What is wrong with the offense?

[SteezyEndo]

We better not waste this oppurtunity. We made it this far and I’d be damned if we go out like suckers when we have the capabilities to do better…

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

We better not waste this oppurtunity. We made it this far and I’d be damned if we go out like suckers when we have the capabilities to do better…

Who are you referring to?

 

[SteezyEndo]

Who are you referring to?

The Rams Football organization. Yeah perhaps the way that was written was taken differently. Basically what I meant to say is that the Rams better not fuck up this golden oppurtunity and take it all the way because they can…

 

[fanotodd]

Play action works better from under center.

Stafford just has to stop locking in on his buddy Kupp and Puka and spread the ball around more.

They told the announcers that Robinson separated better than all the WRs. With all the attention given to Kupp and Puka, Robinson should be balling out now.

Dead on.
I just rewatched the vikings game.
Robinson—2 TDs
Atwell—big reception and a should-a-been TD but Stafford under threw him.

It was also Robinson who had the huge one handed grab to beat the seahawks in OT.

It was Atwell with the big 4th down grab a few games ago (bills?).

THOSE two guys should get a couple targets over the top every game…just because. Robinson, at least, appears to be the best at getting separation in man coverage.

The Rams actually have a good group of WRs. They just need to use all of them.

 

[fanotodd]

I think we have the largest gap between ceiling and floor on offense than any team in the NFL..You truly don’t know what offense will show up. It’s never been this unpredictable since McVay has been here. We are lacking home run hitters. Puka can be but besides him it’s really all just too methodical. Kyren has the lowest YPC of any top back in the league. Play variety and diverse play calling hinges on the health of the OLine. Thats when this offense can be lethal. Can we do that for 4 straight in the Big Dance??

McVay just has to use everybody. Atwell has speed and has made significant plays this year. Robinson has made some big catches too, especially in the end zone. Those two held the fort for about half of the season and showed they could be relied upon.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Basically what I meant to say is that the Rams better not fuck up this golden oppurtunity and take it all the way because they can.

Man! ... I just don't see things this way at all.

I am thrilled with where the Rams are right now.
Winning 9-out-of-11 to move from last to a Division-title is a TREMENDOUS accomplishment, in my opinion. Think McVay and the coaches have done a GREAT job thus far with one of the youngest rosters in the NFL.
And, I am also ALWAYS HOPEFUL for playoff success.

All that being said, the Rams have NOT been one of the top teams in the NFC this season. There are five teams in the Conference with a better record. The Rams' point differential is Negative.

They have not had a single game where they were exceptional on both sides of the ball, for four quarters.
Not a single 34-17, 31-14 or 27-10 win. Not even close. Instead, they have been squeezing-out close wins, several over weak or below-average teams that then get destroyed by good teams, or beaten by bad teams.

Every single Rams' win has been a close game ... Most decided in the final minutes.
All but two of their wins have been one-score games; and one of those two wins was the Vikings' game which was a ten-point-victory margin only because the refs missed an obvious end-zone face-mask penalty.

But your posts suggest the Rams SHOULD win in the Playoffs; and I just can't agree.

I have really enjoyed the past ten weeks. I'm grateful, happy, excited ... and ... HOPEFUL for the Post-season.

Just Not going to ignore the facts to set myself up for disappointmernt, or ...
create a false narrative to complain about McVay and the Team when we fans should be celebrating them.

 

[Tumak61]

Rams are flawed on offense right now. When the starters are in on the OLine and Stafford is on then they can move the ball with the best of them. Problem is they have an explosive problem, or lack thereof. Nacua is drawing the attention now not Kupp. When that happens Kupp can't take advantage of that. McVay needs more a combo of Nacua, Atwell, and Robinson. McVay is sticking with Kupp though so it's going to be a more plodding attack. Kupp needs less targets and those should go to Robinson and Atwell. More Higbee as well.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Dead on.
I just rewatched the vikings game.
Robinson—2 TDs
Atwell—big reception and a should-a-been TD but Stafford under threw him.

