Vinovich loves the Rams

[Mackeyser]

Yeah, he's never gotten over losing to Montana and the Niners in the 1988 Super Bowl. Betcha it keeps him up all night. BTW--I believe the other Studio hosts disagreed vehemently.

I disagree with Boomer Esiason plenty, but his tireless work on advocating for Cystic Fibrosis is legit. The guy works like a dog so that he can keep getting the word and I respect that.

As for the call, I'm done with it.

I can't change it, didn't make it and it wasn't the only missed/non-call that would have significantly affected the game.

Moving on to the Super Bowl!!!

 

[yrba1]

I'm just hoping there's retribution against Vinovich. If this isn't a wake up call for the NFL to have their refs under a full time payroll to improve their officiating, I don't know what will.

 

[Merlin]

It makes me proud that no matter how we got jobbed this year, McVay would NEVER, EVER, EVER put a loss on the Refs, even as we've seen some outrageous stuff this year.

Great point Mack you are absolutely right. McVay is class through and through.

Some people will forever claim you didn't deserve to go. Mostly Saints fans. Just the way it is.

Raiders fans still gripe about being robbed by the Pats, good friend of mine never shuts up about it. Same with Rams fans and at the time the tapes were burned it was a real scandal. But now? Nobody cares. There's a massive effin graveyard of teams who have "if only" excuses with bad calls, no calls, and bad bounces.

Only Saints fans are going to give a F about that BS. And probably the ones who haven't been watching the game all that long too tbh.

 

[Ramit]

Bro, go post this on an 'aints board! That would be epic lmao

 

[Rambitious1]

I saw 23 - 3 bad calls, or no calls in the Saints favor, so screw them. Me and my friend kept count, and we agreed on every call. Shoot, the drive before they face masked Goff, which would have been a 1st and goal at the 1 1/2. They high lowed Fowler on their last drive., they face masked Cooks on his big catch, they were holding Everett on our last drive, holding his arm while he was running, on what might have been a touchdown. On the Higbee score Robert Woods, who was behind him, was held the whole route, so screw this refs helped us narrative. I could go on.

 

[Rambitious1]

It's not up to us.

If it was fair and square from the beginning, the game would have been in LA.

If it was fair and square from the beginning, the NO player would have been ejected for that running stomp on the head of the grounded Ram runner along with a 15 yard penalty. You KNOW if it was Suh coming in late on a play and he jumped up and his foot landed on an opposing player's helmet, it would have been front page news in Katmandu...

If it was fair and square from the beginning, they would have called the face masks.

If it was fair and square from the beginning, they would have called all of the delays of game, mostly on NO.

We don't call the games and we have to live with the decisions be they fair or not as do the teams.

Funny, I didn't hear any NO fans or players talking about the Hekker first down which would have almost certainly put the game in LA.

Didn't hear about any of the non-calls that went for NO in a big way, especially early.

Of course, I'd rather they get every call right, every time, with the proper time keeping and the exact spot being correct every time.

But... things get screwed up and I don't think people understand exactly how fast all this stuff happens. It's wicked fast. At game speed, I also thought it was genuinely a bang-bang play.

And here's the BOTTOM LINE: The Saints had the ball first with the opportunity to END THE GAME and obviate any controversy. The Pats sure got the ball first in OT and ended it, never letting Mahomes even sniff the OT.

So I have no patience with all this focus on ONE non-call when a) there was a boatload and most did NOT favor the Rams and b) the Saints still had control over their own destiny and fate and were outplayed in OT.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

All the rest is distraction.

 

[FarNorth]

It's not up to us.

If it was fair and square from the beginning, the game would have been in LA.

If it was fair and square from the beginning, the NO player would have been ejected for that running stomp on the head of the grounded Ram runner along with a 15 yard penalty. You KNOW if it was Suh coming in late on a play and he jumped up and his foot landed on an opposing player's helmet, it would have been front page news in Katmandu...

If it was fair and square from the beginning, they would have called the face masks.

If it was fair and square from the beginning, they would have called all of the delays of game, mostly on NO.

We don't call the games and we have to live with the decisions be they fair or not as do the teams.

Funny, I didn't hear any NO fans or players talking about the Hekker first down which would have almost certainly put the game in LA.

Didn't hear about any of the non-calls that went for NO in a big way, especially early.

Of course, I'd rather they get every call right, every time, with the proper time keeping and the exact spot being correct every time.

But... things get screwed up and I don't think people understand exactly how fast all this stuff happens. It's wicked fast. At game speed, I also thought it was genuinely a bang-bang play.

And here's the BOTTOM LINE: The Saints had the ball first with the opportunity to END THE GAME and obviate any controversy. The Pats sure got the ball first in OT and ended it, never letting Mahomes even sniff the OT.

So I have no patience with all this focus on ONE non-call when a) there was a boatload and most did NOT favor the Rams and b) the Saints still had control over their own destiny and fate and were outplayed in OT.

THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

All the rest is distraction.

The way the refs called the game is consistent with many playoff games past and not so far past where the refs just let them play. That means more physicality and fewer calls all around. I'm not only fine with that, I would like to see more games called that way.

Let the refs not make calls like the NRC play when it was really close and the receiver was never going to catch it. In the old days, it would have just been another bang bang play. And a judgment no-call by the ref.

