What the Panther fans are saying

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I actually said QB is a push.
Cam gives you more options with his legs, size and athleticism.

Gives Ogletree a chance to practice for Russell Wilson :lol:

Only Cam is built like a LB, Wilson is much easier to bring down. You do have a hardy advantage in coaching.

As for your DT's, we have All Pro Ryan Kalil back at C and our line is starting to come together. Your LDE is going against out weak link in UDFA RT Byron Bell. He struggles against quick guys and outside speed rushers. He's a powerful guy so you rarely see power guys effect him much.

IMO, this whole game is going to come down to the Rams being able to run the ball effectively, and them being able to contain Newton while limiting the damage DeAngelo Williams can do. I'd much rather see the Rams *force* the Panthers into a shootout in this one than to see who can control the clock for 4 quarters. Our D's primary strength is geared around getting after the QB. Not stopping the run.

I think the game will come down to what team shows up...on both sides. Both teams are hard to get a bead on.

Running the ball will be important for the Rams...so will be forcing turnovers and playing a clean game in terms of penalties.

Agreed. But all things being equal, I think it's going to boil down to keeping Carolina from running the ball effectively. They can control the game that way.

 

[jrry32]

Agreed. But all things being equal, I think it's going to boil down to keeping Carolina from running the ball effectively. They can control the game that way.

Believe it or not, that might actually be good. Newton and Rivera have an atrocious record in close games. I think they're like 2-14 or something like that. :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Agreed. But all things being equal, I think it's going to boil down to keeping Carolina from running the ball effectively. They can control the game that way.

Believe it or not, that might actually be good. Newton and Rivera have an atrocious record in close games. I think they're like 2-14 or something like that. :lol:

I don't think it would be a good, I think an effective run game assures a Carolina win. It's not like you're bringing a potent offense to the east coast.

 

[iced]

Agreed. But all things being equal, I think it's going to boil down to keeping Carolina from running the ball effectively. They can control the game that way.

Believe it or not, that might actually be good. Newton and Rivera have an atrocious record in close games. I think they're like 2-14 or something like that. :lol:

I don't think it would be a good, I think an effective run game assures a Carolina win. It's not like you're bringing a potent offense to the east coast.

31 and 38 Total Points I'll take the past 2 weeks

especially against the "#1 ranked Pass defense in the NFL" (Houston last week)

 

[Anonymous]

Perhaps Houston's pass D was so good because all you had to do was run on them.

Panthers have a very balanced D.

 

[jrry32]

Peterson had 62 yards and no TDs against the Panthers. 31 of those came in mop up minutes with the game clearly out of hand. He was a non-factor out of the gate. Those 62 yards is his lowest outing since September of LAST season.

Honestly, you couldn't have seen that game if you claim AP did any damage. And that's fine. I wouldn't expect a Rams fan to be watching a Panthers game and vice versa. Especially seeing how they were being played at the same time.

I still find it funny that 62 yards from All Day, AP is being touted as him getting over on the Panthers based on a 6.2 YAC. Or how was it worded? It was the Rams that went away from him? Nice theory. I wonder why they would ever go away from him when he's averaging a killer 6.2 per clip???

Lets see. Peterson started out slow with his first 4 runs of the game going for a total of 1 yards. His next 3 runs went for 27 yards. Giving him 7 rushes for 28 yards at half. However, by the point they got the ball back in the 2nd half, they were down 21-3. His next 3 runs in the 3rd quarter went for 34 yards. By the end of the 3rd, he had 10 rushes for 62 yards but the Vikings were down 28-3.

When you are getting blown out and failing to sustain drives due to bad QB play, you don't tend to run the ball a lot.

But shutting down Peterson? BS.

Now, go ahead and make excuses as to why C.J. Spiller and Andre Ellington ran on your defense. Let me guess, "if you remove their longest run..." will start the sentence. :lol:

 

[GreeneCounty]

Fisher coaching skills will be reason Rams this game. Riveria is horrible.

