Way too early final 53 depth chart (Sept)

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He injured his MCL. No mention of tear. No mention of surgery. McVay says he's on track to be ready for the season.

My mistake, thanks for the link I thought it was a full tear due to it being season ending. Only a couple things can happen to a ligament, either full tear or stretching (which can typically include a partial tear). If he missed the rest of the season it must have been pretty serious. Still wouldn't count on him to start early but that does make me feel a bit better about our depth inside early in the year. Blythe outplayed him at C and IMO isnt a very good player himself. So we'll see how the C and G positions shake out. Not having a normal off-season will affect things too.
 

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I think Brain Allen isn't done. He has a nasty streak I like. He moves to the second level well.
His run blocking was quite good and I agree he moves well in the run game. But he won't sniff the field without enormous strides made in pass pro and line calls.

The nice thing with this OL is this year there will be competition. Which was not the case last year IMO and maybe that was a bigger element than people realize.

The holdovers... Whit had no competition at LT, Hav had no competition at RT, and Blythe had no competition at RG. They skipped preseason and all three looked like dogshit through the first half of the schedule at least.

Then the Rams not providing competition for either Boom or Allen, both of whom were terribly flawed (Boom in the run game, Allen in the pass game), was like a fucking cherry on top of that particularly terrible cake.

And these fuckers need snaps in preseason too. Assuming there will be one. If not, well, prepare yourself for maybe needing time for them to settle in. Again.
 

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Why, Wolford played very well in preseason and did well in his short stint with the Alliance League. If there is a preseason, let's see what the Rams have in him. Just because he's short no need to discount him. Very good QB at Wake Forest, did well in the Alliance League and looked good enough in preseason to dislodge Brandon Allen and spent a year on the practice squad.

Snead has said they like him, so I'm not sure the Rams make a move here, maybe they do, but in that case, they could just bring back Bortles.
The Alliance league? He had 1 good game, then barely had more td passes than INT. In the Alliance league. Was barely even football. And in pre-season? Jeesh, pre-season? Looked like a deer in headlights until the last pre-season game when he was playing against complete and total scrubs. Austin Davis at best. Wasnt drafted because he had 3 marginal college seasons with a comp % in the mid 50's & more INT than TD, then a decent senior year. Havent seen anything that resembles anything more than the Brock Berlin/Thaddeus Lewis pre-season garbage time heroism. At best maybe he beats out Love and/or Perkins for the PS
 

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The defensive line group looks very interesting right now...

High chance to make roster:

3T Donald
NT Robinson, Gaines
5T Brockers, SJD

Bubble (likely we keep 6):

Fox, Smart, Copeland, Williams, Banks, Hoecht, Renner.

Notes:

* Smart was very bad last season IMO. He is not good in the run game, and doesn't really offer pass rush either (you could feel when he was subbed in to the games) and I think is very much at risk of being cut. This means 3T backup spot is not only wide open but it's probably a priority to find a raw option if possible from among the UDFAs.

* If Donald can't go then Brock moves over to 3T, Robinson moves to 5T, and SJD slides in at NT, which would give us the best line in that situation. Robinson can also be swapped with Brock. Flexibility baby.

* While we have 3 NTs and Robinson will start on the nose due to his contract (both he and Brock), at least at first, his most valuable asset is flexibility. That said I think SJD is a better nose tackle than Robinson. Mark my words he will end up starting there.

* The 5T spot in a Fangio defense prioritizes run stopping ability. While this is also true in any 4-3 under alignment up front, Fangio puts extra emphasis on stuffing that run game. Brock can do that, however he is probably going to be subbed for a lot at that position. This means that flexibility will be utilized with Brock, Robinson, and maybe even SJD or Gaines seeing time there.

* Why is Gaines on my "high chance to make roster" list? Because he can stand up to doubles. It's important for this scheme and in a pinch even he can slide outside when they want to load up a run stopping line.

* Who is the favorite UDFA to win that 3T depth role? I'll go with Jonah Williams. He looks a bit like Fox in his game and build (but will be much cheaper), good length, stout vs the run with a very high motor snap to snap. Defensive MVP for Big Sky conference. I think he's a nice fit for the depth chart.


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@Memphis Ram nice cutting Brian Allen...Still like Slowman or MacGinnis over Hajrullahu as the Canadian's leg is stronger, but I'm betting the hash marks & goal posts being in the back of the end zone will be too much of an adjustment.

Earnest Edwards great story, but is more of a kickoff specialist then punt returner...Only returned 9 punts in his collegiate career for 55 yards with a long of 28. Greg Dortch returned 45 punts for 438 yards and 2 touchdowns.

