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bluecoconuts

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So the 5 turnovers by Mahomes were not his fault, yet the 2 by Goff were because he is inferior? Maybe if Mahomes was as good a QB as Goff the chiefs would have won, but then if his aunt had balls she would be his uncle. These blowhards are some of the funniest comics I have ever heard or read. When Mahomes learns to read a D and make a quick decision to throw to the open receiver and hit them in stride, like Goff does, the chiefs may be the better team. But today the Rams are the better team and Monday night proved, better on O, better on D and better on ST.

Pretty much.

Rams had no time outs and less than three minutes on the clock. They either had to score a touchdown or the game was over for them, there would be no getting the ball back.

Goff drives down the field and punches it in for 7 and the lead.

Chiefs still have their timeouts and just under two minutes left on the clock. They needed to drive into field goal range to tie the game (where honestly their insane luck regarding the coin toss could very well come into play and give them a chance to end it without Goff even stepping on the field), or get a touch down to win it. Mahomes looked a bit shaky and threw a pick. Then, amazingly he gets another chance to do the same thing and again he looks shaky and again he throws a pick. He's a young kid and it looked like the pressure got to him a bit. As he grows he'll get better at those drives, but he's not there yet. Goff is, ice in his veins, the moment is never to big for him. Plus Goff is better at fitting the ball into tighter windows, and all that. Mahomes is a super flashy and fun to watch player, and he's going to be very good in this league.

I still think Goff is the superior QB at this point and will have a better career at the end of the day. I said the same thing about Wentz during his flash, but like the Blue Giants in our Galaxy, they burn hot and fade fast.
 

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Thing is players like Mahomes those off schedule type QBs RG3 Watson wentz all have a stellar first season then drop off massively

The only one that has consistently played well and made a career out of doing it (as much I hate to admit it ) is wussell

A year of tape and they get figured out
 

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There was a false start on the first Everett TD, but it was damn close I think. Somebody mentioned or DBs doing some holding, but I didn't see/watch for it. Supposedly it O line got away with some holding. I didn't see anybody's jersey stretched out around the neck like Donald's though so they can EMA.

On that note, at least this game none of our guys was dragged down backwards from behind like Ebukam was against the Suckhawks last game. That was super egregious and still went uncalled.

Someone christened the "suckhawks" by a new name that I will forever remember... The Rainy City Bitch Chickens.

Took me almost 5 minutes for the tears to clear enough that I could read other posts.
 

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Thing is players like Mahomes those off schedule type QBs RG3 Watson wentz all have a stellar first season then drop off massively

The only one that has consistently played well and made a career out of doing it (as much I hate to admit it ) is wussell

A year of tape and they get figured out
Unfortunately, Wilson is a far better Qb than the other 4 you mentioned, he's saved Seattle's skin so many times - on his own!
 

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Walter actually needs to watch a game before he passes judgment...But that's fine, last week the Seahawks were kept in the game because of a more corrupt officiating crew, so I have no issue if everyone wants to communicate the Rams got the calls, that actually feels good for once.

BTW the call on the tip pass, should have been holding not pass interference,which would have been enforced. Watch the play, the DB is holding Everett by the collar plane as day, but I guess it should have not been called. Also the holding calls in the beginning were quite obvious as well, I don't get it.
 

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I really don't mind that the Rams aren't praised to high heaven by the media - I'd rather they constantly fly under the radar, be the underdog and keep winning...
 

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The problem with homers is that their opinion becomes dogma and they become irrational.

That's fine for fans, but it's unbecoming, unprofessional and irrational to do or be as someone who seeks to be seen as an expert.
 

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All I remember in 99 during the regular season the idiots in the media and sports talk shows kept saying they still have not beaten anybody, yet. Then they win a squeaker against the Bucs in the NFC Championship game and follow that with an exciting win against the Titans.
 

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Here are some of his comments on trades the Rams have made.
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Rams acquire DE/OLB Dante Fowler from Jaguars for 2019 3rd-round pick, 2020 5th-round pick
This is a big price to pay for a player who was seeing about a third of his team's defensive snaps. Dante Fowler is very talented - he was the third-overall pick in the 2015 NFL Draft - but hasn't lived up to it in Jacksonville.

His workout habits and effort have both been criticized. He logged eight sacks last year, but lucked into them, as the opposition was concentrating on Calais Campbell, Yannick Ngakoue and the Jaguars' many other talented defensive linemen.

Having said that, Fowler potentially fills a huge need for his new team. The Rams have a massive hole as far as their edge rushers were concerned. Their defensive line is incredible, but they weren't getting much production from their edge players.

And, if there's a defensive coordinator who can turn Fowler's career around, it's Wade Phillips. It's possible that Fowler will finally live up to his potential on a new team, especially considering that his contract is set to expire in March.

I'm grading this as a "B" for the Rams. Fowler could push them over the top, but there's also a good chance that he continues his sloth-like tendencies and struggles. Plus, the Rams paid a high price. Conversely, the Jaguars made out like bandits, acquiring a substantial draft choice and a mid-rounder on top of that for an impending free agent they were barely using.

