Von Miller to Bills

[Ram65]

I’ve seen players completely wash out because of effort and getting a long term deal. There’s a reason why I don’t trust Key on a long term contract.

I stated early two-year deal, with third-year out/option.


SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

Arden Key is Proving to be an Offseason Steal for the 49ers​

Arden Key is becoming a key contributor for the 49ers pass rush.

• JOSE LUIS SANCHEZ III
• DEC 21, 2021

Arden Key has been fantastic the past several weeks.
How he has stepped up since Week 9 has been a solid benefit for the 49ers pass rush. Everything productive out of the pass rush came from Nick Bosa. Eventually, Bosa was going to need a supporting cast to aid him, especially with Dee Ford out of the picture.

Key has definitely been a large part of the charge to lead support for Bosa. He is turning it up so heavily that Key is having the best season of his career. It is a credit to the work he has done to progress, the players around him, and of course defensive line coach Kris Kocurek. Anytime there is potential in a player, Kocurek can get that out of them.
The 49ers signed Key in free agency to a one-year deal worth more than one million dollars as he exited the Raiders. Key is becoming stellar value for the 49ers.

In fact, Key is proving to be an offseason steal for the 49ers.

Strictly off what the 49ers signed him for, Key looks like a tremendous offseason signing. If he can maintain this form going into the playoffs should the 49ers make it, then it will not even be up for debate at that point. Anytime a low risk, high reward signing pans out in free agency, it is always a massive win because it isn't common to work out. Key clearly is working out when the 49ers pass rush needed more than just Bosa.

“I think Arden has gotten progressively better," said DeMeco Ryans. "He's proven to us that he can go in and be an effective pass rusher for us. The past couple of weeks, I don't know if it's been every week, but he's consistently hitting the quarterback. And when you do that, it just gives us more confidence to give him more opportunities to go out and rush the passer and that's what he's been doing."
Key has registered eight pressures and seven quarterback hits since Week 9, so it is more than just the past couple of weeks. Key is hitting his stride perfectly as the 49ers make their run for a playoff berth.

The 49ers needed someone to step up in the pass rush department. Arik Armstead would be the guy to look to after Bosa, but he isn't making enough of an impact to be a clear-cut threat.

The pass rush has essentially been Key and other players on the defensive line platooning. They're all shuffling production. It is essentially a crapshoot of who is going to make an impact. So far, it is Key who has been the most impactful as he has the second most sacks on the team with five. He has a sack in every game since Week 9 aside from Week 12.

"I think Arden is having a career year, the most sacks he's ever had in his career,” Ryans said. “I'm so happy for him to be able to have the type of year that he's having and proud of the way that he's working. Proud of what he's doing on Sundays for us."

 

[ArkyRamsFan]

people giving von shit - i mean I'll go back to not giving two fucks about him, but you can't blame him.

He already has 2 super bowls and he is going to another super bowl level team.

He made some big plays but I'm not even sure he was that great tbh.

Ellard80,
Yeah, I was thinking this myself a bit ago. He flashed and played well in the Playoffs and we can all be grateful for that, but I thought he disappeared for some long stretches in the other games.

Also, is it just me or did it look like he was going at about 3/4 speed? I know he's more than fast enough when he turns it on but seems other plays he wasn't going balls to the walls.

Just my .02

~ArkyRamsFan~

 

[Memento]

I stated early two-year deal, with third-year out/option.


SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

Arden Key is Proving to be an Offseason Steal for the 49ers​

Arden Key is becoming a key contributor for the 49ers pass rush.

• JOSE LUIS SANCHEZ III
• DEC 21, 2021

Arden Key has been fantastic the past several weeks.
How he has stepped up since Week 9 has been a solid benefit for the 49ers pass rush. Everything productive out of the pass rush came from Nick Bosa. Eventually, Bosa was going to need a supporting cast to aid him, especially with Dee Ford out of the picture.

