We must not be complacent with 8 days left to the trade deadline!

[Malibu]

Yes we beat ATL soundly, but they are a 1-6 team. Same most likely will be said against Cincy.

I worry about our Oline still. ATL does not have a good dline. Still we couldn't rush the ball against them. It felt like we were keeping several extra guys into block on pass plays. When we play better teams like SF, Seattle, Bears, Ravens we need to have an oline that frees Goff up to do what he does so we'll throw the ball. We achieve that in two ways, a way better rushing attack and better pass blocking.

I don't want Snead to get lulled into thinking the ship has been righted because ATL is not a true test. Better safe than sorry.

Go out and get Glenn, Williams or possibly Osemele to strengthen the oline. Or someone else that helps the oline. I doubt Corbett is the answer. The report on him he was a bust and Dorsey thought so after the first day of practice. If he was so good why off load a player who was drafted 33rd and has only a year under his belt? They wouldn't if he was any good. No way. Especially because their oine isn't very strong.

Please Les/Sean don't let this win fool you make a trade.

 

[dang]

I believe it’s coming. Sounds like Snead has the green light and he loves to trade.

 

[Zaphod]

I doubt there's any complacency in the front office.

The Corbett trade is intriguing though. I mean, who knows, but I doubt he's a starter over Blythe, and that's what we need, right? Someone who can improve our starting depth at guard, and put Blythe in a position to hopefully compete with Allen at center?

Maybe Corbett is a longer term project, or even just competition for Demby's spot. I don't know, but I doubt they're sitting on anything with so many questions for the OL this year and next.

 

[Malibu]

I doubt there's any complacency in the front office.

The Corbett trade is intriguing though. I mean, who knows, but I doubt he's a starter over Blythe, and that's what we need, right? Someone who can improve our starting depth at guard, and put Blythe in a position to hopefully compete with Allen at center?

Maybe Corbett is a longer term project, or even just competition for Demby's spot. I don't know, but I doubt they're sitting on anything with so many questions for the OL this year and next.

I want Corbett to succeed like everyone does here. I just hope that Snead doesn't think he is the answer and we are done. This team will not go anywhere without a better oline.

 

[OldSchool]

So I agree another trade is possible. But complacent? Midseason trades don't really happen in the NFL much and Snead went out and did three in one day so that's not really an adjective I think applies to him ever.

Also you think they're going to go out and trade for one of three OLinemen that we can't afford and also aren't healthy? That's what they need to do? Sorry get me a guy who's healthy and can start not one of the three listed.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Its been confusing for me to understand what the future holds for us in regards to our OL. During pre-season it appeared that Edwards and Brewer were the superior up & comers, although we understand the Rams prefer their offensive linemen be versed at multiple positions thru cross-training. Edwards, Demby, Kolone & Evans received snaps outside of their supposed area of expertise, Brewer did well sticking to his OG roles. Coleman Shelton was brought in later to fill what stood out as a glaring weakness at reserve Center, and Austin Corbett was brought in following the Noteboom injury, both of whom have OG & Center experience. Kolone would seem to be the odd man out as his combined skills as C/OG were now marginalized, it's difficult to gather whether he has much of a future here. Harder to understand yet is how Demby managed to hold on as long as he did with his first man off the bench role as a reserve.
My question about Brewer is whether he is actively being developed to replace soon to become free agent Austin Blythe following this season, or is he just another guy who doesn't look as good in practice as he did during pre-season ? While Demby & Evans looked rather pedestrian, Brewer was relegated to the practice squad.
As future free agency dollars become more scarce, should we assume the Rams are in the market for another outside offensive line free agent, or is in-house development the presumed answer ? Kromer was the expected magician when it came to OL player development, or is this placing too much pressure on his abilities ? Converting Noteboom into a LG, even if meant as temporary, proved less than successful, and the word on Allen's permanence at Center remains that he's a work in progress, that experience & strength more than potential ability is his only real flaw.
OL development & chemistry rarely comes overnight, young players require some patience, and we as Rams fans may be a little spoiled by the successes of 2018, so patience may not be our highest virtue. jmo.