 

[jrry32]

Perhaps Houston's pass D was so good because all you had to do was run on them.

Panthers have a very balanced D.

And yet we passed and ran on them with ease.

By the way, what you said is absolutely false.

Agreed. But all things being equal, I think it's going to boil down to keeping Carolina from running the ball effectively. They can control the game that way.

Believe it or not, that might actually be good. Newton and Rivera have an atrocious record in close games. I think they're like 2-14 or something like that. :lol:

I don't think it would be a good, I think an effective run game assures a Carolina win. It's not like you're bringing a potent offense to the east coast.

Neither are you. Your team has a habit of blowing close games. Ask EJ Manuel and Russell Wilson.

Doesn't "assure" anything.

 

[GreeneCounty]

Cam is very overrattedd.

 

[Anonymous]

Cam is very overrattedd.

Well at least you backed that up...


Houston is 25th against the run, why would teams try to pass on them when it's obvious you don't need to?

 

[iced]

Cam is very overrattedd.

Well at least you backed that up...


Houston is 25th against the run, why would teams try to pass on them when it's obvious you don't need to?

They were rated much higher before the niner game

by the way - as much as you like to talk about your line, keep in mind we did shut down the best defensive player in the game: JJ Watt...

 

[jrry32]

Cam is very overrattedd.

Well at least you backed that up...


Houston is 25th against the run, why would teams try to pass on them when it's obvious you don't need to?

They wouldn't. But that was also largely because they were one of the NFL's best against the pass through the first few weeks.

If your premise were true, logic would hold that while they'd be good in YPG...they'd be poor in all measures of efficiency since their pass defense isn't actually good...teams just choose not to pass. Unfortunately, it's not true. They were among the league's best in all efficiency related passing numbers except passer rating...which was right around league average. They were also #1 in the NFL in Sack%.

So your premise does not hold up under scrutiny.

 

[Rabid Ram]

Cam is very overrattedd.

Well at least you backed that up...


Houston is 25th against the run, why would teams try to pass on them when it's obvious you don't need to?

They were rated much higher before the niner game

They were much higher rated before the NFC West literally ran all over them

 

[GreeneCounty]

RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Peyton Manning, QB DEN 178 240 74.2 2,179 9.08 78 22 2 5 128.8 363
2 Philip Rivers, QB SD 162 223 72.6 1,847 8.28 56 14 5 10 108.7 308
3 Tony Romo, QB DAL 153 218 70.2 1,693 7.77 82 14 3 14 108.6 282
4 Drew Brees, QB NO 157 237 66.2 1,958 8.26 67 14 5 14 102.6 326
5 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 118 184 64.1 1,646 8.95 83 10 4 14 101.9 329
6 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 151 218 69.3 1,649 7.56 81 10 3 9 100.9 330
7 Jake Locker, QB TEN 69 111 62.2 721 6.50 35 6 0 9 99.0 180
8 Jay Cutler, QB CHI 143 217 65.9 1,630 7.51 58 12 6 9 95.2 272
9 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 150 239 62.8 1,772 7.41 77 12 4 9 95.0 295
10 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 97 158 61.4 1,254 7.94 55 8 4 17 92.6 209
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
11 Sam Bradford, QB STL 138 232 59.5 1,432 6.17 47 13 3 13 90.7 239
12 Michael Vick, QB PHI 71 132 53.8 1,185 8.98 70 5 2 14 90.6 237
13 Andrew Luck, QB IND 115 186 61.8 1,346 7.24 73 7 3 13 89.6 224
14 Cam Newton, QB CAR 93 153 60.8 1,127 7.37 79 9 5 16 89.4 225
15 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 126 192 65.6 1,495 7.79 55 6 5 18 88.8 299
16 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 140 215 65.1 1,552 7.22 61 8 6 14 87.2 259
17 Ryan Tannehill, QB MIA 114 182 62.6 1,383 7.60 67 6 5 24 85.5 277
18 Terrelle Pryor, QB OAK 89 138 64.5 1,061 7.69 73 5 5 21 84.8 212
19 Colin Kaepernick, QB SF 90 161 55.9 1,221 7.58 64 8 5 13 83.9 204
20 Brian Hoyer, QB CLE 57 96 59.4 615 6.41 47 5 3 6 82.6

