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I do wonder how many pass plays were called vs how many Stafford audibled to. It's entirely possible that Stafford was just off tonight and was making the improper audibles.
this is basic football that all of the armchair bill walshes dont understand.

you run the best play against the defensive scheme that is being shown... its not about trying to run so many times or pass so many times.

however mcvay failed to see the obvious fact that his LT was getting owned and it was making them go backwards.
 

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lol... im just going to keep giving you chances to cry about mcvay

hopefully it will make you feel better.

yeah you are right none of this is on the players /roll eyes

And I don't give a fuck what you think.

Players weren't perfect by any means, but the head coach/playcaller was awful, worse than the players by an order of magnitude.
 

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And I don't give a fuck what you think.

Players weren't perfect by any means, but the head coach/playcaller was awful, worse than the players by an order of magnitude.
interesting because I don't give a fuck about what you think either.

so we are even there.
 

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I do wonder how many pass plays were called vs how many Stafford audibled to. It's entirely possible that Stafford was just off tonight and was making the improper audibles.
True. Also it is possible Anusrumo toggled us out of run looks pre-snap. But either way this loss was largely schematic with a panicked QB mixed in.
 

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McVay is the one that failed. Saying that the players failed to execute is a cop-out.
Lots of players failed to execute. If Stafford throws the ball out of the end zone instead of taking a sack then we are handing the ball off for a TD vs settling for a FG. Among many other bad throws and reads by Stafford.

Mcvay and others all share in the loss. It's not all on one person. Though Mcvay definitely screwed the pooch a few different ways in this one.
 

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Lots of players failed to execute. If Stafford throws the ball out of the end zone instead of taking a sack then we are handing the ball off for a TD vs settling for a FG. Among many other bad throws and reads by Stafford.

Mcvay and others all share in the loss. It's not all on one person. Though Mcvay definitely screwed the pooch a few different ways in this one.
Mcvay's biggest fault was in teh 4th quarter they made not adjustments to stop Hendrickson.

They left him on an island out there and it wasn't working.
 

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Mcvay's biggest fault was in teh 4th quarter they made not adjustments to stop Hendrickson.

They left him on an island out there and it wasn't working.
We can agree that was a pretty huge fault, right? It makes no sense not keeping someone in to help block. Even if it was KW who wasn't doing much all game. That was just downright negligent.
 

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We can agree that was a pretty huge fault, right? It makes no sense not keeping someone in to help block. Even if it was KW who wasn't doing much all game. That was just downright negligent.
he said in his presser that Thomas did well in practice... but bro are you watching the game?
 

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Lots of players failed to execute. If Stafford throws the ball out of the end zone instead of taking a sack then we are handing the ball off for a TD vs settling for a FG. Among many other bad throws and reads by Stafford.

Mcvay and others all share in the loss. It's not all on one person. Though Mcvay definitely screwed the pooch a few different ways in this one.

I'm not saying the players executed perfectly. But even perfect execution doesn't overcome terrible play calls. It doesn't overcome abandoning the running game despite netting 5.8 ypc.

And, for those of us who have been in the military, we know the buck stops at the top. If they guys beneath are not executing, that's on the head coach. And if the head coach is calling a lousy, pass-heavy gameplan against a defense that sucks against the run, even more so.
 

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he said in his presser that Thomas did well in practice... but bro are you watching the game?
He also said he wanted as many eligible receivers out running routes which I can understand. But like you said, bro wasn't watching the game unfolding in front of him. Dude was getting beat like a drum the moment he came in.
 

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Bobby Evans and Jabri Bemby laughed at pointed at how bad Thomas was tonight.

New whipping boy in town that probably has lots of snaps in his future for us.
 

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Lots of players failed to execute. If Stafford throws the ball out of the end zone instead of taking a sack then we are handing the ball off for a TD vs settling for a FG. Among many other bad throws and reads by Stafford.

Mcvay and others all share in the loss. It's not all on one person. Though Mcvay definitely screwed the pooch a few different ways in this one.
I thought the same. throw it away high through the endzone.
 

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What I don't understand is when Jackson went out why didn't Noteboom shift to LT? Thomas was clearly unprepared because his technique was down right bad. Why is Anchrum still on the team? After 4 years he's actually regressed. I complained about him when he came in before and most people didn't believe it. When an injured Noteboom is better than a healthy Anchrum what does that tell you? Cut the scrub.

When you have 3rd and one or two and you don't run what does that say about your faith in Williams as a RB? NO TEAM FEARS WILLIAMS. Kyren is a better than average RB but he isn't a RB1 that much was painfully clear. He lacks the speed to put the fear of God into a defense. It was clear the Bengals didn't bother to game plan for Williams. Why do you think I'm pounding the table for Taylor? Even if McVay throws on 3rd and short the defense has to honor the run if you have Taylor back there. If the Rams had Taylor games like this are wins instead of losses.

Where the hell is Shelley, Tomlinson, and Dotson? Kendrick can't tackle for shit. What good is a DB that can't tackle? Durant is too raw this year. Time to play Shelley and Tomlinson.

We saw the return of Morris' bend and BREAK defense which leaves the short zone undefended when playing an injured Burrows. Way to go Raheem. Witherspoon is a keeper. Kendrick is a backup talent right now until he learns how to tackle. This 1.5 gap read react DL is a loser. It slows the pass rush. Forget defending the LOS, attack damnit. To get beat by an out of sync injured QB is disgraceful and it's all on Morris. It's his loser scheme.

I was getting the hometown feed and the announcers were tearing apart Morris basic scheme because there was no deception. What Burrows read at the snap is what the Rams played. The only reason the Bengals didn't blow the Rams out was because of all the dropped passes. The Rams had a few stunts on the DL but that was it. The only time the Rams rushed 5 was when the RB stayed in to block. So the Bengals simply had him in the flats and they only got a 4 man rush for most of the game. Morris doesn't understand that the defense is a weapon if used properly. They were laughing at Morris saying as long as the Rams didn't give up the big play he didn't care if the Bengals moved the chains, it was that obvious.

Morris' passive defensive scheme is the only reason this team might not make the playoffs. He plays down to the level his perceived level of competition. When he's wrong this is the result.

Bad coaching lost this game. That much is clear. McVay, LaFleur and Morris get my crushed beer can award.
 

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Lots of players failed to execute. If Stafford throws the ball out of the end zone instead of taking a sack then we are handing the ball off for a TD vs settling for a FG. Among many other bad throws and reads by Stafford.

Mcvay and others all share in the loss. It's not all on one person. Though Mcvay definitely screwed the pooch a few different ways in this one.
There’s zero evidence McVay would’ve run the ball if Stafford woulda thrown it away. He very likely woulda just called another pass play.
 
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