I believe it is. His mobility is not about speed its about feeling the rush and manipulating the pocket with small steps to avoid the rush and feeling comfortable under pressure.
What scares me about Goff; Sam Bradford
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PowayRamFan
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Exactly. And to me, thats an attribute you either have or dont. Cant be taught and really seperates qbs
PowayRamFan
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It won't affect his game, he won't be running the read option after all. Goff was, by his own admission, 185 lbs as a freshman so he has put on 30lbs since.
Except the shoulder separation, on his throwing arm I believe at the end of his freshman year.
They are both still prospects and with this staff's cautious approach I don't expect much out of whomever the pick is until at least 2017.
Thing about Goff's shoulder is that it happened his Freshman season , and he got pounded for two years after that and it seemed to have held up just fine , I don't think Goff's shoulder is an issue
I'm still not real sure who I'm for , but I'll be glad when it's over so I can convince myself that who ever the Rams pick , is the guy I actually wanted all along
I'm still not real sure who I'm for , but I'll be glad when it's over so I can convince myself that who ever the Rams pick , is the guy I actually wanted all along
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Not really a direct comparison.
Bradfords problem was his head to me. He got into trouble by being conservative and holding the ball.
Goff naturally gets rid of the ball a LOT qquicker and shuffles in the pocket with good awareness.
Hand size is said to be pretty mute after you reach the 9" plateau.
Bradfords problem was his head to me. He got into trouble by being conservative and holding the ball.
Goff naturally gets rid of the ball a LOT qquicker and shuffles in the pocket with good awareness.
Hand size is said to be pretty mute after you reach the 9" plateau.
Oh, come on! We gotta have something to bitch about regarding Jerad. It's un-American and, more importantly, un-ROD not to do so!!! :argue::rant::boxing:
I will be psyched with either one and when I have "doubts", its only in comparison to the "other guy". I think both deserve to go #1 overall and both have the ability to be consistent all pro
That said, I prefer Goff.
Wentz has a few more "doubts" IMO. Namely, not sure what separates him from Brock Jensen who won 3 NC while Wentz was on the bench, and had significantly higher TD production. Meanwhile, Jensen cant get a cup of coffee in the CFL and Wentz is potentially the #1 overall? I applaud Wentz for coming back and playing great in the 1st half of this year's NC game, but 1) he was injured and missed 8 games and 2) they were rolling thru the playoffs without him and likely would have rolled thru the NC game as well
As for Goff, his frame doesn't bother me as he can put on weight, but what DOES bother me is the amount of fumbles he's had
That said, I prefer Goff.
Wentz has a few more "doubts" IMO. Namely, not sure what separates him from Brock Jensen who won 3 NC while Wentz was on the bench, and had significantly higher TD production. Meanwhile, Jensen cant get a cup of coffee in the CFL and Wentz is potentially the #1 overall? I applaud Wentz for coming back and playing great in the 1st half of this year's NC game, but 1) he was injured and missed 8 games and 2) they were rolling thru the playoffs without him and likely would have rolled thru the NC game as well
As for Goff, his frame doesn't bother me as he can put on weight, but what DOES bother me is the amount of fumbles he's had
See Carr, I bet any of us would be happy to have him a QB. I did not think Carr's playing at Fresno State would help him in the NFL, so far I am as wrong as can be.
Goff size doesn't bother me or defensive ends and linebackers would never get hurt
This x 1000.
...but seriously how can the op say Goff is not mobile ? Bradford was like a statue. Goff's ability to buy time and escape pressure with his feet is seriously a thing of beauty.
ramsince62
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He also has pigmy hands, I'm a bit surprised that doesn't get more attention. I'm 5'9" with 9 3/4" hands, Goff is sporting 9" stumps....I think it's going to be a problem, especially from a pressuring "D". Goff can indeed move in the pocket, but what he can't seem to do, is escape the pressure and gain a few yards when necessary. I don't know about you, but I've grown tired of standing lamp posts.
ramsince62
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>>.but seriously how can the op say Goff is not mobile ?<<
How? Check his stats. Now if you're referring to him dancing on the head of a pin (pocket) that's one thing....but these days, just how long does that last? Once he's forced out, then what?
Besides accuracy and roughly similar body type, Sam Bradford is no Jared Goff. Goff is a winner that makes others better in games. Sam has to have everything perfect for him to succeed, and it rarely is except in Preseason when he wears a red jersey...
I think you are trying too hard to find a flaw to worry about.
Manning, Brady, Brees... many more...
Are these the kind of standing lamp posts you speak of?
Those are pocket passers. That's what Goff is, and I've never seen a a QB who has more bodies in his face who can continue to step back, sidestep and step up and deliver an accurate pass to his second read, pressure all around.
In that way, he does use his feet to pick up more yards....
Sam Bradford was injured in college and then hurt almost every year in the pros so far, the guys is just fragile. There is players that get hurt and then there's guys like Bradford that just cant avoid injury. He is fragile or just very unlucky, I feel bad for the guy because he has talent , its a chance you take with player in the NFL. I say go with the bigger stronger guy from a small school, Goff just reminds me too much of Bradford and Blaine Gabbert( who also came out as a touted pro style passer).