 

[Rabid Ram]

RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Peyton Manning, QB DEN 178 240 74.2 2,179 9.08 78 22 2 5 128.8 363
2 Philip Rivers, QB SD 162 223 72.6 1,847 8.28 56 14 5 10 108.7 308
3 Tony Romo, QB DAL 153 218 70.2 1,693 7.77 82 14 3 14 108.6 282
4 Drew Brees, QB NO 157 237 66.2 1,958 8.26 67 14 5 14 102.6 326
5 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 118 184 64.1 1,646 8.95 83 10 4 14 101.9 329
6 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 151 218 69.3 1,649 7.56 81 10 3 9 100.9 330
7 Jake Locker, QB TEN 69 111 62.2 721 6.50 35 6 0 9 99.0 180
8 Jay Cutler, QB CHI 143 217 65.9 1,630 7.51 58 12 6 9 95.2 272
9 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 150 239 62.8 1,772 7.41 77 12 4 9 95.0 295
10 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 97 158 61.4 1,254 7.94 55 8 4 17 92.6 209
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
11 Sam Bradford, QB STL 138 232 59.5 1,432 6.17 47 13 3 13 90.7 239
12 Michael Vick, QB PHI 71 132 53.8 1,185 8.98 70 5 2 14 90.6 237
13 Andrew Luck, QB IND 115 186 61.8 1,346 7.24 73 7 3 13 89.6 224
14 Cam Newton, QB CAR 93 153 60.8 1,127 7.37 79 9 5 16 89.4 225
15 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 126 192 65.6 1,495 7.79 55 6 5 18 88.8 299
16 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 140 215 65.1 1,552 7.22 61 8 6 14 87.2 259
17 Ryan Tannehill, QB MIA 114 182 62.6 1,383 7.60 67 6 5 24 85.5 277
18 Terrelle Pryor, QB OAK 89 138 64.5 1,061 7.69 73 5 5 21 84.8 212
19 Colin Kaepernick, QB SF 90 161 55.9 1,221 7.58 64 8 5 13 83.9 204
20 Brian Hoyer, QB CLE 57 96 59.4 615 6.41 47 5 3 6 82.6

aand the point your making?

 

[GreeneCounty]

RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Peyton Manning, QB DEN 178 240 74.2 2,179 9.08 78 22 2 5 128.8 363
2 Philip Rivers, QB SD 162 223 72.6 1,847 8.28 56 14 5 10 108.7 308
3 Tony Romo, QB DAL 153 218 70.2 1,693 7.77 82 14 3 14 108.6 282
4 Drew Brees, QB NO 157 237 66.2 1,958 8.26 67 14 5 14 102.6 326
5 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 118 184 64.1 1,646 8.95 83 10 4 14 101.9 329
6 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 151 218 69.3 1,649 7.56 81 10 3 9 100.9 330
7 Jake Locker, QB TEN 69 111 62.2 721 6.50 35 6 0 9 99.0 180
8 Jay Cutler, QB CHI 143 217 65.9 1,630 7.51 58 12 6 9 95.2 272
9 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 150 239 62.8 1,772 7.41 77 12 4 9 95.0 295
10 Russell Wilson, QB SEA 97 158 61.4 1,254 7.94 55 8 4 17 92.6 209
RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
11 Sam Bradford, QB STL 138 232 59.5 1,432 6.17 47 13 3 13 90.7 239
12 Michael Vick, QB PHI 71 132 53.8 1,185 8.98 70 5 2 14 90.6 237
13 Andrew Luck, QB IND 115 186 61.8 1,346 7.24 73 7 3 13 89.6 224
14 Cam Newton, QB CAR 93 153 60.8 1,127 7.37 79 9 5 16 89.4 225
15 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 126 192 65.6 1,495 7.79 55 6 5 18 88.8 299
16 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 140 215 65.1 1,552 7.22 61 8 6 14 87.2 259
17 Ryan Tannehill, QB MIA 114 182 62.6 1,383 7.60 67 6 5 24 85.5 277
18 Terrelle Pryor, QB OAK 89 138 64.5 1,061 7.69 73 5 5 21 84.8 212
19 Colin Kaepernick, QB SF 90 161 55.9 1,221 7.58 64 8 5 13 83.9 204
20 Brian Hoyer, QB CLE 57 96 59.4 615 6.41 47 5 3 6 82.6