I'd be fine with Edwards and Webster returning punts as they offer a current & future upside on offense, too. But, I'm just not a fan of the PR only (Dortch) roster spot luxury.

Allen probably makes to the team if he beats out Blythe at center or if he proves he can play more than one position. But, no backups should be limited to only one position.
 

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At the combine, McVay said that both Allen and Noteboom were looking good, but that neither will be ready to play until training camp. If I'm not mistaken, if they participate at any portion of training camp, won't that make them ineligible for the PUP list?
 

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Gonna "bury" this story in here as it pertains a bit to the personnel groupings and will affect how Staley stacks his positional groups. This is a really nice summary and was from last year in prep for his first season with the Broncos.


Film review: How will Vic Fangio’s defensive scheme look with Broncos’ personnel?

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The NFL has eight new head coaches entering the 2019 season, six of whom are offense-minded. Along with the Dolphins’ hiring of Brian Flores, the Broncos were the only other team to hire a defense-minded coach in Vic Fangio. Unlike Flores, who skipped the coordinator role before becoming head coach this year (though he did call the defense for the Patriots last season for the first time), Fangio has 20 years of experience as a defensive coordinator under his belt, most recently coordinating the NFL’s top-ranked defense last season in Chicago, based on Football Outsiders’ DVOA metric.

In a recent piece by ESPN’s John Keim, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan and Matt LaFleur were asked which coach has the toughest defense to read and attack. Not coincidentally, all said Fangio.

Fangio’s track record of success as a defense mastermind runs deep, with his defenses ranking in the top five in fewest yards allowed in eight of his past 12 years as a coordinator. Seven of those ranked in the top five in fewest points allowed.

His dominance is rooted in his ability to get the most out of his players by putting them in the best position to succeed while tailoring his scheme to the strengths of his personnel.

Cornerback Chris Harris recently offered some insight into the impact Fangio has had on not just Denver’s defense as a whole but also his individual game:


View: https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1162122131708231680


For an all-pro like Harris not only to be receptive to a coach telling him exactly what to look for and how to play certain routes but also to disclose he has never had a coach tell him he’s going to be able to intercept passes against certain looks speaks to Fangio’s genius and communication prowess.

But what makes Fangio’s defense so successful? And how will it look in Denver?

Structure and alignment

Fangio runs a base 3-4 defense that has a diverse blend of fronts depending on his personnel and game plan for the week. Offense in today’s NFL primarily consists of 11 personnel (one running back, one tight end and three receivers), so true “base” for a 3-4 team like Fangio’s is really a reduced front that has a defensive lineman and/or linebacker subbed out for another defensive back or two. So instead of a 3-4, you’ll most commonly see a 2-4, 2-3 or 3-3 front.

This unpredictable nature of which personnel groupings, fronts and looks a Fangio defense presents to an offense makes him a nightmare to prepare for.

The standard 3-4 is generally deployed when offenses come out in 12 (one running back and two tight ends) or 21 (two backs and one tight end) personnel. We will go through multiple fronts over Fangio’s time as a coordinator to showcase some of his structural versatility and what each front looks like.

Week 1 of the 2014 season, 49ers versus the Cowboys: Dallas comes out in 12 personnel with a receiver motioning in-line to add an extra blocker. San Francisco is aligned in a 3-4 “Okie” front that has each defensive lineman aligned head-up across the offensive line with a 2-gap responsibility.

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This is a more traditional look for a 3-4 team and one that is more commonly used against offenses geared more toward running the ball out of heavier personnel with an extra tight end. In 2018, 12 personnel was the second-most-used grouping after 11, and it’s something we will likely see more of in 2019.


View: https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1157683916498751488


Next, we go to Week 6 of the 2016 season with the Bears against the Jaguars. This is Fangio’s second season with the team, and they’re facing 11 personnel from the offense.

The defense is in a 3-4 “under” look, with each defensive lineman shaded on their man as opposed to aligned head-up over them. Akiem Hicks is in a 3-technique alignment over the backside (right) guard, with Mitch Urein on the front side in a 5-technique over the left tackle, and nose tackle Will Sutton shaded over the center.

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This gives the impression that the defensive line would be penetrating upfield at the snap since it is aligned in a gap rather than over a man. But you can see after the snap that each player is immediately stacking their man at the snap and identifying where the ball carrier is going before shedding in that direction (2-gapping).



While offenses used 11 personnel around 60 percent of the time in 2018, Fangio said his Bears defense saw it closer to 80 percent.