Grade for Rams - B
Grade for Jaguars - A+

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Cowboys acquire RB/WR Tavon Austin from Rams for 2018 6th-round pick
The Rams have tried for years to make Tavon Austin into an offensive weapon, and they've failed every single time.

Grade for Cowboys - B-
Grade for Rams - B

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Rams acquire WR Brandin Cooks, 4th-round pick from Patriots for 1st, 6th-round picks
I don't know what's more surprising: The Rams trading for a receiver not named Odell Beckham Jr., or Brandin Cooks being dealt for the second year in a row. There's also a third option: Cooks being traded for a first-round pick.

I was leaving the gym when I saw an alert that Cooks was traded to the Patriots. I didn't see the compensation, so I thought about what it could be on the drive home. I thought a second-round pick seemed fair. Maybe a second and a fourth; something like that. The problem was that the Rams don't have a second-rounder, and that's when I realized that the first-round pick may have been involved.

This is too much for Cooks. There's no doubt that Cooks is a talented player, and he's still just 24, but it's very telling that two smart teams have given up on him already. Not only that, but they've done so in consecutive years!

Cooks is a problem in the locker room, no doubt, and the added caveat is that he's played exclusively with future Hall of Fame quarterbacks in Drew Brees and Tom Brady throughout his career. Jared Goff has great physical talent, but he's a young quarterback who isn't the sort of team leader Brees and Brady are at this stage of their careers. If Goff doesn't get Cooks the ball enough - a problem that occurred with Sammy Watkins last year - will Cooks cause major problems? It's certainly possible.

I don't hate this deal for the Rams because they're getting a very talented, young play-maker. However, I feel that they've overpaid for a big risk, so I can't grade this favorably for them. The Patriots, meanwhile, get to use the 23rd pick to either replace Cooks or select a left tackle like Kolton Miller. There's also a possibility that the Patriots could use Nos. 23 and 31 to trade for something - perhaps even Odell Beckham! I'd say New England clearly won this swap.

Grade for Rams - C
Grade for Patriots - A

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Rams acquire CB Aqib Talib from Broncos for 2018 5th-round picks
This trade pretty much mirror's yesterday's deal between the Eagles and Seahawks. Seattle was selling a 32-year-old defensive player without much leverage, and like Michael Bennett, Aqib Talib was expected to be released if his team couldn't trade him. This forced the Broncos into dealing him for just a fifth-round selection, which is pretty much what Seattle received for Bennett.

The Rams definitely won this transaction. Talib will rejoin Wade Phillips in Los Angeles, where he'll be a part of a terrific secondary. He'll start across from Marcus Peters, and they'll get great support from LaMarcus Joyner and John Johnson at safety. The Rams will arguably have the best secondary in the NFL, perhaps rivaling what the Broncos had in 2015 when they won the Super Bowl. Sure, Talib is on the downside of his career at age 32, but for just a fifth-round pick, he's totally worth it.

The Broncos, meanwhile, can't get a good grade for this, but it's not a failure either. They had to deal Talib because of cap restraints, and this new money will allow them to obtain a quarterback. Still, they could've waited and maybe gotten a fourth from some other team. If you recall, the Seahawks could have received a better deal from the Patriots for Bennett had they waited a bit. Perhaps the Broncos were in the same situation.

Grade for Rams - A+
Grade for Broncos - C-

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Giants acquire LB Alec Ogletree, 2018 7th-round pick from Rams for 2018 4th- and 6th-round picks

This trade isn't nearly as lopsided as the other one, as it makes sense for both teams. However, I'd say the Giants are the winners. They're getting a linebacker upgrade in Alec Ogletree, who has been an inconsistent player for the Rams, looking great at times, but missing too many tackles in other games.

Still, he's young (27 in September) and much better than the options they've had in recent years, and it's not like New York gave up a lot to acquire him. It's basically just a fourth-rounder, since the two teams swapped sixth- and seventh-round choices. Ogletree isn't a steal at that price, but he definitely provides good value.

The Rams, meanwhile, are clearing more cap space once again. Ogletree wasn't a great fit in Wade Phillips' offense, so it makes sense that they would deal him in addition to Robert Quinn, who also didn't take well to Phillips' scheme.

Grade for Giants - B+
Grade for Rams - B

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Dolphins acquire DE Robert Quinn from Rams for 2018 4th-round pick, swap of 6th-rounders
I really wanted to hate this trade for the Dolphins when I first heard it. Already $8 million over the cap, they had to cut numerous players to not only get into the black, but to also have enough room to sign their rookies. Yet, they made a move to acquire Robert Quinn, and now they're going to be $20 million in the red.

However, this is a great bargain for Quinn. Once I saw the compensation - a fourth-round pick and a swap of sixth-rounders - I was confused as to why the Rams hadn't gotten more. Sure, Quinn didn't look great in their 3-4 last season, but he still accumulated 8.5 sacks.

It's not like he played terribly. Trading him was still the right decision, but it seems like they should've been able to obtain a second-round selection for an extremely talented edge rusher who turns 28 this offseason.

