Was the LA Rams owner murdered for fixing NFL games? | Carroll Rosenbloom’s mystery death (1979)

[Tano]

Hahahahahahaaaaa

You mean ME.

It goes both ways... usually. I'll be down in the Keys in August soaking up the heat and humidity while out on the water. My fam thinks the world of you and Mrs Mikey. Come on down and swim with da lizards. @Ramrasta will be your free diving buddy and show you how to get you some warm water bugs with no claws. If you can hang with him... my old pussy ass will take a Midol and maybe change your mind. Ya fucking polar bear.

He means me as well and you know what I say to that.

Fuck the cold.

 

[Memento]

Fuck water, period (except for drinking). This gal won't be dying the same way Carroll Rosenbloom died.

 

[gogoat1]

75 degree water is not cold. Up here in Nor Cal the water is in the mid-high 50s all year long. Better waves than So Cal the surfers tell me. But they wear wet suits. The badd ass boys run a jet ski out the mouth of Humboldt Bay and surf on the inside of the south jetty. It sicks out in the ocean and traps the waves coming from the south. Kinda knarly.
70 deg is a nice warm day here on the coast. And if you want 80+ just drive inland a few miles.
And a shark as big as Jaws washed up on a beach here a few years back.
I kinda hate the heat, you guys can have it.
Truckers get out of their rigs here and say the summer weather is perfect. I tell them to not spread it around.
I could not imagine living anywhere where its 90 with 100% humidity. Can not deal with that.

 

[Mackeyser]

75 degree water is not cold. Up here in Nor Cal the water is in the mid-high 50s all year long. Better waves than So Cal the surfers tell me. But they wear wet suits. The badd ass boys run a jet ski out the mouth of Humboldt Bay and surf on the inside of the south jetty. It sicks out in the ocean and traps the waves coming from the south. Kinda knarly.
70 deg is a nice warm day here on the coast. And if you want 80+ just drive inland a few miles.
And a shark as big as Jaws washed up on a beach here a few years back.
I kinda hate the heat, you guys can have it.
Truckers get out of their rigs here and say the summer weather is perfect. I tell them to not spread it around.
I could not imagine living anywhere where its 90 with 100% humidity. Can not deal with that.

We just left that!

I couldn’t be happier.

Now I know that first winter will be a shock to the nipples, but we’ll put in jackets. You can’t get more naked than naked

 

[FaulkSF]

I agree with you that we will never know.

But Georgia marrying Frontiere who had strong links to the Mafia just 9 months after Carroll's death makes it awfully suspicious.

There’s a lot I disagree with you on Tano, especially a good deli sandwich like a Ruben. However I agree with you on this, it is definitely Occam’s razor. Georgia marries a mob relation in Frontiere. He has ties to Carrol’s bookies.

Carroll walks on the beach and considers swimming. His son says no, don’t go dad. You never go alone.

The razor says the mob makes a threat on Steve and dispatches Carroll. Georgia and her new husband have the most to gain. The wealth stays in the family.

Is it not that obvious to anyone else as the most plausible alternative? Remember, the mob are not rocket scientists. They’re individuals like all of ROD. Sure they can make bodies disappear, but they can’t make miracles happen.

 

[So Ram]

There’s a lot I disagree with you on Tano, especially a good deli sandwich like a Ruben. However I agree with you on this, it is definitely Occam’s razor. Georgia marries a mob relation in Frontiere. He has ties to Carrol’s bookies.

Carroll walks on the beach and considers swimming. His son says no, don’t go dad. You never go alone.

The razor says the mob makes a threat on Steve and dispatches Carroll. Georgia and her new husband have the most to gain. The wealth stays in the family.

Is it not that obvious to anyone else as the most plausible alternative? Remember, the mob are not rocket scientists. They’re individuals like all of ROD. Sure they can make bodies disappear, but they can’t make miracles happen.

Sure it sounds all good.

My question is about the ocean & wussy Steve.No dad do’t go in.

Was the water rough or not ? If it was then how good of swimmers of the so called divers waiting in the ocean to see if he was going to go in ?