But we've gotten so used to hyper, micro review of plays that it's considered an entitlement to think that every play should be reviewed for something, to achieve some abstract perfection, in this case whether NRC arrived maybe one or two tenths of a second too soon on an out of reach ball.

And that's exactly what Payton was calling for, asking the league committee to review more stuff or maybe EVERYTHING to see what maybe could have been called on any given play. It's directionally totally wrong imo.

To hell with all that and to hell with all the whining. How about we play football games instead?

 

[UKram]

maybe if #cantguardmike didnt get #guarded the refs wouldnt have been able to decide the game

if Wade didnt make the adjustment to Littleton in man on kamara the refs wouldnt have been able to decide the games

if the saints didnt blow a 13 point lead the refs wouldnt have been able to decide it

if i was Qbing the rams the refs wouldnt have been able to decide

im thinking old vino retires from reffing after this

funny though i said previous its not what vino and crew call its what they dont call that will matter

 

[RAMBUSH]

Great point Mack you are absolutely right. McVay is class through and through.



Raiders fans still gripe about being robbed by the Pats, good friend of mine never shuts up about it. Same with Rams fans and at the time the tapes were burned it was a real scandal. But now? Nobody cares. There's a massive effin graveyard of teams who have "if only" excuses with bad calls, no calls, and bad bounces.

Only Saints fans are going to give a F about that BS. And probably the ones who haven't been watching the game all that long too tbh.

Tell your raider fan buds to let it go , we woulda killed the raiders anyway. Lol.

 

[FrantikRam]

Great point Mack you are absolutely right. McVay is class through and through.



Raiders fans still gripe about being robbed by the Pats, good friend of mine never shuts up about it. Same with Rams fans and at the time the tapes were burned it was a real scandal. But now? Nobody cares. There's a massive effin graveyard of teams who have "if only" excuses with bad calls, no calls, and bad bounces.

Only Saints fans are going to give a F about that BS. And probably the ones who haven't been watching the game all that long too tbh.

And what's awesome about this game is that the Saints still took the lead and all three of their units had chances to win the game.

Kills me hearing Saints players talking about the refs and how they needed to do their job. What about your job??

 

[FrantikRam]

maybe if #cantguardmike didnt get #guarded the refs wouldnt have been able to decide the game

if Wade didnt make the adjustment to Littleton in man on kamara the refs wouldnt have been able to decide the games

if the saints didnt blow a 13 point lead the refs wouldnt have been able to decide it

if i was Qbing the rams the refs wouldnt have been able to decide

im thinking old vino retires from reffing after this

funny though i said previous its not what vino and crew call its what they dont call that will matter

Like calling ZERO penalties on the Saints in the first half despite some obvious infractions, which was instrumental in them being up 13-0

 

[nighttrain]

Definitely didn't respect that call.. but hey luck is a real thing. Sometimes you get the right call or right no call at the moment you need it.

a lifetime of EXPERIENCE HAS TAUGHT ME THAT LUCK COUNTS, WHETHER GOOD OR BAD
train

 

[majrleaged]

Funny thing is Brady throws a game ending pick, but KC gets called for a neutral zone call away from the play and nobody crying about that

Cause it had to be called. How far do you have to be offsides for you to notice your offsides. He practically lined up on the Pat's line.

 

[majrleaged]

No matter what happens in the Super Bowl, that non-call will never go away. You will see it for years to come. Just like when Drew Pearson pushed off in MN years ago. It will forever be talked about. Get used to it.

Dont care.

 

[den-the-coach]

This Non Call is going to lead to some backlash against the Rams and IMO, more people might be rooting for the Patriots because of it. Just like they did in 2001 because of 9/11 and wanting to be associated with the Patriots.

I understand the outrage and as Ram fans we've been calling for the ability to review penalties as well because we have been on the other side far too long. My hope is that McVay and the Rams use this as motivation to go out and dominate the New England Patriots. Nobody ever has in a Super Bowl and if they can it will shut up the masses, however, I'm prepared for a one sided officiated game and people communicating "What goes around, comes around."

 

[nighttrain]

Some people will forever claim you didn't deserve to go. Mostly Saints fans. Just the way it is.

ask any Ram fan if they care what other teams fans say, we dont to a man
train

 

[dieterbrock]

Cause it had to be called. How far do you have to be offsides for you to notice your offsides. He practically lined up on the Pat's line.

Kind of like, how long does the play clock have to read 00 before a delay of game??

 

[RamsSince1969]

Kind of like, how long does the play clock have to read 00 before a delay of game??

Aikman did comment something like "with this noise level in here, if it's at zero or close and the snap occurs, they're going to let it go". So, they let the Saints have some breaks and it was OK with everyone. It's cool everyone, it's noisy in here so it's all good. Swallow the whistles.

 

[majrleaged]

The non call is what happens when you go a whole fucking game not calling obvious penalties. Then when a really obvious penalty happens, your instincts are to not call it. The NFL doesn't want it to be about the refs and tells them to let them play. This is what you get. Or as the Warden in Cool Hand Luke says, " that's the way he wants it, thats the way he gets it" .

 

[-X-]

The non call is what happens when you go a whole freaking game not calling obvious penalties. Then when a really obvious penalty happens, your instincts are to not call it.

Interesting take.