aand the point your making?

Bradford is about to crack top 10 and I am proud of him.

 

[Anonymous]

...yeah.

 

[MCO-Ther]

So the Panthers beating the Giants by 38 & the Vikings by 25 were hollow victories, while finishing +14 on the Jags and +25 on the imploding Texans are quality wins. Guess I'm not in Charlotte anymore.....

Seriously, this game is a coin flip. I think it will come down to Panthers offense vs Rams defense. If the Panthers can get into rhythm, protect Cam, and run the ball effectively early in the game, we are going to win.

If the Panthers aren't aggressive, drop balls, 3 and outs, give up multiple sacks, we deserve to lose.

This is an important game for both teams. Neither team is out of the playoff race yet but a loss here could be a deathblow, especially in your division.

 

[Rabid Ram]

Peterson had 62 yards and no TDs against the Panthers. 31 of those came in mop up minutes with the game clearly out of hand. He was a non-factor out of the gate. Those 62 yards is his lowest outing since September of LAST season.

Honestly, you couldn't have seen that game if you claim AP did any damage. And that's fine. I wouldn't expect a Rams fan to be watching a Panthers game and vice versa. Especially seeing how they were being played at the same time.

I still find it funny that 62 yards from All Day, AP is being touted as him getting over on the Panthers based on a 6.2 YAC. Or how was it worded? It was the Rams that went away from him? Nice theory. I wonder why they would ever go away from him when he's averaging a killer 6.2 per clip???

Lets see. Peterson started out slow with his first 4 runs of the game going for a total of 1 yards. His next 3 runs went for 27 yards. Giving him 7 rushes for 28 yards at half. However, by the point they got the ball back in the 2nd half, they were down 21-3. His next 3 runs in the 3rd quarter went for 34 yards. By the end of the 3rd, he had 10 rushes for 62 yards but the Vikings were down 28-3.
When you are getting blown out and failing to sustain drives due to bad QB play, you don't tend to run the ball a lot.

But shutting down Peterson? BS.

Now, go ahead and make excuses as to why C.J. Spiller and Andre Ellington ran on your defense. Let me guess, "if you remove their longest run..." will start the sentence. :lol:

Contained, non-threat, shut-down, poor day. however you want to verbalize it, that was peterson on sunday.

Realling emotionally from his sons brutal death

 

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So the Panthers beating the Giants by 38 & the Vikings by 25 were hollow victories, while finishing +14 on the Jags and +25 on the imploding Texans are quality wins. Guess I'm not in Charlotte anymore.....

Seriously, this game is a coin flip. I think it will come down to Panthers offense vs Rams defense. If the Panthers can get into rhythm, protect Cam, and run the ball effectively early in the game, we are going to win.

If the Panthers aren't aggressive, drop balls, 3 and outs, give up multiple sacks, we deserve to lose.

This is an important game for both teams. Neither team is out of the playoff race yet but a loss here could be a deathblow, especially in your division.

Interesting. So if the Panthers execute a simple game plan, they'll win. But if the Rams are the benefactors of crappy execution by the Panthers, then we win? In other words, there's no way for the Rams to win unless the Panthers play poorly? Seems legit. I guess using that logic, the only way the Panthers can win is if the Rams aren't aggressive, drop balls, 3 and outs, and give up multiple sacks.