 

[Tano]

There’s a lot I disagree with you on Tano, especially a good deli sandwich like a Ruben. However I agree with you on this, it is definitely Occam’s razor. Georgia marries a mob relation in Frontiere. He has ties to Carrol’s bookies.

Carroll walks on the beach and considers swimming. His son says no, don’t go dad. You never go alone.

The razor says the mob makes a threat on Steve and dispatches Carroll. Georgia and her new husband have the most to gain. The wealth stays in the family.

Is it not that obvious to anyone else as the most plausible alternative? Remember, the mob are not rocket scientists. They’re individuals like all of ROD. Sure they can make bodies disappear, but they can’t make miracles happen.

What? You disagree with me on some stuff? Blasphemy!!!!

Sure it sounds all good.

My question is about the ocean & wussy Steve.No dad do’t go in.

Was the water rough or not ? If it was then how good of swimmers of the so called divers waiting in the ocean to see if he was going to go in ?

Again I don't think he went in. I think someone knocked him out and then dragged him into the ocean.

Of course, this is just my personal belief due to comments Steve stated and the coincidence that Georgia marries a mafia guy 9 months after Carroll's death.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Again I don't think he went in. I think someone knocked him out and then dragged him into the ocean.

So on a public beach in broad daylight...

You're saying the accomplices distracted him from the divers in the ocean, then knocked him out, then dragged him in the ocean, then the divers made sure he was drowned, then they swam away, then all the accomplices fled without being seen, then a bunch of witnesses saw him struggling in the ocean, and then the police came and dragged him out of the water?

Sounds like a perfect plan

 

[Tano]

So you're saying the accomplices distracted him from the divers in the ocean, then knocked him out, then dragged him in the ocean, then the divers made sure he was drowned, then they swam away, then all the accomplices fled without being seen, then a bunch of witnesses saw him struggling in the ocean, and then the police came and dragged him out of the water?

Sounds like a perfect plan

Again we don't know what actually happened.

As people have stated, what was reported and what actually happened is up in the air due to untrustworthyness of the authorities and witnesses. We won't ever know what actually happened.

Do you personally know the witnesses? I don't. And too many coincidences with what Steve stated and what happened after the fact with Georgia and Dominic.

All of those statements by the witnesses could have been made up. See Selassie and Kurt Faulk's posts.

And just to add - I don't trust anything in the news anymore. All news have their own priorities.

 

[Classic Rams]

No.

Yes.

 

[FaulkSF]

No.

Yes.

Except Carroll wasn’t a Homer, he was a good swimmer.

 

[AvengerRam]

I think too many are discounting the possibility that Bernie Miklasz was involved.

 

[Karate61]

So on a public beach in broad daylight...

You're saying the accomplices distracted him from the divers in the ocean, then knocked him out, then dragged him in the ocean, then the divers made sure he was drowned, then they swam away, then all the accomplices fled without being seen, then a bunch of witnesses saw him struggling in the ocean, and then the police came and dragged him out of the water?

Sounds like a perfect plan

Exactly!

Dumbest plan ever.

Think about the mobsters assigned to kill Rosenbloom, coming up with ideas how to do it:

"Maybe we should shoot him?"

"We could stab him...more quiet way to do it?"

"Let's hook him up to our car battery and juice him?"

"Hang him...let's hang him!"

"We could run him over...?"

"No wait. I got an idea. Let's rent diving gear and follow Rosenbloom around until he decides to go swimming in rough waters. Then, we can swim up on him, grab him, and drown him. It's a perfect plan. Even the ROD guys won't figure it out decades from now. Yeah, let's do this! Any of you guys scuba certified?"

Such a dumb plan to kill someone. I can't even believe it's a thing!

 

[FaulkSF]

Exactly!

Dumbest plan ever.

Think about the mobsters assigned to kill Rosenbloom, coming up with ideas how to do it:

"Maybe we should shoot him?"

"We could stab him...more quiet way to do it?"

"Let's hook him up to our car battery and juice him?"

"Hang him...let's hang him!"

"We could run him over...?"

