What Cardinals Fans Are Saying Before And After The Game(Part 2)

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The (Part 1) thread link where we humiliated them 33-0 in London last month is below.

http://www.ramsondemand.com/threads/what-cardinals-fans-are-saying-before-and-after-the-game.51698/

It appears that their victory over the Jaguars yesterday and a decent game by Blaine Gabbert has invigorated Arians and a few(a very few) of the Cardinals fan base.

They are currently 5-6, 3-2 at home, and 2-4 on the road. I expect some of their fans this week to hope for revenge and that the Rams don't injure their quarterback since there's a history of that.

Time for the Rams to crush their fading hopes once and for all on Sunday.
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http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/arians-“don’t-bury-us-yet-”.256293/

Arians - “Don’t bury us yet.”

vs Rams
vs Titans
@ Redskins
vs Giants
@ Seahawks

I see us at 7-9 to be honest, with 8-8 not being out of reach. No way we finish above .500, but I’d like to hear the opinions of others.
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They win 1 more!
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If they finish 8-8, that would be pretty impressive to me.
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Wins against Titans & Giants at home at losses to Rams, Redskins and Seahawks so it will be 7 & 9.
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Wins against Titans, Redskins, Giants
Losses against Rams, Seahawks
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I am going on a limb and say the Cards win the next 4 games but lose to Seattle. Finish 9-7 and have a record with them receiving a 15-19 1st rd draft pick where they cannot go for a QBOTF unless they make a deal and move up.
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Next game will tell us what we need to know about how this team will fare. If somehow this team can beat the Rams at home, watch out because this means Gabbert's progress is legit. Don't kid yourself, to hell with the stats, the Rams have the best defense and not the Jaguars and they have a healthy stud back and a actual functioning QB.

Especially in today's mediocre NFL, these are the winning streaks which can unseemly take place when you beat an opponent worth their metal. It rubs off on a team where if you can stay close, you start finding the confidence to learn how to win. I am not saying we could go far in the playoffs, I see the Eagles wiping their shoes on our door mat but you never know.

If we lose to the Rams, which is likely, then maybe we can win two more but it will be fun to watch because some of these new guys on the field are going to bring it because they want to be on a roster and you will have vets feeling the heat which is causing them to perform. You watch, if John Brown gets back on the field, that smurf will risk it all against Gargamel
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Right now they are literarily one game at a time.

What I really want to see is more of our younger players making contributions like we saw in the Jacksonville game. Gives me hope for the future.
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There has been a lot of bashing Arians, including myself. Most of it is deserved also. But, you have to at least give him some credit that they haven’t quit. Football is an emotional game & it’s sometimes real easy to mail seasons in. Let’s see what happens against the Rams. They beat our butts in London. Will Arians have them ready to compete next week? I say yes.
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This team will need to demonstrate more consistency in their level
of play before we can predict how they'll do in the next game let alone the rest of the season.
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saddest thing is,... I look at that schedule and see every game there as winnable....it all depends on what Cards team shows up.

we can beat the skins on the road and we always play well in seattle... and we have a shot in every home game... Rams are the toughest game left and its a division game...even though the hags are making a push too.

this could be another year like /..was it 2013?? when we went 10-6 and missed the playoffs?
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Great win, great game, and I am rooting for more wins and more great games in the future.

This team is not making the playoffs.
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I do not think the Cardinals beat the Rams, even on their best day.

If they do, then sure, run the table, go 10-6 and see what happens ? Why not?

......just do not think that is a possibility. This team has not been very consistent.

8-8 would be pretty damn good for this team, BTW. They have had A LOT of adversity, some self-inflicted, but many were not.
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I’ve been optimistic for most the season so why not continue lol.
Rams: trap game with Philly going to LA the week after: W :D
Titans: a lot like Jacksonville with a worse d: W :D
Redskins: we can win, but it’ll be tough on the east coast: L :(
Giants: they quit and try for a high pick: W:D
Seahawks: we always win there: W :D

9-7 and playoffs!!!!:band:

Too far fetched? I can see 7-9 or 8-8 as a realist with losses to the rams and skins for sure
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The Cards are in the NFC West, not the AFC West. Chargers could still win that hot mess after an 0-4 start.
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Exactly. Just shut up and get on with it, Bruce. Not buying what you're desperately trying to sell.
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https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2...s-confidence-in-blaine-gabbert-moving-forward

Bruce Arians expresses confidence in Blaine Gabbert moving forward
The head coach is confident in the veteran quarterback.
by Seth Cox

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When the Arizona Cardinals signed Blaine Gabbert in the 2017 offseason, the first thing that came to mind was they were looking for a long term answer.

Of course, that long term answer I am talking about is the backup quarterback role. Taking over the job that Drew Stanton has held down for the last five seasons.

Through two starts, nothing has changed.

Gabbert has done a nice job of keeping the Arizona Cardinals in a position to win games. His defense faltered against the Texans. They rose to the occasion against the Jaguars.

That's what the key to being a great backup is. It is offering your team a chance to win.

