 4 year deal you want now . Sort of SILLY he didn’t get a nice 3 year contract,that would have helped The Rams & Alaric Jackson. Giving security & a chance for another contract inside his prime.It would have worked out for bought parties??

Johan Jackson adds depth,but he could earn a starting spot.It pushes everyone to get better upfront. - ESPECIALLY if your the ONE who wants Mattew Stafford.

He is a pocket passer who needs to take less 7 plus steps.He has no side vision (peripheral) IMO or focus to much down field.
 

So Ram

Legend
Camp Reporter
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
15,572
I think you have to keep him unless some team blows you away with an amazing trade offer. He's potentially a great depth piece and we seriously don't know all that was going on with his health last season.
Who says he doesn’t earn the starting Center Spot either.He looked good against the Seahags & Mcvay could only say good things about him accepting the backup role.
 

So Ram

Legend
Camp Reporter
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
15,572
He should be given a chance to compete for the starting center position. There's a decent chance he beats Limmer out for that at which point he won't just be depth.
Exactly!!!
 

RamFan503

Grill and Brew Master
Moderator
Joined
Jun 24, 2010
Messages
35,342
Name
Stu
Who says he doesn’t earn the starting Center Spot either.He looked good against the Seahags & Mcvay could only say good things about him accepting the backup role.
I'm certainly not. He very well could take over any of three spots - most likely of which is Center. Otherwise, I think we could definitely do worse at back-up positions along the line. Is that good value? Clearly not unless he does move into a starting role by either winning it (best case) or via attrition.
 

WestCoastRam

Legend
Joined
Nov 17, 2014
Messages
6,566
Near consensus on the right move on this one, cats and dogs probably living together right now.
 

Ramhusker

Rams On Demand Sponsor
Rams On Demand Sponsor
Joined
Jul 15, 2010
Messages
15,028
Name
Bo Bowen
I gotta believe Jackson hangs around and gets a shot at redemption. What else can the Rams do? They already paid him so why not see if he can give you what you asked for this season. Good luck getting a good deal with moving him. He’s a vet at least. If that is the road you take, Noteboom will be on the move regardless of the return. That 1st round pick might lean towards an OT a little bit harder.
 

Cjcinec

Rookie
Joined
Aug 29, 2019
Messages
399
Name
Chris C.
Jackson is a sunk cost for 2025 so it makes no sense to try to trade him. He was brought in to replace Shelton who was the WEAK link in the Rams interior. Jackson suffered an injury early in camp and by the time he was healthy Limmer had taken over the center position. The low cost of Limmer allows the Rams to keep Jackson for either a starting or backup and keep the depth that they have in their interior offensive line. That’s important with a QB like Stafford. I say get Limmer some reps at both guard positions and play your best 3 interior offensive linemen regardless of contract. Limmer played good but also showed his inexperience at times. Jackson can be cut pretty cheaply after 2025. The last thing you want to see is a cost saving mood followed by an injury to an IOL.
 

HE WITH HORNS

Hall of Fame
Joined
Feb 16, 2013
Messages
4,207
Let him compete for a starting spot. He won't get Dotson's spot barring injury, and he probably won't get Avila's spot. But if he beats out Limmer or not, we still will have the same amount of money tied up in the Oline either way.
The only reason we are having this conversation is because Limmer was a great late round pick, and played good, but not great football as a rookie.
Too many starting caliber Olinemen is a good problem to have.