It was also Robinson who had the huge one handed grab to beat the seahawks in OT.

It was Atwell with the big 4th down grab a few games ago (bills?).

THOSE two guys should get a couple targets over the top every game…just because. Robinson, at least, appears to be the best at getting separation in man coverage.

The Rams actually have a good group of WRs. They just need to use all of them.

Whenever the Rams face a good pass rush, Stafford stops looking at all of his reads. He doesn't have time to sit back and scan the field. This means that either its likely that on most plays Nacua and Kupp are his first and second read, because that's all he has time to look for.

So, when a team plays more man and has the safety in the box to stop the run and apply extra pass rush, DBs main focus becomes Nacua and Kupp. The best cover guys take them. So what's the answer? Make Robinson or Tutu the primary reads? They don't have time for long developing routes. I think they should use more 12 personnel and put Stafford back in shotgun on more plays in this situation.

Or it can be as simple as Stafford says. He simply needs to make better passes.

 

[fanotodd]

Whenever the Rams face a good pass rush, Stafford stops looking at all of his reads. He doesn't have time to sit back and scan the field. This means that either its likely that on most plays Nacua and Kupp are his first and second read, because that's all he has time to look for.

So, when a team plays more man and has the safety in the box to stop the run and apply extra pass rush, DBs main focus becomes Nacua and Kupp. The best cover guys take them. So what's the answer? Make Robinson or Tutu the primary reads? They don't have time for long developing routes. I think they should use more 12 personnel and put Stafford back in shotgun on more plays in this situation.

Or it can be as simple as Stafford says. He simply needs to make better passes.

If that truly is the case, maybe design a couple plays where Atwell or Robinson WILL be the first or second read. A play action deep ball because a pre-snap read identifies man coverage should be a staple in the playbook.

Something has to be done to back the defense off of the quick outs and other short routes. It helps open the run game too, as we have seen in those games where the deeper routes are being completed.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

If that truly is the case, maybe design a couple plays where Atwell or Robinson WILL be the first or second read. A play action deep ball because a pre-snap read identifies man coverage should be a staple in the playbook.

Something has to be done to back the defense off of the quick outs and other short routes. It helps open the run game too, as we have seen in those games where the deeper routes are being completed.

Relying on Kupp and short routes is a poor game plan when the defense is all up on the line. He looks slower than he did to start the season.

It’s become glaringly obvious that this team needs some size and speed at WR.

 

[Memphis Ram]

That's the old saying but Williams, again, is extremely effective from the gun. Also the QB can read the field when he's not turning his back, which means he can read and hand it off if the backers drop.

Maybe I said it wrong as I wasn't considering Williams at all. I was referring to the passing game.

The LBs are able to react and drop into their zones much faster when the QB is in the gun. The QB is getting the ball and the WRs are getting into their routes very close to the same time.

Under center the WRs can at least get a couple three steps into their routes before the LBs even know what's going on.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Whenever the Rams face a good pass rush, Stafford stops looking at all of his reads. He doesn't have time to sit back and scan the field. This means that either its likely that on most plays Nacua and Kupp are his first and second read, because that's all he has time to look for.

So, when a team plays more man and has the safety in the box to stop the run and apply extra pass rush, DBs main focus becomes Nacua and Kupp. The best cover guys take them. So what's the answer? Make Robinson or Tutu the primary reads? They don't have time for long developing routes. I think they should use more 12 personnel and put Stafford back in shotgun on more plays in this situation.

Or it can be as simple as Stafford says. He simply needs to make better passes.

Do they have to limit Atwell and Robinson to long developing routes? So much is said about McVay's WRs having to be able to play all spots. Mix it up some and at times have them be the 2nd read. And I must admit I haven't paid much attention since the 49ers game, but there have been many times this season where the TEs are wide open, too.