 

[fearsomefour]

I don’t know what he has left to trade.

 

[dang]

I don’t know what he has left to trade.

Not wishing misfortune on anyone but Bortles, Higbee and Cooks come to mind.

 

[Corbin]

I doubt Corbett is the answer. The report on him he was a bust and Dorsey thought so after the first day of practice. If he was so good why off load a player who was drafted 33rd and has only a year under his belt? They wouldn't if he was any good. No way. Especially because their oline isn't very strong.

Please Les/Sean don't let this win fool you make a trade.

I honestly don't much about Corbett and haven't done much research into him outside of the draft he was apart of but I keep seeing people say the Browns O-Line is horrible or worthless which isn't true. The Center spot last year and this year has been pretty darn decent and Bitonio as this article points out has been to. From watching our game and several other games of the Browns Tretter hasn't been horrible one bit. Last year he did way better but the season isn't over yet.

Center
JC Tretter (PFF: 70.1)
Tretter joins Bitonio as the other bright spot at offensive line. Chubb is averaging 4.6 yards per carry running behind Tretter. Also, he ranks fifth among graded centers by PFF. Tretter is a team leader and, along with Bitonio, has only been flagged once.



As far as Corbett's concerned I wouldn't label or put an idea on him being buried behind the depth chart of Tretter. With the experience and how he played last year I'd have Tretter as my Center as well especially if he has chemistry with my QB already.


Also, as a side not the connotation that somebody trades a player and that there is no value in them so they must be horrible is just dead wrong. Is Marcus Peters trash? Is Dante Fowler trash? How about Aquib Talib, Jalen Ramsey, or Trevon Young? The answer is there could be a better fit somewhere else from what the opportunity they are currently in and the brass thinks they might as well get something for them in return instead of them going unused.

 

[tklongball]

I can't help but laugh at Dorsey going from drafting a guy #33 overall to thinking he is a bust after 1 practice. Too funny. No wonder that franchise is so terrible.

The guy is a 33rd pick, that by all accounts is a zone OL that was miss-cast in Cleveland's scheme. He might just be a steal. I won't Dorsey it and call him a bust too early.

 

[Merlin]

Any OL who might come available during the season will come with a ton of competitive offers from other teams so it's hard for me to imagine a situation where Les pulls off another deal.

IF Edwards had tanked in his debut we might be in that situation where something crazy happens, i.e. they move a good player for an OL. That would give them the kick they need to make a move but he played exceptionally well for a first start. So the need isn't there IMO.

But I also think a better topic would be: "Which Rams veteran could be moved for an OL." Because that's what we're talking about to get a deal done. Not a mediocre vet either, you're talkin someone like Woody (who I would not deal but who is a very valuable trade chip).

My bet is the Rams go with this group.

 

[tklongball]

No way would I trade Woods. I would trade Cooks and replace him with Reynolds long before I would trade Woods.

 

[Mojo Ram]

"May the Blessings of the Bomb Almighty, and the Fellowship of the Holy Fallout, descend upon us all. This day and forever more."

 

[Riverumbbq]

No way would I trade Woods. I would trade Cooks and replace him with Reynolds long before I would trade Woods.

And I would consider trading Reynolds long before moving either Cooks or Woods.

 

[Merlin]