One of the Bears’ primary adjustments was to take a defensive lineman off the field and replace him with a corner, effectively playing out of a 2-4-5 front, as seen below. This is essentially what the base defense in Chicago looked like in 2018:

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With the Patriots in 11 personnel, the Bears still maintain four linebackers on the field while keeping on Hicks as a tight 3-technique over the right guard and sliding nose tackle Eddie Goldman over to a 2-technique over the left guard. It’s worth noting these alignments oftentimes can oscillate from over either shoulder of the guard or center to head-up depending on the game plan and offensive tendencies, so the look is always fresh and customized based on the opponent.

The defensive line

Having two powerful, jolting defensive linemen inside the tackles is an important feature and where it all begins for the Bears defense. Few teams 2-gap as often as Fangio does, but it is balanced with gap exchanges and movement to keep offenses on their toes. These roles will be filled with Derek Wolfe, Shelby Harris and Adam Gotsis in a rotation on early downs and rookie Dre’Mont Jones coming in on later downs to provide a pass-rush boost.

“It’s just, alignment-wise, it’s like it’s old-school defense, where you line up and you beat the guy in front of you,” Wolfe said. “We’re going to be moving. You beat him, beat him, beat him, and then next thing you know, we’re slanting somewhere and moving around and misdirecting.”

“Moving” means there will be gap exchanges and stunts incorporated into the defense that are geared toward confusing offensive linemen, creating hesitancy that ruins blocking schemes.



This is the same base 2-4-5 front in the screenshot versus the Patriots, only instead of playing a 2-gap technique with the interior defensive line, Hicks slants across the center’s face at the snap toward the backside “A” gap, with linebacker Danny Trevathan scraping over the top to replace him. The center winds up blocking nobody, with Trevathan in position for an easy tackle.

The personnel will be a step down from what Fangio had in Chicago, but that isn’t a rebuke toward Denver. It’s just that Hicks and Goldman were each elite at what they were asked to do.

Wolfe is a good overall player when healthy, with excellent play strength and power; Harris is an extremely underrated, active player who can play multiple alignments; and Gotsis has the physical traits to be an above-average starter but will need to become more consistent with his technique to raise his floor.

Jones is coming to the team from Ohio State, where he learned under defensive line coach Larry Johnson, who is among the best teachers of technique in the nation. It shows in the refinement Jones displayed on film as a pass-rusher. By not having to man a full-time starting role and be a part of the rotation, he won’t be asked to do too much against the run while still providing an impact in getting after the quarterback.

By being creative and unpredictable with the ability to teach a wide array of technical nuances at a high level, Fangio and his staff will be able to extract the most out of this group and produce an overachieving unit.

The linebackers

The linebacker position is Fangio’s specialty, and he has helped mold some of the greatest ever to play the game, dating back to the famed “Dome Patrol” with the Saints in the early ’90s with Sam Mills, and Kevin Greene with the Panthers, Ray Lewis with the Ravens, Khalil Mack last year, and now Bradley Chubb and Von Miller in Denver.

Linebacker in the 3-4 framework is broken down into two groups: off-ball inside linebackers and edge players who primarily play in a two-point stance. Denver is weaker in the former area and will need coaching to really extract the most out of projected starters Josey Jewell and Todd Davis, with scheme and technical advancements needed to bridge the gap in talent.

Conversely, the edge group is in the running for best duo in the NFL, and it starts with Miller and Chubb.

“We’re going to try to take them both to bigger and better levels,” Fangio said.

The main allure of Fangio in Denver is seeing what he can do with these two players in place at what are likely the most important positions in the scheme.

“The edge players are very important in this 3-4 defense Vic and I have been running for the last eight years,” defensive coordinator Ed Donatell said. “You need guys that can compress the edge, and then you need somebody who can rush the passer.”

Similar to Mack last year in Chicago, Miller is right there as being one of the two or three best edge defenders in football, so it is extremely difficult to provide either one with many advantages they don’t already have. Nonetheless, Fangio managed to get Mack to play at the peak of his powers last season in his first year under his tutelage, en route to 12 1/2 sacks and a career-high six forced fumbles despite Mack’s arrival a week before their season opener and missing two games with injury.

Miller is coming off a stellar year himself that saw him lead the league in quarterback pressures, per Pro Football Focus, and notch 14 1/2 sacks.

Chubb, on the other hand, isn’t as explosive or bendy as Miller (not a knock) but brings an element of size (25 pounds heavier) and strength that provides a nice balance on the opposite side of the line. “Compressing the edge” as a run defender is an area in which Chubb made an immediate impact as a rookie.



While it might be a little premature to put Chubb in the same category as Miller and Mack this early as a rusher — even with 12 sacks as a rookie — he is well on his way to becoming one of the most well-rounded edge defenders in the NFL.

