Update: New NFL overtime rule…Both teams get ball in playoff games

[RamsSince1969]

Kickers each kick from 40. Then 45. then 50. then 55, then 60, then 65. first to miss loses.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Kickers each kick from 40. Then 45. then 50. then 55, then 60, then 65. first to miss loses.

Lets add; take a shot of liquor between kicks!

 

[Jorgeh0605]

Kickers each kick from 40. Then 45. then 50. then 55, then 60, then 65. first to miss loses.

NFL should really do this. I mean think of the ads you can show between each kick!

 

[TK42-RAM]

Kickers each kick from 40. Then 45. then 50. then 55, then 60, then 65. first to miss loses.

... get offensive linesmen to take the kicks -- now that's entertainment...

 

[FrantikRam]

And people will bitch about people complaining about it?
Frankly, I dont agree with your strawman statement, I think many folks were satisfied with the change to the current format, so further improvement I believe would be appreciated.
Neither team could stop the other, I believe it was 5 straight scoring drives after the 2 minute warning. But one team was rewarded by not having to play D.

I definitely would not appreciate it. Defense is a side of the ball that needs to be played.

All the Bills had to do was play defense for 13 seconds and it doesn't go to OT. They deserved to lose the game.

 

[Giles]

Kansas City didnt have to play defense, so to your point both teams should be required to play defense

You're right the bills did....and they didn't. That's why they lost.

 

[Giles]

I definitely would not appreciate it. Defense is a side of the ball that needs to be played.

All the Bills had to do was play defense for 13 seconds and it doesn't go to OT. They deserved to lose the game.

Exactly. The bills had by far the better defense in that game and that side of the ball choked. Defensive players get paid alot of money too.

 

[dieterbrock]

I definitely would not appreciate it. Defense is a side of the ball that needs to be played.

All the Bills had to do was play defense for 13 seconds and it doesn't go to OT. They deserved to lose the game.

And Kansas City gave up 2 TD drives that took all of 1:31
Wouldn’t have gone to OT if their D could make a stop.
Alas, it’s not the point. Once OT starts it’s a clean slate. What’s done is done.
KC defense didn’t have to stop Buffalo or they would have likely lost. And that would have sucked too.
Again it’s puzzling that allowing a coin flip to determine a win isn’t an issue for some

 

[Giles]

Again it’s puzzling that allowing a coin flip to determine a win isn’t an issue for some

This has to be the biggest lie in football. If Buffalo defense did its job then the offense would've had a chance to win the game in ot. They obviously didn't in regulation and ot hence why they lost. Shoot even holding them to a FG would've worked and they couldn't even do that. How some people can't see that is what's truly puzzling.

 

[FrantikRam]

And Kansas City gave up 2 TD drives that took all of 1:31
Wouldn’t have gone to OT if their D could make a stop.
Alas, it’s not the point. Once OT starts it’s a clean slate. What’s done is done.
KC defense didn’t have to stop Buffalo or they would have likely lost. And that would have sucked too.
Again it’s puzzling that allowing a coin flip to determine a win isn’t an issue for some

You're right in that both teams could have won in regulation.

So once it goes to OT, IF your argument is that the coin toss decides the game, that's on whatever team loses for not getting it done in regulation.

And of course, the coin toss doesn't actually decide the game.

One week after the Bills couldn't stop the Chiefs in OT, the Bengals did.

Unfortunately for that argument, the reality is that the coin flip does not determine who wins in OT, as the coin toss winners have only won 52.8% of the time since requiring a TD for the game to end on the first possession.

 

[SAK11]

And Kansas City gave up 2 TD drives that took all of 1:31
Wouldn’t have gone to OT if their D could make a stop.
Alas, it’s not the point. Once OT starts it’s a clean slate. What’s done is done.
KC defense didn’t have to stop Buffalo or they would have likely lost. And that would have sucked too.
Again it’s puzzling that allowing a coin flip to determine a win isn’t an issue for some

Both defenses seemed completely gassed by the end of that game. Seemed obvious the coin toss winner would win the game. Same with New England-Kansas City a few years earlier. I want to see great QBs and great offenses have their chance to win the game. If you want to see the defense make a play, guess what? Giving both offenses a chance will actually also give BOTH defenses a chance!

