Update: New NFL overtime rule…Both teams get ball in playoff games

[GoodBadUgly]

They didn't have too because Buffalo do theirs. If Buffalo defense actually did something would we be having this discussion?

I think this is the point. We're so focused on D, what about the offense?

This was a game where both offenses were FIRE (especially late in the game) and the defenses were exhausted. You could have put the '85 Bears defense out there, and both teams would have scored on them.

So the coin toss decided the game. The Chiefs D didn't even have to get on the field, yet the got the win. But more importantly, the BILLS OFFENSE never got a chance either. Freaking shame in what was an amazing game.

The rule needs to change.

 

[ramphreak]

I like the current rules with one tweak. The decision made at the opening coin toss hold true for OT also. So if you defer to the second half you also defer in OT.

If nothing else this will push teams to go for the win at the end of regulation rather than going for a tie.

 

[CGI_Ram]

NFL overtime rules could be set for an overhaul at owners' meetings

It appears the NFL has momentum from team owners and coaches to approve a rule change for both teams to have possession of the ball in overtime.

www.latimes.com

NFL overtime rules could be set for an overhaul at owners’ meetings​

The NFL is in a good place as owners head into their annual meetings this week.

Games are moving at a quicker pace. People are generally happy with instant replay. Onside kick recovery numbers are back up in an acceptable range. And heading into the final week of last season, 18 teams were still alive in the playoff race, tied for the second-most ever.

A problem is overtime rules, and those will be the primary focus as owners, coaches and executives convene to tinker with the game they love.

A pivotal moment came in the AFC playoffs, when Kansas City beat Buffalo 42-36, in an epic game that came to an abrupt end in the extra period when the Chiefs scored a touchdown on their opening possession. The football world bristled that the Bills never got a chance to touch the ball.

The odds are good of those situations happening with increased frequency, seeing as six of the final seven games in the postseason were decided by three points or fewer.

In the 12 overtime playoff games since the current rule took effect in 2010, the team that won the coin toss at the beginning of the extra period won all but two of those games — seven on the opening drive.

“I do think the statistics absolutely warrant whether our overtime rules need to be further modified,” said Atlanta Falcons President Rich McKay, chairman of the competition committee, discussing the meetings on a recent conference call with reporters.

The Philadelphia Eagles and Indianapolis Colts have made overtime proposals this year that would allow for both sides to get a possession, regardless of whether a touchdown is scored on the opening drive.

“I do think there’s a lot of momentum to have a change,” McKay said. “I think the discussion is going to be around these two proposals.”

The Tennessee Titans have floated a more nuanced idea. Under their proposal, a team could win by scoring a touchdown on the opening possession — but only by successfully converting a two-point conversion to cap that touchdown.

For a rules change to take effect, at least 24 of the 32 teams must vote in favor of it.

“That’s usually a pretty big hill to climb the first time,” McKay said. “But let’s see what happens.”

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Wow, you really are a piece of work. You cant back up your opinions, and what you do post contradicts itself and now you're just going to make shit up?
Where am I bitching about the #1 defense not playing like it?
Good grief man, take a break, gather your thoughts
You actually said the KC defense did their job... Classic

It’s not worth the effort. You’ll be happier if you use ignore. Eventually you forget they even exist. The ignore feature is like when your in a relationship with a crazy person and you finally leave them. It’s refreshing.

 

[dieterbrock]

It’s not worth the effort. You’ll be happier if you use ignore. Eventually you forget they even exist. The ignore feature is like when your in a relationship with a crazy person and you finally leave them. It’s refreshing.

Feeling relieved you never put me on ignore!!!

 

[majrleaged]

I like the way they currently are.

Bills had ample chances to win against the Chiefs, but their D screwed up both in regulation and OT. The Bengals stopped them in OT next week.

No need to get butthurt about not getting the ball because you team's D couldn't make one stop.

This. How many times have someone on this board said, they had there chance to win it. If you can't stop them from scoring a TD then your Fucked and you should be Fucked. The only thing you deserve is a kiss, some Vaseline and a pat on the butt as you leave.

 

[majrleaged]

They need to change the rule. It was always based on a misplaced concern for shortening OT, not respect for the actual game.

Bills losing to the Chiefs in OT showed how the dead hand of a wrong rule brought a dismal end to what might otherwise have been the greatest playoff game ever.

On the merits it's always argued that if a team gives up a TD on the first drive they deserve to lose. This is misplaced too.

Football is about both sides of the ball. Lots of teams have had weak defenses and great offenses, or vice versa. Both sides of both teams need to play in OT to determine who is really better.

Otherwise the coin flip can determine the winner. Just as it did in the Kansas City- Buffalo game.

Coin flip didn't decide the winner. They played and lost. Great game now go home. Next time mix in a stop.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Feeling relieved you never put me on ignore!!!

I had about ten people on ignore through the Goff trade. I’m down to about 4 now but I just added one.

 

[majrleaged]

I think this is the point. We're so focused on D, what about the offense?

This was a game where both offenses were FIRE (especially late in the game) and the defenses were exhausted. You could have put the '85 Bears defense out there, and both teams would have scored on them.