Key has definitely been a large part of the charge to lead support for Bosa. He is turning it up so heavily that Key is having the best season of his career. It is a credit to the work he has done to progress, the players around him, and of course defensive line coach Kris Kocurek. Anytime there is potential in a player, Kocurek can get that out of them.
The 49ers signed Key in free agency to a one-year deal worth more than one million dollars as he exited the Raiders. Key is becoming stellar value for the 49ers.

In fact, Key is proving to be an offseason steal for the 49ers.

Strictly off what the 49ers signed him for, Key looks like a tremendous offseason signing. If he can maintain this form going into the playoffs should the 49ers make it, then it will not even be up for debate at that point. Anytime a low risk, high reward signing pans out in free agency, it is always a massive win because it isn't common to work out. Key clearly is working out when the 49ers pass rush needed more than just Bosa.

“I think Arden has gotten progressively better," said DeMeco Ryans. "He's proven to us that he can go in and be an effective pass rusher for us. The past couple of weeks, I don't know if it's been every week, but he's consistently hitting the quarterback. And when you do that, it just gives us more confidence to give him more opportunities to go out and rush the passer and that's what he's been doing."
Key has registered eight pressures and seven quarterback hits since Week 9, so it is more than just the past couple of weeks. Key is hitting his stride perfectly as the 49ers make their run for a playoff berth.

The 49ers needed someone to step up in the pass rush department. Arik Armstead would be the guy to look to after Bosa, but he isn't making enough of an impact to be a clear-cut threat.

The pass rush has essentially been Key and other players on the defensive line platooning. They're all shuffling production. It is essentially a crapshoot of who is going to make an impact. So far, it is Key who has been the most impactful as he has the second most sacks on the team with five. He has a sack in every game since Week 9 aside from Week 12.

"I think Arden is having a career year, the most sacks he's ever had in his career,” Ryans said. “I'm so happy for him to be able to have the type of year that he's having and proud of the way that he's working. Proud of what he's doing on Sundays for us."

That’s fair, so long as there’s an opt-out in the second year as well. I don’t know how realistic it is, but that’s my thought.

As for the article, it mentioned nothing about playing the run. Key’s a good pass rusher, but if he’s on the field against the 69ers, they’ll audible to a run play to Key’s side every time.

 

[99Balloons]

What happened to Von saying which number to choose? 58 or 40? So he was playing the “business and money” game and BSPN media heads were saying he’s going to the Broncos. So much for that cowboy ranch in the Rockies. SMH.

 

[SWAdude]

To be honest......

I have been with the Rams for close to 50 years.

I am with Buffalo for that kind of Bread. (Intentional aged reference)

It is all about AD. Expensive one year contract tho.

 

[jrry32]

Oh my bad.
Still, another guy who wasn’t a top 50 FA much less a top 5er.
Good for Von. I look forward to watching him terrorize the Patriots. Bills give him a legit shot to win Sb with 3rd team IIRC, there’s only like 1 or 2 guys who did it?

Whoa there, he was one of the NFL's best pass rushers in 2019 and 2020. You're selling him short.

 

[Loyal]

He did mess with our hopes and expectations after the Super Bowl. I just worry how his departure affects AD. AD has accomplished everything he wanted to do in football with that Super Bowl win. He has a young family, two children of which live in Pittsburgh. He's thirty years old and if what motivated him in the past to work out like a mad man is no longer there, he might drop off a cliff, production wise. Von was able to help motivate him, but maybe that was all BS, I don't know.

Your move, AD.

 

[thirteen28]

That's the problem. Sill AD retire now. SHyte's about to get real...lol

I can't honestly see AD retiring now. Granted, that conforms with my hopes, but I think he still likes playing football too much.

 

[Ellard80]

What happened to Von saying which number to choose? 58 or 40? So he was playing the “business and money” game and BSPN media heads were saying he’s going to the Broncos. So much for that cowboy ranch in the Rockies. SMH.

he already has super bowls... so for his age if someone going to give him the most money

 

[Loyal]

I can't honestly see AD retiring now. Granted, that conforms with my hopes, but I think he still likes playing football too much.

We are about to find out.

