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lol really? about 90% of all football coaches make the same call.

thats jsut me from watching about 30 years of football

i mean i would have been fine if he tried to get the first down... but spare me because thats what all coaches do.

If it's Aaron Rodgers or Mahomes or Brady under center, 99% of coaches try for the 1st down.

Sure, you can say Jimmy G isn't any of those guys. But for the last 30 minutes, he had been. Some guys just "have it" certain times, and Jimmy had it the whole 2nd half. You go for the win.

McVay went for the "not lose". Just like how he capitulated at the end of regulation and didn't even try to get into FG range to win it in regulation. Sure, the odds of them getting the 35 yards on a toss were less than 50%, but whatever number less than 50 that was, it was more than the 0% chance he got by just letting the clock run with a timeout in his pocket and hope for a good coin toss. Long slant route towards the sidelines with 2 receivers that can absolutely outrun their defenders has a way better chance of success than walking off the field.

Like, everybody's just ignoring this end of regulation sequence when it was the most egregious of the day.
 

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If you guys haven't seen the post game presser I encourage you all to do so.

McVay looks like he's on the verge of tears. I've never seen him so pissed off and be so short with the media. He was ready to go into the locker room and let heads roll.

Ramsey doesn't say much but makes sure to get in a shot at the conservative defensive scheme. Now we all know what he was yelling at Morris on the sidelines about. He's really wasting his talent on this defense.
Haven't watched the pressers yet, will probably wait till tmrw. But if one Ramsey who is one of our captains is calling out Morris then that means there's a high chance the locker room feels the same way.

As soon as I saw that drive with 80 secs left and how easy it was for SF. How many blown coverages there were. How soft the coverage was. I knew for sure Morris was done after this year. When they showed McVay on the sideline his face said it all. Morris is gone 100%.
 

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Guess how many times our defense gave up a game tying TD drive last year when the opposition had 88 yards to go, no timeouts and less than two minutes to play?
Well.. I remember them giving up a crucial game ending drive to the 9ers and a backup QB.

So.. there's that.
 

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Is the success or failure of the Stafford trade being based on solely the 2021 season? I don’t get that. Especially the regular season.

I get that everyone wants to assign a grade but unfortunately it might be 2-3 years before we see if it was worth it or not.
The success or failure of the trade depends if we win it all or not. If we fail this year then at that moment it was a failure. The rams are all in for a reason.
 

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Here's where I'm at right now at this.

No.. today's loss wasn't his fault. As I've said.. I think the single biggest issue in this game was the Rams offensive line. It was the difference between victory and defeat, imo.

But, with the ball in hand and a chance to tie or win the game.. .the QB they spent two firsts on threw a pretty lame int.

That doesn't feel like a guy I want to give two first rounders up for.

We'll see in the playoffs.
I’d say that’s a very fair take.

I’d just say that the go ahead TD drive was very much who the Rams gave up 2 firsts for. Game should’ve never gone to OT.
 

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Here's where I'm at right now at this.

No.. today's loss wasn't his fault. As I've said.. I think the single biggest issue in this game was the Rams offensive line. It was the difference between victory and defeat, imo.

But, with the ball in hand and a chance to tie or win the game.. .the QB they spent two firsts on threw a pretty lame int.

That doesn't feel like a guy I want to give two first rounders up for.

We'll see in the playoffs.
Stafford had already scored a TD with 80ish sec left to give us what should have been another 4th quarter win. Not many Coach's or DC's in the league are going to say I cant help you win if you give me a 7 point lead with 80ish seconds to go. That should have done it.

This game was such a mess that anyone can argue anything with relative conviction.

I think Fuller leaving the game had a very large impact on the outcome and specifically the 9er comeback from what should have been a game ending and winning drive
 

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I'm not sure why this is so hard to grasp. It wasnt on McVay. He doesn't play defense.

He did exactly what he needed to for AD and Ramsey to close the door. AD was invisible and Ramsey let Deebo run right past him for the biggest play of the game.

McVay made consistently good decisions and to be frank, given how badly the OL got dominated, it's a miracle that the offense put up 24 points.
Because his teams play not to lose on offense and defense.

I don't know why that's hard to grasp.

No killer instinct.
 

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Matthew Stafford is not getting it done.

That’s it. It’s one and done.

McVay is Kyle Shanahan’s bitch. 0-6.
 

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There was a shot of him on the broadcast yelling at Morris while he had his back to him. Morris didn't bother to turn around but Ramsey was pissed.
Good. I'm glad. Players know this shit isn't working.
 