For Chubb to take the next step into superstardom, he will need to continue to develop a consistent outside pass-rush move that will keep pass-blockers guessing since the majority of his production as a rusher came with bull rushes, inside moves or effort sacks.


View: https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1064878161626898433


Wolfe has mentioned the “fun pass-rush games that are just different” that Fangio employs, and Chubb noted the creativity in Fangio’s defense last year in Chicago.

“Sometimes they would have Khalil and Leonard (Floyd) on the same side,” Chubb said. “Sometimes they had Khalil at a 3-technique, with Leonard on the other side.”

Here’s Week 5 of 2018, Tampa Bay at Chicago, third-and-10 with Floyd and Mack aligned on the same (offensive right) side of the line of scrimmage:

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Dialing up exotic fronts and blitzes on third downs with man coverage behind it were staples of the Bears defense last season. Putting your two best speed-rushers on one side and overloading one side of the line creates confusion and chaos, making it very difficult for blockers to decipher the deception.



Additionally, Fangio designed overload blitzes to isolate Mack on the opponent’s tackle, with the rest of the offensive line preoccupied with the numbers advantage the defense had on the other side. Miller and Chubb could be the beneficiaries of a design like this.



Miller and Chubb give Fangio and his staff an elite duo on the outside that they will be able to move anywhere on the line to manufacture additional pressure and provide them with advantageous matchups. And with undrafted rookie Malik Reed, who turned heads in camp, and the versatility of drafted rookie Justin Hollins, the Broncos have depth that will help keep Miller and Chubb fresh throughout the year.

The secondary

Fangio and Donatell are entering their ninth consecutive season together. This is the third stint in Denver for Donatell, whose expertise is rooted in coaching defensive backs.

Their collective experience on the defensive side of the ball shows up in how well they are able to disguise their intentions pre-snap as well as mix man and zone coverages on the same play. This is made possible by having intelligent players to carry out a complex scheme, but it has to start from the top with coaches who are smart enough to implement and communicate it efficiently.

Part of the change the new staff will bring to the Broncos secondary and defense will be how it splits up zone and man coverages, with more of the former on early downs and the latter on third downs.

“The way this defense is set up, it’s going to be confusing,” Chris Harris said. “We’re going to be able to disguise, be able to make quarterbacks think instead of just coming out there like, ‘Y’all know we’re in man.’ Now I don’t have to play a guy man-to-man and cover him all over the field like I’ve had to in the past. Now I can read. I think my picks will go way up now because I’m going to have the chance to read the quarterback more. I’ll get to show you a different skill set that I have.”

In the Broncos’ preseason game against the Seahawks, you could see a little of what he was referring to, specifically the increased use of combo coverages that will be implemented on the defense this season.

A combo coverage is essentially splitting the field in half and using different coverages on each side, so zone on one with man on the other or some mix of the two.

On this third down in the first quarter with many of the starters in the game, the Broncos defense showed press man on the boundary side of the field with off-man or possibly Cover 4 on the field side (hard to tell without the all-22 angle):



Even though Harris was in press here, “the chance to read the quarterback more” was presented to field corner De’Vante Bausby, who read the quarterback and made a play on the ball for a pass breakup. These opportunities will be spread out across the cornerbacks, giving them the chance to rely on their eyes and natural instincts rather than simply mirroring receivers and playing off their movements.

This next play is from the Bears’ 2018 season. They’re facing the Patriots in Week 7 with Tom Brady, and the offense is facing a third-and-7 midway through the second quarter.

The defense is in nickel personnel and runs Cover 6, a combo coverage that has the strong side playing Cover 2, with the weak side in Cover 4.

Image via FirstDownPlaybook.com


Brady started his drop by reading the strong safety (Adrian Amos) and peeked over to Julian Edelman, recognizing he wasn’t open. So he shifted his eyes to the left side of the field and wanted to work back to Edelman on an in-breaking route over the middle, but Edelman fell into the “hook” zone of the “Mike” linebacker (No. 58, Roquan Smith), with the slot corner (No. 27, Sherrick McManis) maintaining outside leverage over the top.



Amos had his eyes on the No. 2 receiver to his side (running back Kenjon Barner), but once he stayed in to block, it left him free to either cover the deep half of the field and double receiver Josh Gordon or cheat inside to bracket Edelman. Amos chose the latter in what was likely a specific adjustment based on the defense’s game plan heading into the week. This confused Brady and resulted in him scrambling to force a fourth down.