Its been confusing for me to understand what the future holds for us in regards to our OL. During pre-season it appeared that Edwards and Brewer were the superior up & comers, although we understand the Rams prefer their offensive linemen be versed at multiple positions thru cross-training. Edwards, Demby, Kolone & Evans received snaps outside of their supposed area of expertise, Brewer did well sticking to his OG roles. Coleman Shelton was brought in later to fill what stood out as a glaring weakness at reserve Center, and Austin Corbett was brought in following the Noteboom injury, both of whom have OG & Center experience. Kolone would seem to be the odd man out as his combined skills as C/OG were now marginalized, it's difficult to gather whether he has much of a future here. Harder to understand yet is how Demby managed to hold on as long as he did with his first man off the bench role as a reserve.
My question about Brewer is whether he is actively being developed to replace soon to become free agent Austin Blythe following this season, or is he just another guy who doesn't look as good in practice as he did during pre-season ? While Demby & Evans looked rather pedestrian, Brewer was relegated to the practice squad.
As future free agency dollars become more scarce, should we assume the Rams are in the market for another outside offensive line free agent, or is in-house development the presumed answer ? Kromer was the expected magician when it came to OL player development, or is this placing too much pressure on his abilities ? Converting Noteboom into a LG, even if meant as temporary, proved less than successful, and the word on Allen's permanence at Center remains that he's a work in progress, that experience & strength more than potential ability is his only real flaw.
OL development & chemistry rarely comes overnight, young players require some patience, and we as Rams fans may be a little spoiled by the successes of 2018, so patience may not be our highest virtue. jmo.

You make a couple good points River and first off with Brewer I suspect they know he can play but plan to lock him up with a team-friendly deal. The team controls the playing time and in that way can also control his opportunity to make it favorable for him to sign an extension while they also figure out what their draft picks (which come with team investment) are capable of. Translation with Brewer is that I expect the Rams to extend him at an affordable rate.

Re: Kromer I don't think we should get too down on him. First off Boom has a future as a starter in this league, he just needs more development in the run game. And replacing a consistent Pro Bowl performer in Saff was a huge setup for failure for Boom. The guy then got screwed by the injury and who knows maybe there's an alternate universe where he doesn't get injured and really settles in for a great run for us at LG around this time of the year. The injury took that possibility away.

Same deal with Allen. Young lineman, up and down production thus far all year. I'm not going to blame Kromer because he still might be proven right. Allen might finish this season by putting everything together and wouldn't that be nice.

Using hindsight here I basically blame myself for wearing the rose colored glasses with our two young linemen. I should have been more realistic and expected a rocky start but never in my wildest dreams did I see the entire line looking like a sieve. Which again in hindsight sort of makes sense in that when Goff can't step up in the pocket the edge rushers can run wide around our OTs all day long. But hopefully all that stuff is mostly over and we can move forward with an improving line. Got my fingers crossed here.

 

[Merlin]

No way would I trade Woods. I would trade Cooks and replace him with Reynolds long before I would trade Woods.

And I would consider trading Reynolds long before moving either Cooks or Woods.

Yeah I'm with you guys. Cooks would be my first choice to move, but I'm not sure we can move him I don't have a good feel with the whole cap side maybe @flv can weigh in on that one.

And JRey would be second of course. Reason he's not the first choice is because he can probably give us similar production to what Cooks does at a much cheaper price.

But other teams in trade love low pay vs high production. And that's why they'd be all over Woody if you are the GM calling about getting a quality OL.

 

[OldSchool]

There's a lot of teams out there that need OL help badly. Assuming that we can land any talent that's available over other teams is setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

Meanwhile...

 

[dieterbrock]

And I would consider trading Reynolds long before moving either Cooks or Woods.

Well of course, that's always the way. Trade the player with the least amount of value and think that teams would over pay for them. Reynolds probably doesn't bring back more than a 5th rounder (and I think that's generous) and Cooks is fairly un-tradable due to his contract. Woods, with his team/cap friendly contract and high production would likely garner the highest return in a trade.
That said, I wouldn't trade Woods under just about any circumstance

 

[Stump23]

Yeah I'm with you guys. Cooks would be my first choice to move, but I'm not sure we can move him I don't have a good feel with the whole cap side maybe @flv can weigh in on that one.

And JRey would be second of course. Reason he's not the first choice is because he can probably give us similar production to what Cooks does at a much cheaper price.

But other teams in trade love low pay vs high production. And that's why they'd be all over Woody if you are the GM calling about getting a quality OL.

Yeah, but at least Cooks catches the ball. Reynolds looks very rusty, as he should due to non play, but he has to be ready to catch the ball immediately if he stands a chance here or anywhere else. Last year is a long time ago and all of his successes from then are kinda forgotten right now. I think due to his salary cap number, he'd be somewhat attractive to teams.