Through four games the Cardinals have gotten that out of both backups and are 2-2.

Bruce Arians was asked about his level of comfort with Blaine Gabbert as the quarterback heading into 2018… His words seemed to say more than what he actually said:


View: https://twitter.com/Cardschatter/status/935228541351821312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.revengeofthebirds.com%2F2017%2F11%2F27%2F16706532%2Fbruce-arians-expresses-confidence-in-blaine-gabbert-moving-forward

Arians expressed his confidence in Gabbert if the situation presented itself.

Arians always does a nice job of saying something without actually saying anything.

In fact, this is the standard line from Arians on the backup quarterback taking over:


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That is to say, Arians likes what he sees in Gabbert, but let's not mistake the play for a quarterback who is or is going to be the future starter in Arizona.

Blaine has looked like a competent, potential high end backup quarterback.

The type of guy you pay three years for $10 million and know you have a capable backup to Carson Palmer in 2018, or a nice bridge piece in 2018 or 2019.

It has been a good start to Gabbert's Cardinals career. One that should continue in 2017 and lead to a long term contract with the team. Just not as the starting quarterback.
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If you’re expecting anything more from your backup, you’re delusional (not saying you just in general)
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I think based off 2 games that Gabbert could be one of the leagues better backups but it would be a prediction as 2 games isn’t enough. He has more than enough bad games in his past to be a concern. We were all thinking late in the game when he had 7 straight incomplete passes that the real Gabbert was back.

After 5 games we can start talking with actual facts.
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You guys make it sound like NFL QBs come out of the womb
.. with "STARTER" or "BACKUP" stamped on their foreheads. It’s a very nebulous line except for a handful of proven vets This year of all years you should realize the designations can flip on a regular basis.

What Arians is saying is what I said at the beginning of the year. The Cards have the best 3 deep QB room in the league. Any one of them is capable of starting. As it sits, the job is Gabbert’s until someone takes it away from him. That could be in two weeks or it could be in ten years. He’s only signed until the end of the season, so they have to get him under contract before anything else.
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With one qualification:
Drew Stanton couldn’t start a fire with a gallon of gasoline and a book of giant matches.
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So far Blaine has the best passer rating, completion rate, and probably the most rushing yards of the three
Fwtw. He also has the best winning % at .500 Palmer and Stanton split an extra loss between them. But I never expected them to stick him straight into the lineup. I did say at one point that I could see Blaine playing more than any of the others this year. That’s still possible if he plays out the schedule, even if they don’t make the playoffs.
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Completion Percentage this year

  1. Palmer = 61.4
  2. Gabbert = 61.1
Touchdowns to Interception Ratio

  1. Palmer = 9 / 7 = 1.28
  2. Gabbert = 5 / 3 = 1.67
Pass Attempts Per Game

  1. Palmer = 38.1
  2. Gabbert = 36
Passing Yards Per Game

  1. Palmer = 282
  2. Gabbert = 249
Sacks Per Game

  1. Palmer = 3.1
  2. Gabbert = 1.5
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    Even yards per completion is within 0.5 yards of each other.
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https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2017/11/27/16703834/arizona-cardinals-nfc-playoff-picture

Arizona Cardinals still in NFC Playoff hunt
Despite the down year, the Arizona Cardinals are still in a position to make the playoffs.
by Seth Cox

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The Arizona Cardinals were down and out last week.

A dejected team with a fan base that couldn't make sense of what happened the previous week.

That led to questions about everything, hell we'll look at that possibility tomorrow or Wednesday.

It seemed like this week would be the final nail in the coffin for the 2017 Arizona Cardinals.

That didn't matter to Bruce Arians and the Arizona Cardinals.

Now, after week 12 is over, the NFC has played all their games, the Arizona Cardinals are still, somehow miraculously in the playoff picture.

In fact, they sit at the 12 seed, but tied with the three teams in front of them at 5-6. Those teams include the Packers, Cowboys and Redskins.

While it is still a longshot the Arizona Cardinals make the playoffs this year, they're still in it, which sounds completely irrational when you look at the last several weeks.

NFC Playoff Standings:

  1. Philadelphia Eagles (10-1)
  2. Minnesota Vikings (9-2)
  3. Los Angeles Rams (8-3)
  4. New Orleans Saints (8-3)
  5. Carolina Panthers (8-3)
  6. Atlanta Falcons (7-4)
  7. Seattle Seahawks (7-4)
  8. Detroit Lions (6-5)
  9. Green Bay Packers (5-6)
  10. Dallas Cowboys (5-6)
  11. Washington Redskins (5-6)
  12. Arizona Cardinals (5-6)
Of course, tomorrow we have the fresh 2018 NFL Draft order, so let's enjoy the distant thought of the playoffs.
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Gotta go undefeated
Win them all out, giving us a 10-6 record and almost certain to make the playoffs…but if we lose (next week against the Rams, or week 17 against Seattle) a game, we are definitely done for.
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Come on
I’m as optimistic as the next guy but really? We are not going to make the playoffs. We’d have to win every game and that’s not going to happen. I doubt we win next week, the Rams are a whole lot better than the Jags.
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We will never make the playoffs. We will never beat the Rams or the Seahags. I can’t remember what other good teams we would have to beat?