Having smart, instinctive defensive backs who can hide their intentions pre-snap and then transition to man coverage on later downs when pressure is being dialed up in front of them is important, and Denver has it in spades. Harris (5-foot-10), Callahan (5-9) and recently traded for Duke Dawson (5-11) are smaller players who can play outside or in the slot, giving the defense plenty of malleability to appease Fangio’s play calling. Behind them are promising young corners with more size in Isaac Yiadom (6-1) and Bausby (6-2), who offer up a good mix of physicality, length and ball skills.

The Bears put together a brilliant defensive game plan against the high-powered Rams offense last season in Week 14, mixing up third-down coverages between man and zone while clogging running lanes, oftentimes with a 6×1 defensive front the Patriots used as a template for their dominant defensive performance in Super Bowl LIII.

Incorporating Cover 1 or “man free” allows the defense to play man coverage across the board, with a single-high free safety playing the deep middle of the field.



The Rams were held to 214 total yards and 3.5 yards per play against the Bears. On this third-and-4 late in the fourth quarter, the Bears run Cover 1 out of their nickel personnel.

Fangio often switched the role of his safeties so each would get to play as the deep middle or man defender out of single-high coverages. Eddie Jackson is in the latter role here and drives on the ball for a pass breakup to force a fourth down.

For the Broncos, Justin Simmons and Kareem Jackson will take the place of Eddie Jackson and Amos, respectively, for Fangio, with Simmons primarily playing the free-safety role with opportunities to switch over and play shallow zones and man depending on the opponent and game plan.

Simmons is an extremely athletic center-fielder-type of safety with tremendous play speed that allows him to click, close and cover ground in a flash. He is really the most intriguing player of this group because he has the most to gain by playing in this scheme, which will allow him to roam all over the field.

Eddie Jackson, in a similar role, elevated himself into the top tier of free safeties in the league under Fangio and Donatell largely due to the freedom he was given, which allowed him to make plays on the ball with his ability to key, diagnose and close in on the football.


View: https://twitter.com/TheScoutAcademy/status/1144604261654945792


“I think the biggest thing is you never know what is coming,” Simmons said. “It’s always a mix-and-match. We’re always moving around.”

Kareem Jackson will serve as another chess piece for Fangio this season while bringing valuable experience (nine years, 124 career starts) as a hybrid corner/safety and a physical, aggressive playing style that has entrenched him as the starting strong safety opposite of Simmons. Kareem Jackson’s sure-tackling, blitzing capabilities and tone-setting demeanor were evident whenever you watched the Texans defense in 2018.


One aspect of Kareem Jackson’s game that will need to be improved upon is his tendency to get grabby with receivers down the field. He was called for four defensive holding penalties last season, a number bested by just three defensive backs across the NFL.

What to expect in 2019

Fangio has mentioned how the defensive side of the ball is in far better condition than the unit he took over upon arriving with the Bears in 2015, signaling he expects this to be a high-performing group from day one.

Given the track record of success that has followed Fangio everywhere he has been throughout his career as a defensive coordinator, in terms of overall defensive production and player development, paired with a talented Denver defense, there are plenty of reasons to be excited.

General manager John Elway hired Wade Phillips as defensive coordinator in 2015, leading to a dominant defense and Super Bowl victory. Attempting to rekindle the sort of defensive magic that led to a championship as recently as four years ago isn’t an unreasonable proposition, especially given the formidable personnel already in place.

Whether the offense can play efficiently enough to win the time-of-possession battle when needed, keep the defense fresh and finish somewhere in the middle of the pack or better remains to be seen. But the Broncos have another defense mastermind leading the way, only this time as the man in charge of the ship.
 

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that resembles anything more than the Brock Berlin/Thaddeus Lewis pre-season garbage time heroism. At best maybe he beats out Love and/or Perkins for the PS

Still liked Thaddeus Lewis could not stand Brock Berlin (although great name) IDK, I trust McVay on this and again, why Rosen? I feel Bortles is better and he knows the offense.
 

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If Donald can't go then Brock moves over to 3T, Robinson moves to 5T, and SJD slides in at NT, which would give us the best line in that situation. Robinson can also be swapped with Brock. Flexibility baby.

* While we have 3 NTs and Robinson will start on the nose due to his contract (both he and Brock), at least at first, his most valuable asset is flexibility. That said I think SJD is a better nose tackle than Robinson. Mark my words he will end up starting there.
I think SJD played well as a first time starter. He showed growth throughout the season, ended up playing all along the D line. A little inconsistent but showed some good things to be excited about. In the article that you posted it brought up use of the 2-gap system in some situations\packages, I think SJD will be a plus in that area. He's got good strength and long arms to move lineman aside. It looked like he was playing 2-gap at some points last season.

I've been going through the season and recording some clips. It's too bad that this play resulted in a huge gain because the spin move that he puts on is sweet, wallops Jimmy G.
 