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Something struck me in Von Miller's interview this week. He said the team doesn't do anything different win or lose. That it's different from anywhere else he's played.
Then I thought about Demarco Farr talking about "niners week". It was a different level of seriousness. They knew what it meant.
And I watched McVays and the others interviews and they all downplay the rivalry. They act like it's just another week.

And it shows.
 

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Haven't watched the pressers yet, will probably wait till tmrw. But if one Ramsey who is one of our captains is calling out Morris then that means there's a high chance the locker room feels the same way.

As soon as I saw that drive with 80 secs left and how easy it was for SF. How many blown coverages there were. How soft the coverage was. I knew for sure Morris was done after this year. When they showed McVay on the sideline his face said it all. Morris is gone 100%.
If Ramsey is calling out Morris.. then who's calling out Ramsey? Biggest, game-changing play on that drive was him misplaying Deebo and letting up a 55 yard reception.
 

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No, it's not bad. Is it worth 2 firsts? Jury is out, but do you think a drive to get at least a FG in OT is too much to ask for at that price?
Dude he already drove us down injured with 60 seconds left and threw the TD which should've won the game. On an absolute dime to Kupp.

Meanwhile Jimmy G has one min and zero timeouts, yet drives down the field throwing to wide open WRs and a TD on a blown coverage..and you want to blame Stafford?? Jesus Christ. I guess he should've orchestrated two game winning drives in 1 min while the defense did absolutely nothing. Because that seems logical.
 

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I’d say that’s a very fair take.

I’d just say that the go ahead TD drive was very much who the Rams gave up 2 firsts for. Game should’ve never gone to OT.
That's fair enough, and McVay took the ball out of the hands of the guy he spent 2 firsts for.
 

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Dude he already drove us down injured with 60 seconds left and threw the TD which should've won the game. On an absolute dime to Kupp.

Meanwhile Jimmy G has one min and zero timeouts, yet drives down the field throwing to wide open WRs and a TD on a blown coverage..and you want to blame Stafford?? Jesus Christ. I guess he should've orchestrated two game winning drives in 1 min while the defense did absolutely nothing. Because that seems logical.

So... take a couple of steps back.

I'm not blaming Stafford. Breathe.
 

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Something struck me in Von Miller's interview this week. He said the team doesn't do anything different win or lose. That it's different from anywhere else he's played.
Then I thought about Demarco Farr talking about "niners week". It was a different level of seriousness. They knew what it meant.
And I watched McVays and the others interviews and they all downplay the rivalry. They act like it's just another week.

And it shows.
Either they feel that way or have already surrendered during the week.
 

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If Ramsey is calling out Morris.. then who's calling out Ramsey? Biggest, game-changing play on that drive was him misplaying Deebo and letting up a 55 yard reception.
Why is the best man corner in football being asked to play 15 yards off in zone?
 

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Stafford had already scored a TD with 80ish sec left to give us what should have been another 4th quarter win. Not many Coach's or DC's in the league are going to say I cant help you win if you give me a 7 point lead with 80ish seconds to go. That should have done it.

This game was such a mess that anyone can argue anything with relative conviction.

I think Fuller leaving the game had a very large impact on the outcome and specifically the 9er comeback from what should have been a game ending and winning drive

And the defense had made a stop to force a punt.

The Rams offense needed one first down.
 

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Here's where I'm at right now at this.

No.. today's loss wasn't his fault. As I've said.. I think the single biggest issue in this game was the Rams offensive line. It was the difference between victory and defeat, imo.

But, with the ball in hand and a chance to tie or win the game.. .the QB they spent two firsts on threw a pretty lame int.


That doesn't feel like a guy I want to give two first rounders up for.

We'll see in the playoffs.

Stafford also led them on a game winning drive with a perfect pass to Kupp in the corner. All our defense had to do was play a decent prevent to win. If they did that the talk would be about Stafford winning the games that matter / that's what we traded for/ etc.
 

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Sorry but 9-7 is literally just a few plays away from 8-8 or 7-9. Saying he wouldn’t have flirted with a sub .500 record because he finished 9-7 in 2019 seems like weird logic.

This 2021 team is struggling to make the playoffs with Goff. You get all the Stafford turnovers with a fraction of the explosive plays.
It's very straightforward logic. We went 9-7 with a worse team. Maybe you ignored that part. Going into this game, our OL was #1 in pass block win rate. Our 2019 OL was #22 in pass block win rate. Our 2019 rushing attack averaged less yards per game and yards per carry than our 2021 rushing attack did coming into this game. And the defenses were roughly equal.

As for your claim about 8-8 and 7-9, we were close to 11-5 than 7-9 (collapse against the 49ers and Zuerlein missing the GW FG against Seattle). Simply put, there's no good argument that we're an 8-9 team with Goff this year. It's a baseless statement.
 
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