We can’t even beat the Texans with Tom Savage as the QB. Who by the way was better than Bortles.
Actually I thought the Texans played better than the Jags.

To get back to making the playoffs…it just not going to happen.
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6-5 vs 5-6
If we had won the Houston Game and were sitting at 6-5, I would be more optimistic given we would have a cushion (i.e. we could lose to the Rams, etc.). Especially after the performance against the Jags (BA better understanding Gabbert, blah blah blah). However, our dumb ass coach decided to go for it at our own 38 instead of pinning the Texans (again) deep. His arrogance / stupidity has stolen my optimism.
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If we do make the playoffs and thats a big IF

DJ and Palmer won’t be back to play in the playoffs anyway. They are done for the season according to BA. They both have weeks of physical therapy.

I’d rather them not come back just to possibly get injured again if there not completely healed. We’re doing OK without them. Remember we have the Rams and Seahags left to play and that’s the 2 teams that caused most if not all of our injuries.
 

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I'm telling ya Gabbert is not bad.
Will move better than Palmer or Stanton. Has arm talent.
I would be tempted if I were Tomato Head to let Palmer go and save the $$ and go with Gabbert.
 

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What Arians will be saying at the end of the game.

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Hopefully, we'll get some more gold like this...

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And on that day, there was a great kicking of ass. So great was the kicking of ass, that there was no ass left to be kicked. From Phoenix to London, all ass had been thoroughly beat. And all the people cried out in mourning and proclaimed “my ass has been kicked!” And there was much sorrow and mourning in all the land.
 

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Hopefully, we'll get some more gold like this...

Forgot about that gem. (y)

https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2014-arizona-cardinals-1624920960

One weird thing about Arians:
Arians refuses to do a group stretch. His quote from earlier in camp was that if a doberman was chasing you with a gun, you wouldn't have time to stretch. To be fair: an armed doberman would not be that far-fetched in Arizona. But still: You wonder why this team is constantly getting drilled by injuries.

Bruce Arians looks like Piggy from Lord of the Flies.

I've learned to accept the fact that they are pretty much the Jan Brady of NFL teams.
 

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Man, it sucks when you pull a hammy when being chased by armed Dobermans...
 

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Forgot about that gem. (y)

https://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2014-arizona-cardinals-1624920960

One weird thing about Arians:
Arians refuses to do a group stretch. His quote from earlier in camp was that if a doberman was chasing you with a gun, you wouldn't have time to stretch. To be fair: an armed doberman would not be that far-fetched in Arizona. But still: You wonder why this team is constantly getting drilled by injuries.

Bruce Arians looks like Piggy from Lord of the Flies.

I've learned to accept the fact that they are pretty much the Jan Brady of NFL teams.

I was hoping to find a clip or something from when Gregg Williams, I believe, said something to the effect of, "Stick that in your stupid hat!" after a Rams win over Arizona.
 

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We will just have to shake up Gabbert like we did to Palmer. Need to go for the jugular and then some.
 

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I'm telling ya Gabbert is not bad.
Will move better than Palmer or Stanton. Has arm talent.
I would be tempted if I were Tomato Head to let Palmer go and save the $$ and go with Gabbert.

Blaine Gabbert is a steaming pile of garbage. God help Arizona fans if they think he's the answer.
 

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if the rams let gabbert beat them again i may lose my shit.

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Tis is a game WE can not lose - if we win this weekend we've got a winning record guys, I think McVay will want to win and win big, we've dropped some points on O in the last few weeks, it's time we upped the game now and started play ball. we need to get to Gabbert early, make him worried about the pass-rush and the hard hits, he'll rush his throws and will force turn overs.

It's time to show our division who's the boss.
 

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It's a wonder that the Cardinals haven't already picked a future QB, in the draft, for Arians and Palmer to be coaching up.

With so many colleges running spread offenses, it would be wise. Stanton and Gabbert aren't the answer. Maybe he is eying up Bradford as Palmer 2.0. They will have the training camp, and the facility next door will be the geriatric ward.



Now that the Holidays are upon us - Whenever Christmas music plays on the radio, I think of Arians, every time I hear those kids sing, "Now bring me some Piggy Pudding".

I hope the Rams bring him some, and shove that Piggy Pudding right down that stupid jowly face of his.
 

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Blaine Gabbert is a steaming pile of garbage. God help Arizona fans if they think he's the answer.
Better alternative than what they have.
Stanton can't play really and Palmer can't stay on the field and cost money.
A backup QB is a tricky thing. One with a proven track record will cost a little money. The others? Just a roll of the dice.
I would propose a backup matters little on a below to average team, but, is very important on a contending team. If the FO views this Rams team as one that can content for titles QB depth should be improved in my opinion.
I'm basing my opinion Gabbart is better than Stanton is based on watching just a bit of play. A little against the Jags and someone else. He brings more to the table than Stanton.
 
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