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Apologies, don't mean to correct you again on this, but the roster shift to 55 players starts this year.

Here is an article from the Rams own site referencing it part way down:


"Whoever comes up empty in those battles will join Allen in providing valuable depth, which is all the more meaningful under the new CBA rules allowing for 55-man rosters and 48 dressed on game day, with a requirement for one additional active offensive lineman compared to prior years."
 

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Sooooo we can cut Allen soon then! Just not a fan
 

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Still liked Thaddeus Lewis could not stand Brock Berlin (although great name) IDK, I trust McVay on this and again, why Rosen? I feel Bortles is better and he knows the offense.
Bortles does know the offense. But I have never liked his inaccuracy and that's something the WCO covets. I'd prefer to see a backup who can place the ball for YAC. I know it's splitting hairs a bit given that it's the backup position, but that's why I sure would love to see them go with a young arm who has some upside and is a better fit.
 

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Anyway, here's my 55-man depth chart - including the 12 man practice squad:

Bold = starters. Italics = rookies.

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Quarterback - Jared Goff, Josh Love.

(I'm starting with a first shocker. I think that Love wins the coveted backup role. He has a good arm, good accuracy, and his throwing motion doesn't bother me as much as Perkins' does. I think he wins a tightly-contested battle over Wolford and Perkins. I like Wolford, but he doesn't have the upside of either Love or Perkins.)

Running back - Cam Akers, Darrell Henderson, Xavier Jones, James Gilbert Jr.

(Another shocker, but we'll get to it. Akers and Henderson are no surprise; I think that both of them will take a solid amount of snaps. But I think that we end up trading or releasing Malcolm Brown. I wouldn't be shocked if we did; he simply hasn't played a full sixteen-game schedule in his career. Kelly seems like just another guy, which is a shame, because I touted him early in his career. Jones has been hyped a lot here because of his SMU days, and I do like him, but don't sleep on Gilbert; he was a key cog in a solid Kansas State running game after having a hell of a career at Ball State..)

Wide receiver - Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds, Van Jefferson, Nsimba Webster, Easop Winston Jr., Earnest Edwards IV.

(None of the first four are surprises; Kupp, Woods, and Jefferson are locks, and I'd be shocked if we got rid of Reynolds. Webster is a solid punt returner and could possibly figure into future wide receiver plans, so he stays. The interesting two are Winston and Edwards. Winston served as the security blanket to Gardner Minshew at Washington State, and I like his potential as a route runner. Edwards, on the other hand, can flat-out fly. He served as a deep threat, a jet sweep option, and a kick returner at Maine, and he'll be placed on kickoffs to start his career...with the potential of maybe becoming more.)

Tight end - Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett, Brycen Hopkins, Kendall Blanton.

(Another surprise in the fourth tight end battle, but we'll get to that. Higbee should be a solid option going forward, and Everett is a lock to be in 12 packages in the final year of his rookie contract. Hopkins was drafted to take Everett's place. But Blanton, I think, will beat out Mundt, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a Mizzou fan. Blanton proved that he's a hell of a blocker, and unlike Mundt, he still has some years left on his current deal.)

Offensive line:

Tackle - Andrew Whitworth, Rob Havenstein, Chandler Brewer, Joseph Noteboom.

(Whitworth and Havenstein are likely whom we stick with. Brewer will take the swing tackle role, while Noteboom heals from his season-ending injury. I still think that Noteboom has all the potential in the world to potentially replace Whitworth if/when the latter retires.)

Interior - David Edwards, Austin Corbett, Bobby Evans, Tremayne Anchrum, Austin Blythe.

(Here's a minor shock: I think that Corbett takes the center job from Blythe, who will serve as a backup to all of the interior line positions. Edwards and Evans will take the left and right guard spots, respectively, while Anchrum will serve a sort-of redshirt year.)

Defense - 26

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Defensive line - Aaron Donald, A'Shawn Robinson, Michael Brockers, Greg Gaines, Sebastian Joseph-Day.

(I think we'll only keep five: none of the 3-techs we got as UDFAs will be ready, in my honest opinion, and SJD and Gaines have the ability to play all over. None of the five are surprises either.)

Inside linebacker - Travin Howard, Micah Kiser, Kenny Young, Natrez Patrick, Clay Johnston, Christian Rozeboom.

(Yes, I think that Howard and Kiser will win the starting jobs. Patrick could play outside and inside, in my view, and while I like Young, he's really more like Howard's backup. Johnston will hopefully recover from his numerous injuries in college, while Rozeboom is my sleeper to make the roster. And before you ask, no, I don't think Reeder makes this roster. He's too slow.)