"No wait. I got an idea. Let's rent diving gear and follow Rosenbloom around until he decides to go swimming in rough waters. Then, we can swim up on him, grab him, and drown him. It's a perfect plan. Even the ROD guys won't figure it out decades from now. Yeah, let's do this! Any of you guys scuba certified?"

Such a dumb plan to kill someone. I can't even believe it's a thing!

Make it look natural. You’re not asking the public to believe Carroll tripped and fell on a knife 23 times or accidentally dined and ingested a couple of bullets.

 

[Karate61]

Make it look natural. You’re not asking the public to believe Carroll tripped and fell on a knife 23 times or accidentally dined and ingested a couple of bullets.

Ok. Good angle on that. Still, this particular plan to drown him seems off the wall.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Ok. Good angle on that. Still, this particular plan to drown him seems off the wall.

I don't know. All of the Clinton's business associates before they became president seem to have either committed suicide or met with a grizzly motor accident causing death.

Were they good plans or just a natural occurrence completely coincidental?

.

 

[RhodyRams]

good God, please let football start again soon.. my fellow Ram brethren are losing their minds t right now

 

[Tano]

Exactly!

Dumbest plan ever.

Think about the mobsters assigned to kill Rosenbloom, coming up with ideas how to do it:

"Maybe we should shoot him?"

"We could stab him...more quiet way to do it?"

"Let's hook him up to our car battery and juice him?"

"Hang him...let's hang him!"

"We could run him over...?"

"No wait. I got an idea. Let's rent diving gear and follow Rosenbloom around until he decides to go swimming in rough waters. Then, we can swim up on him, grab him, and drown him. It's a perfect plan. Even the ROD guys won't figure it out decades from now. Yeah, let's do this! Any of you guys scuba certified?"

Such a dumb plan to kill someone. I can't even believe it's a thing!

Whatever dude.

I am not in the mafia so I wouldn't be the one to come up with the idea on how to make it look natural.

But somehow Rosenbloom died by drowning and there are suspicious circumstances all around. And I will go to my death bed believing that somehow Georgia had Rosenbloom killed.

I was just throwing ideas out there.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Exactly!

Dumbest plan ever.

Think about the mobsters assigned to kill Rosenbloom, coming up with ideas how to do it:

"Maybe we should shoot him?"

"We could stab him...more quiet way to do it?"

"Let's hook him up to our car battery and juice him?"

"Hang him...let's hang him!"

"We could run him over...?"

"No wait. I got an idea. Let's rent diving gear and follow Rosenbloom around until he decides to go swimming in rough waters. Then, we can swim up on him, grab him, and drown him. It's a perfect plan. Even the ROD guys won't figure it out decades from now. Yeah, let's do this! Any of you guys scuba certified?"

Such a dumb plan to kill someone. I can't even believe it's a thing!

Just make him disappear. It worked with Hoffa.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

75 degree water is not cold. Up here in Nor Cal the water is in the mid-high 50s all year long. Better waves than So Cal the surfers tell me. But they wear wet suits. The badd ass boys run a jet ski out the mouth of Humboldt Bay and surf on the inside of the south jetty. It sicks out in the ocean and traps the waves coming from the south. Kinda knarly.
70 deg is a nice warm day here on the coast. And if you want 80+ just drive inland a few miles.
And a shark as big as Jaws washed up on a beach here a few years back.
I kinda hate the heat, you guys can have it.
Truckers get out of their rigs here and say the summer weather is perfect. I tell them to not spread it around.
I could not imagine living anywhere where its 90 with 100% humidity. Can not deal with that.

The weather in NoCal sounds perfect. Here in PA we always get a few weeks every summer where the temp is in the high 90’s and the humidity is atrocious. Fortunately it only lasts about a week at a time and only happens 2-3 times a summer. I like the changing seasons. I also love the diversity of our forests. I’d have a hard time moving out of this area.

We just left that!

I couldn’t be happier.

Now I know that first winter will be a shock to the nipples, but we’ll put in jackets. You can’t get more naked than naked

I thought you moved from Florida? That gets hot and humid all the time. I don’t understand why people like it.