Hopefully a healthy Jackson and Havenstein can slow the clock in Stafford's head.

 

[RamBradford85]

Defenses switching it up seeing what the offense doesn’t like

Stafford needs to be quicker on his feet.
He looks sluggish.

We need to get Kupp more involved as well.

Noteboom has been terrible.

i think it’s the opposite kupp needs to play less and Robinson and tutu need to be involved more

 

[RamBradford85]

After watching the Lions - I'd really like to see some sort of hook & ladder to Tutu, to the house!!!!!

Now u know tutu want get to play much every pass will go to puka or kupp

 

[RamBradford85]

We better not waste this oppurtunity. We made it this far and I’d be damned if we go out like suckers when we have the capabilities to do better…

Do we really this offense isn’t any good play calling stinks

 

[RamsOfCastamere]

I think the pressure of clinching the division and keeping the win streak going was getting to Stafford. Now that it’s done, he can play loose again.

Now McVay needs to figure out how to counter these recent defensive schemes. This slump reminds me of when the Bears figured out how to slow us down in 2018. The Niners played man and had their lbs sitting on our crossing routes, and the following teams have copied that strategy.

 

[badnews]

Robinson—
Atwell—
....
THOSE two guys should get a couple targets over the top every game…just because.
...
The Rams actually have a good group of WRs. They just need to use all of them.

This right here. Times a thousand.

And not even really "just because" on taking those deep shots to Atwell and Robinson. No excuse is necessary for wanting to stretch out the secondary and open up the middle of the field while having a chance at a big play or a score. The rewards outweigh the risk.

 

[dang]

“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!?!” There are no expectations of a SB win but there is a chance. Enjoy the ride one game at a time. Trust McVay. He’s been there for us before and he’ll be there again.

 

[Merlin]

Maybe I said it wrong as I wasn't considering Williams at all. I was referring to the passing game.

The LBs are able to react and drop into their zones much faster when the QB is in the gun. The QB is getting the ball and the WRs are getting into their routes very close to the same time.

Under center the WRs can at least get a couple three steps into their routes before the LBs even know what's going on.

I am fine disagreeing on this. ILBs dropping too quick can be countered by handing it off.

The advantages provided to the QB in not having to turn his back, and overall comfort for a gunslinger like Stafford means I prefer to always be in it.

Also with Williams being effective in it, his quick acceleration, etc I think we can do damn near everything from it.

Stafford's preference is key though of course so when he needs to get his timing right or if he wants to be under center that should be the choice. I'm just a big fan of the gun when players allow.

 

[ramsince62]

Man! ... I just don't see things this way at all.

I am thrilled with where the Rams are right now.
Winning 9-out-of-11 to move from last to a Division-title is a TREMENDOUS accomplishment, in my opinion. Think McVay and the coaches have done a GREAT job thus far with one of the youngest rosters in the NFL.
And, I am also ALWAYS HOPEFUL for playoff success.

All that being said, the Rams have NOT been one of the top teams in the NFC this season. There are five teams in the Conference with a better record. The Rams' point differential is Negative.

They have not had a single game where they were exceptional on both sides of the ball, for four quarters.
Not a single 34-17, 31-14 or 27-10 win. Not even close. Instead, they have been squeezing-out close wins, several over weak or below-average teams that then get destroyed by good teams, or beaten by bad teams.

Every single Rams' win has been a close game ... Most decided in the final minutes.
All but two of their wins have been one-score games; and one of those two wins was the Vikings' game which was a ten-point-victory margin only because the refs missed an obvious end-zone face-mask penalty.

But your posts suggest the Rams SHOULD win in the Playoffs; and I just can't agree.

I have really enjoyed the past ten weeks. I'm grateful, happy, excited ... and ... HOPEFUL for the Post-season.

Just Not going to ignore the facts to set myself up for disappointmernt, or ...
create a false narrative to complain about McVay and the Team when we fans should be celebrating them.

Are we talking about KC or the Rams?