Outside linebacker - Leonard Floyd, Samson Ebukam, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Terrell Lewis, Jachai Polite.

(Floyd was a solid signing who can play any linebacker spot in a 3-4, and Ebukam and Okoronkwo will likely play a lot because of that. Lewis and Polite will likely be designated pass rushers, but I have high hopes for the both of them; they both had first round grades at one point in their respective drafts.)

Cornerback - Jalen Ramsey, David Long, Darious Williams, Troy Hill, Levonta Taylor.

(Ramsey and Long's only surprise is that I think that Long starts on the boundary. Williams would be the nickel corner, but I think that Burgess takes the majority of the snaps. Troy Hill might be a bit expensive, but he's pretty good depth. Taylor is a former five-star prospect from Florida State who is undersized. I think he'll play a huge role on special teams.)

Safety - John Johnson III, Taylor Rapp, Terrell Burgess, Jordan Fuller, Jake Gervase.

(JJ3 and Rapp have the starting jobs, so no surprises there. Burgess is a high pick who will likely play all over, so he's not a surprise either. Fuller is a draft pick who will likely have a job, and Gervase wins a narrow battle for the fifth safety spot over Scott.)

Special teams - 3

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Kicker - Sam Sloman.
Punter - Johnny Hekker.
Long snapper - Jake McQuaide.
Kickoff return - Earnest Edwards IV.
Punt return - Nsimba Webster.

(Yeah, Sloman wins the kicker job. I like MacGinnis as well, but Hajrullahu's accuracy in 40 yard situations concerns me. Really, it's a toss-up between Sloman and MacGinnis, but I think the former wins. Webster can return punts, while Edwards was dominant on kickoffs in his college career. The other two need no explanation, although I can see us releasing McQuaide after this season because of his cap hit.)

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Practice Squad:

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Tyrique McGhee, CB.
Dayan Ghanwoloku, FS.
Michael Hoecht, DL.
Jonah Williams, DL.
Bryan London II, LB.
Daniel Bituli, LB.
Bryce Perkins, QB.
Trishton Jackson, WR.
Brandon Polk, WR,

Nate Trewyn, C.
Not on roster.
Not on roster.

(The two picks not on the roster are likely offensive line or a tight end, so let's ignore them for now. McGhee was a solid corner at Georgia. He's not especially big, but he'd fit as a nickel back. Ghanwoloku's named is spelled as Lake on the Rams roster, but he changed his surname thod season to honor the man who brought him to the U.S. from wartorn Liberia. He put in a solid season for BYU. Hoecht and Williams are both potential 3-techs who both have outstanding physical traits. London was a tackling machine at Texas State. Bituli is a throwback to a bygone era, where there were big linebackers for a 3-4. Perkins' throwing motion concerns me, but he produced at Virginia. Jackson and Polk are both speedsters. And Trewyn is a solidly-built center prospect.)

So, yeah, that's my 55-man roster and practice squad.
 

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Apologies, don't mean to correct you again on this, but the roster shift to 55 players starts this year.

Here is an article from the Rams own site referencing it part way down:


"Whoever comes up empty in those battles will join Allen in providing valuable depth, which is all the more meaningful under the new CBA rules allowing for 55-man rosters and 48 dressed on game day, with a requirement for one additional active offensive lineman compared to prior years."

Two practice-squad players per week may be elevated to the team's roster, meaning game-week roster sizes could effectively increase from 53 to 55. And a player elevated from the practice squad to the 55-man roster could be sent back to the practice squad two times without having to clear waivers.

The changes will give teams more flexibility in managing their rosters and, if utilized fully, will offer more opportunity for practice-squad players to earn active-roster salaries.

 

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I know it's splitting hairs a bit given that it's the backup position, but that's why I sure would love to see them go with a young arm who has some upside and is a better fit.

And I would love to see a QB that can run, come in offer a wildcat plus be able to throw the football as well. I watched some of Bryce Perkins of Virginia, he does have the ability to run, not sure about his accuracy, but he did have some big games for the Cavaliers and I'm glad the Rams brought him in.

Look if the Dolphins cut Rosen and he signs with the Rams, most of us are going to be happy because we that's an upgrade and it gives time to develop a Love or Perkins, but it appears they are happy with Wolford or want to see more of him.
 

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And I would love to see a QB that can run, come in offer a wildcat plus be able to throw the football as well. I watched some of Bryce Perkins of Virginia, he does have the ability to run, not sure about his accuracy, but he did have some big games for the Cavaliers and I'm glad the Rams brought him in.