 

[dieterbrock]

Whoa there, he was one of the NFL's best pass rushers in 2019 and 2020. You're selling him short.

I'm not selling him short, I just havent found him listed among the top 50 available free agents anywhere.

 

[99Balloons]

he already has super bowls... so for his age if someone going to give him the most money

Exactly. Von was just trolling on Instagram. I knew the Rams could not afford him.

The bottom line is, AD made Von Miller’s job that much easier. We shall see whether Von is a one-man defensive rock band in Buffalo unless the Bills have all the defensive pieces in places to win it all.

 

[Ram65]

That’s fair, so long as there’s an opt-out in the second year as well. I don’t know how realistic it is, but that’s my thought.

As for the article, it mentioned nothing about playing the run. Key’s a good pass rusher, but if he’s on the field against the 69ers, they’ll audible to a run play to Key’s side every time.

We can go back and forth forever. Key would be a pass rush specialist unless he proves he can stop the run consistently. The Rams still have T-Lewis and Garrett. The Rams may go for Fowler or trade for Hunter. The point is we have to let Snead play out the rest of the off-season.

The Rams will move on without Von Miller.

 

[Memento]

We can go back and forth forever. Key would be a pass rush specialist unless he proves he can stop the run consistently. The Rams still have T-Lewis and Garrett. The Rams may go for Fowler or trade for Hunter. The point is we have to let Snead play out the rest of the off-season.

The Rams will move on without Von Miller.

I know they will. I trust Snead and McVay unconditionally. I just don’t see an edge rusher aside from Hunter who deserves a long term deal, or - more to my problem with Miller - an elite edge rusher in along with maybe a Myles Jack, if Miller had let the team know that he wasn’t signing here.

If he had merely done that, I would not have the animosity toward him that I currently have. But Miller played coy, lied to fans and the media about “loving L.A.” and “wanting to stay”. In doing that, he fucked over our plans. We haven’t gotten an elite edge, and Miller left us high and dry.

 

[jrry32]

I'm not selling him short, I just havent found him listed among the top 50 available free agents anywhere.

Because the Packers cut him only two days ago.

 

[Ram65]

I know they will. I trust Snead and McVay unconditionally. I just don’t see an edge rusher aside from Hunter who deserves a long term deal, or - more to my problem with Miller - an elite edge rusher in along with maybe a Myles Jack, if Miller had let the team know that he wasn’t signing here.

If he had merely done that, I would not have the animosity toward him that I currently have. But Miller played coy, lied to fans and the media about “loving L.A.” and “wanting to stay”. In doing that, he fucked over our plans. We haven’t gotten an elite edge, and Miller left us high and dry.

I'm not sure about the need for a long-term deal. Miller was a two year performance expectation.

We don't know how Miller and his agent (s) played it. I'm willing to bet the Rams knew it was going to be an easy signing. It's Snead's and McVay's job to have an alternate plan.

You can hold a grudge against Miller but, it is just the business of the NFL.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Because the Packers cut him only two days ago.

Hey jrry, what kind of contract (years, pay, guarantee) offer you willing to put out for Fowler ?

 

[jrry32]

Hey jrry, what kind of contract (years, pay, guarantee) offer you willing to put out for Fowler ?

I imagine he'd want another one year deal. I think two years $14 million sounds fair to me.

 

[Memento]

I'm not sure about the need for a long-term deal. Miller was a two year performance expectation.

We don't know how Miller and his agent (s) played it. I'm willing to bet the Rams knew it was going to be an easy signing. It's Snead's and McVay's job to have an alternate plan.

You can hold a grudge against Miller but, it is just the business of the NFL.

I get that it’s a business, and he’s entitled to the money he gets. I just wish Miller had been honest from the start, and hadn’t tried to play coy.

 

[TexasRam]

Well shit.

I guess we can go the route of signing a late season pass rusher again like we did with Miller and Fowler - assuming we can’t get a top edge rusher in free agency.

I would go after a good CB now. Gilmore, Douglas or Heyward If still available.