So the coin toss decided the game. The Chiefs D didn't even have to get on the field, yet the got the win. But more importantly, the BILLS OFFENSE never got a chance either. Freaking shame in what was an amazing game.

The rule needs to change.

The coin toss did not decide the game. The players did. You don't need to change the rules just because neither team could stop the other. I get tired of changing things for the outliers. Whos to say if the Bill had won the toss they would have scored? Maybe they fumble or a ball is tipped at the line of scrimage and they get intercepted. Bills lost because they had no pass rush. Thats why they paid so much to Von. Next time maybe they make the stop and win.

 

[FarNorth]

Coin flip didn't decide the winner. They played and lost. Great game now go home. Next time mix in a stop.

If the Bills had won the coin toss they would have won the game.

 

[Steve808]

I would prefer the game clock be set at say 8 minutes and both teams play until the clock runs out. The team with the most points wins the game after the extra period.

I would also be okay with the college format - except that you get the ball say on your own 40 yard line so you're not automatically in FG position if you don't gain any yards.

 

[majrleaged]

If the Bills had won the coin toss they would have won the game.

you don't really know because it didn't happen. Just because you think it, doesn't make it so. That is why they play the game. Anything can happen. That is why we love the game. If it happened to the Rams I would be pissed at the D and Morris. Don't tell Kupped. Not the OT rules.

 

[FarNorth]

you don't really know because it didn't happen. Just because you think it, doesn't make it so. That is why they play the game. Anything can happen. That is why we love the game. If it happened to the Rams I would be pissed at the D and Morris. Don't tell Kupped. Not the OT rules.

It's totally fair to blame the rules. We've seen over and over again how the NFL has gotten rules badly wrong-- what is a catch?-- and taken years to more or less straighten them out. The OT rules are another example imo.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

you don't really know because it didn't happen. Just because you think it, doesn't make it so. That is why they play the game. Anything can happen. That is why we love the game. If it happened to the Rams I would be pissed at the D and Morris. Don't tell Kupped. Not the OT rules.

Both teams defenses were gassed. It shouldn't come down to a coin toss. I'd rather watch another entire quarter than a great game end on a totally crappy note. Neither team deserved it to end that way. The fans didn't deserve it either.

I really don't know why the NFL worries about keeping OT short. I freaking love football. I'll watch a full extra quarter if they'd let me. Its better than having a coin flip have so much weight in the outcome of the game. Maybe its not fair for those teams in the next round of the playoffs but that's where you can say they should have taken care of business in regulation the week before. Consider that either one of those teams could have won that game if the toss goes their way. Its too big of a factor.

 

[dieterbrock]

you don't really know because it didn't happen. Just because you think it, doesn't make it so. That is why they play the game. Anything can happen. That is why we love the game. If it happened to the Rams I would be pissed at the D and Morris. Don't tell Kupped. Not the OT rules.

Team that won coin toss has now won 91% of the games under current format.
It’s surely not a fact to say that Buffalo would have scored, but given the nature of how successful the teams have been winning the coin toss combined with how Buffalo had scored with ease, it is a logical assumption.
Why any team would be afforded such an obvious advantage due to the flip of a coin is puzzling to me.

 

[FarNorth]

Both teams defenses were gassed. It shouldn't come down to a coin toss. I'd rather watch another entire quarter than a great game end on a totally crappy note. Neither team deserved it to end that way. The fans didn't deserve it either.

I really don't know why the NFL worries about keeping OT short. I freaking love football. I'll watch a full extra quarter if they'd let me. Its better than having a coin flip have so much weight in the outcome of the game. Maybe its not fair for those teams in the next round of the playoffs but that's where you can say they should have taken care of business in regulation the week before. Consider that either one of those teams could have won that game if the toss goes their way. Its too big of a factor.

The fans are the ones being cheated. The rule ruined what would have been an all time great playoff game.

 

[FarNorth]

Team that won coin toss has now won 91% of the games under current format.
It’s surely not a fact to say that Buffalo would have scored, but given the nature of how successful the teams have been winning the coin toss combined with how Buffalo had scored with ease, it is a logical assumption.
Why any team would be afforded such an obvious advantage due to the flip of a coin is puzzling to me.

91% is a staggering number, far beyond any random distribution. It is fair to conclude that winning the coin toss is the decisive factor in who wins the game.

 

[sloramfan]

coin toss wins in the playoffs...period...

the one or two games that it didn't happen in, are anomaly's... shouldn't have happened...

players/teams train and practice, to go four quarters,,, to give it everything, for four quarters...

oline vs dline... for four quarters, the oline know whats up... they know when they can go 80% or go 110%...

dline is going 110% every play...

now the 4th quarter just ended in a tie...

you lose the coin toss, and you (dline) get to go right back out there... gassed...

17 games of four quarters of give it all you got football, and now put your helmet on, game 18, overtime, and your in...

coin toss is critical in the postseason... and it should not be...

just ask buffalo OR kc....

go rams

slo

 

[sloramfan]

here's a OT rule change...

no hurry up... dline substitutions are all game long...

then the first team to score in overtime wins...period...

go rams

slo

 

[Ballhawk]

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