Look if the Dolphins cut Rosen and he signs with the Rams, most of us are going to be happy because we that's an upgrade and it gives time to develop a Love or Perkins, but it appears they are happy with Wolford or want to see more of him.
I could care less about having a QB with mobility tbh. There has to be a certain amount of it in the WCO but beyond that it doesn't really matter. Distributing the ball quickly and accurately is what I want. A quick pass on time and on target is faster than any running QB. This offense is well schemed, it took a dip in that last season but will bounce back and be one of the best schemed attacks again this year. So smart, fast, and accurate is what I want.

Watching the Rams go wildcat would make me pull my fuckin hair out.

Oh and btw while we all liked some QBs for this offense I don't think any of us saw the one they like added to the roster. But I am a bit intrigued by Josh Love. Could he be "the real J Love" from this draft? Statistically unlikely, but what the hell I am intrigued and I am 100% behind him now as he's a RAM...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b0kTI__H8k


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Undrafted rookie Josh Love has been a Rams fan for a long time
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Cameron DaSilva
May 4, 2020 1:59 pm ET

Josh Love probably dreamed about making it to the NFL one day, and after a decorated career at San Jose State, he’s reached the pinnacle of the sport. Love signed with the Rams as an undrafted free agent following the 2020 draft, landing in a spot where he could compete to back up Jared Goff.

Playing for the Rams was likely part of the dream Love had, considering he’s been a fan of the team since he was little.
Love shared a childhood photo on Twitter this week, which showed him sitting at the top of a bunk bed with a St. Louis Rams pennant on the wall and a Dodgers hat hanging over the railing.


View: https://twitter.com/Josh12Love/status/1257096648032841728


Love grew up in Mission Viejo, Calif., and went to high school in Long Beach. He stayed out west for college at San Jose State, where he put up huge numbers in 2019: 3,923 yards, 22 touchdown passes, eight interceptions.

That level of success came after he walked onto the football team at San Jose State and earned a scholarship after redshirting his freshman year. Being an undrafted free agent, Love is still a long shot to stick with the Rams in 2020, but he has to be thrilled about even making it this far.
 

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why Rosen? I feel Bortles is better and he knows the offense
Well, Rosen was the subject of the thread that's why. Lol. I wouldnt trade for him (and that salary) but would gladly sign him if he were cut. As for Bortles, he'd still be my preferred #2 if he signs a cheap enough deal.
 

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Backup QB? Maybe they'll might pick up Colt McCoy when he's cut this off season. Then again, if they can afford him, Alex Smith was looking pretty good on a rehab video I saw the other day.

Either way, I would love for Bryce Perkins to make the team and the Rams have a package made for him. Perhaps, the same plan they attempted with Bortles last year.
 
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I could care less about having a QB with mobility tbh. There has to be a certain amount of it in the WCO but beyond that it doesn't really matter. Distributing the ball quickly and accurately is what I want. A quick pass on time and on target is faster than any running QB. This offense is well schemed, it took a dip in that last season but will bounce back and be one of the best schemed attacks again this year. So smart, fast, and accurate is what I want.

Watching the Rams go wildcat would make me pull my fuckin hair out.

Oh and btw while we all liked some QBs for this offense I don't think any of us saw the one they like added to the roster. But I am a bit intrigued by Josh Love. Could he be "the real J Love" from this draft? Statistically unlikely, but what the hell I am intrigued and I am 100% behind him now as he's a RAM...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b0kTI__H8k


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Undrafted rookie Josh Love has been a Rams fan for a long time
usatsi_13423146.jpg

Cameron DaSilva
May 4, 2020 1:59 pm ET

Josh Love probably dreamed about making it to the NFL one day, and after a decorated career at San Jose State, he’s reached the pinnacle of the sport. Love signed with the Rams as an undrafted free agent following the 2020 draft, landing in a spot where he could compete to back up Jared Goff.

Playing for the Rams was likely part of the dream Love had, considering he’s been a fan of the team since he was little.
Love shared a childhood photo on Twitter this week, which showed him sitting at the top of a bunk bed with a St. Louis Rams pennant on the wall and a Dodgers hat hanging over the railing.


View: https://twitter.com/Josh12Love/status/1257096648032841728


Love grew up in Mission Viejo, Calif., and went to high school in Long Beach. He stayed out west for college at San Jose State, where he put up huge numbers in 2019: 3,923 yards, 22 touchdown passes, eight interceptions.

That level of success came after he walked onto the football team at San Jose State and earned a scholarship after redshirting his freshman year. Being an undrafted free agent, Love is still a long shot to stick with the Rams in 2020, but he has to be thrilled about even making it this far.

Josh has a good arm that I see from these highlights but every pass was to his first read whether they were open or not.