Some people continue to fight against a rule change, but this poll suggests they are in the minority. There seems to be a push to get this rule changed, so hopefully it happens soon.

 

[dieterbrock]

You're right in that both teams could have won in regulation.

So once it goes to OT, IF your argument is that the coin toss decides the game, that's on whatever team loses for not getting it done in regulation.

And of course, the coin toss doesn't actually decide the game.

One week after the Bills couldn't stop the Chiefs in OT, the Bengals did.

Unfortunately for that argument, the reality is that the coin flip does not determine who wins in OT, as the coin toss winners have only won 52.8% of the time since requiring a TD for the game to end on the first possession.

You arent following.
I said the coin flip determined the winner of the KC/Buffalo game, being that neither defense could stop the other team
I didnt say it decides every OT game
Had Buffalo won the coin toss, and scored a TD, I would feel the same way.
I am simply fascinated that there is such a resistance to such a reasonable solution. Why not make it equitable and let both teams get a possession? It just makes too much sense not to do it.
Would also make the game more exciting, a team down 7, gets the ball and scores a TD. They decide to go for 2....

 

[dieterbrock]

Exactly. The bills had by far the better defense in that game and that side of the ball choked. Defensive players get paid alot of money too.

Kansas City defense gave up 2 TD drives in the final 1:54, giving up the lead both times. If defense is so important, what did KC defense do to "get paid alot of money too"? Other then watch a coin flip prevent them from having to play?

 

[FrantikRam]

You arent following.
I said the coin flip determined the winner of the KC/Buffalo game, being that neither defense could stop the other team
I didnt say it decides every OT game
Had Buffalo won the coin toss, and scored a TD, I would feel the same way.
I am simply fascinated that there is such a resistance to such a reasonable solution. Why not make it equitable and let both teams get a possession? It just makes too much sense not to do it.
Would also make the game more exciting, a team down 7, gets the ball and scores a TD. They decide to go for 2....

Because you're trying to fix something that isn't broken.

53%. Not broken.

Unless you're suggesting that this fix only be implemented in games that feature no defense like the Chiefs/Bills?

Otherwise - 53%.

 

[Memento]

Eagles proposal, easily. I don’t think anyone really wants to have everything depend on the flip of a coin.

 

[dieterbrock]

Because you're trying to fix something that isn't broken.

53%. Not broken.

Unless you're suggesting that this fix only be implemented in games that feature no defense like the Chiefs/Bills?

Otherwise - 53%.

Well you are wrong, It is broken when both teams arent getting the same opportunity.
"Under these rules, coin toss winners ended up prevailing in 52.8 percent of overtime games, per NFL Research. That's far from decisive.
But in the playoffs, coin toss winners are 10-1, winning 90.9 percent of overtime contests. Seven of the 10 winners scored the sudden-death touchdown on the opening drive. New Orleans was the only team to lose, falling to the Rams in 2018, and that game had its own share of controversy in regulation."

Andy Reid empathizes with Bills after overtime loss: 'I wouldn't be opposed' to OT rules change

It was broken when they attempted to "fix" OT with the current rule. And it isnt working.

 

[Giles]

Kansas City defense gave up 2 TD drives in the final 1:54, giving up the lead both times. If defense is so important, what did KC defense do to "get paid alot of money too"? Other then watch a coin flip prevent them from having to play?

If kc lost the same way than the same the same thing applies. Play fuckin defense and you win. This "the game was decided by a coin flip" is just a lazy bs excuse for the defense not doing its job.

 

[dieterbrock]

If kc lost the same way than the same the same thing applies. Play fuckin defense and you win. This "the game was decided by a coin flip" is just a lazy bs excuse for the defense not doing its job.

So KC defense did their job?

 

[Giles]

So KC defense did their job?

Yea they did and Buffalo didn't.

 

[dieterbrock]

Yea they did and Buffalo didn't.

How did they do their job? Did they stop Buffalo? They let Buffalo take the lead, TWICE in the 4th Q. This after blowing a 9 point lead. SO since you are all down on Buffalo not "doing their job", explain how KC did theirs?