Going back to the Dolphins, I actually think they won this deal. Like I said, I wanted to hate this trade, but considering the lack of resources they surrendered, this was almost too good to pass up. They're going to cut a ton of players, but that was the idea anyway.

They'll get rid of Ndamukong Suh, which will free up lots of money. Jarvis Landry, Ja'Wuan James and others will be gone as well. At the very least, Miami will have two talented edge rushers left over (Quinn and Charles Harris) to build around.

Grade for Dolphins - B
Grade for Rams - C

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Rams acquire CB Marcus Peters, 2018 6th-rounder from Chiefs for 2018 4th-rounder, 2019 2nd-rounder
We finally have the details of the Marcus Peters trade. The Chiefs will be getting back a fourth-round pick this April and a 2019 second-round choice. They'll also be surrendering a sixth-rounder this year in addition to Peters.

I wrote that the Chiefs were likely getting back a second-day selection of some sort, but I thought it would be this year. I'm not sure why they have to wait until 2019 to get it. Peters is a terrific cornerback, and Kansas City should've been able to obtain more for him. However, teams were aware that the Chiefs were frustrated with Peters, so that killed his value. As a result, this is all Kansas City was able to obtain for him.

The Rams obviously won this swap. Peters will provide a great boost for their secondary, which will lose Trumaine Johnson to free agency. Giving up a second-round pick in 2019 is significant, but definitely worth it. They also have to move down two rounds this April, but that's not a big deal.

The Chiefs, meanwhile, look bad, but they didn't want Peters around, and they acquired two talented corners (Kendall Fuller, David Amerson) to compensate for his loss, so I think they'll be fine. I just wish they could've gotten a bit more. Still, I don't think this trade is as bad as people are making it out to be. I still consider the Chiefs one of the favorites to reach the Super Bowl out of the AFC.

Grade for Rams - A-
Grade for Chiefs - C+
 

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So, the latest from our friend Walter.

Rams are ranked #3 and Chiefs still #2 based on this:

The Rams beat the Chiefs, but only by three despite having so much going for them. They were at home, they had emotion from the wildfires on their side, and they got almost every single call by what almost seemed like a corrupt officiating crew. The Chiefs nearly won, and I imagine they'd prevail at home or a neutral field.

Bhahahahahahahaha!
That sounds like Skip Bayless talking. Almost verbatim. Hmmm...
 

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I hate it when people talk about a team having an emotional edge because of something going on in the community.
So baseless and stupid.
These are professionals. Not some high school team that is actually able to stay focused for a whole game for the first time because of some external thing.
To say a team has an advantage because of some disaster is to say they are not as focused or talented or trying as hard every other game because things are hunky-dory.
More likely to get a poor performance from an individual player because he found incriminating texts between his girl and a friend, he got a large tax bill, his dog died or something like that. Although I wouldn't expect that to impact performance either for guys who have learned to focus and play through pain and distractions their whole careers.
 

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I hate it when people talk about a team having an emotional edge because of something going on in the community.

A story about that after 9/11 the company I worked for put me in the great State of Connecticut quite a bit and in my travels because I am anti Yankees I was rooting for the Arizona Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series, I had an older woman at one of the Connecticut State Offices inform me rooting against the Yankees was anti american because of what happen in New York. I then responded by asking her "So all the people in Arizona rooting for their team are anti american?" She just shook her head, but I made sure to go back to her office after the resounding Diamondback victory.
 

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I think the refs are allowing more holding this year to protect the QBs. Just a thought. I see it everywhere more and more.

My thought was more in the secondary, the beginning of the game, it was obvious the Chief DB's were holding, but those were bad calls? Again, I don't get it? The one hit on Woods, okay, maybe that, but one call during that series. Amazing? Anyway again it does not bother me because the Rams have been on the wrong side of officiating for years, so IMO, the calls were fair and again, it's like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder.
 
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More importantly, why do people care were some jerk ranks their team? Seriously, these rankings have about as much to do with football as batting averages.
 

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We spent the first 9 weeks as the media's #1. It might not be such a bad thing to no longer be the top dog everyone's trying to knock off every week now.
 

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More importantly, why do people care were some jerk ranks their team? Seriously, these rankings have about as much to do with football as batting averages.
For me it's comedic relief. That and reading his draft profiles and rankings are a train wreck. He's very entertaining when you realize how bad he is.
 

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My thought was more in the secondary, the beginning of the game, it was obvious the Chief DB's were holding, but those were bad calls? Again, I don't get it? The one hit on Woods, okay, maybe that, but one call during that series. Amazing? Anyway again it does not bother me because the Rams have been on the wrong side of officiating for years, so IMO, the calls were fair and again, it's like beauty, it's in the eye of the beholder.
I see your point. I agree. I wonder sometimes if the refs get caught up in the “emotional” moments and call the plays accordingly. It allows the refs to control the game narrative to an incredible degree. It takes a real pro to be totally unaffected by the romantic tempo of the games. I believe most refs try their best to be neutral, but there are always those refs that never seem to give our team or other teams the benefit of the doubt. Just my opinion of course.