We could do much worse and if we have to "settle for" Schoonmaker while grabbing an Edge and CB, how bad is that?
Trade Up Discussion
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Totally, I'm down with him in the 3rd, just not so sure the other guys make it there.
Leave R2.36 alone to pick up a plug and play player. Trade down from R3.77 to get more picks.
Example: Rams trade R3.77 and R5.177 for Browns R3.98, R4.111 and R4.126. Value chart shows it’s a fair trade.
Then get Edge, IOL, CB, (RB or WR) and TE (in no particular order) with first 5 picks.
I’m seeing too many plug and play IOL to pass up. Some will be gone earlier than R2.36 but Torrence, Avila, Mauch, Schwartz, Tippman, Bergeron, Steen, Wright are IMO too good to pass up completely.
Torrence isn't a fit for the sort of OLs McVay has pursued.Good to hear. They're 1-2 according to this (random) site. Torrence is bigger, and is known for run blocking (which I think is what Stafford needs the most) though.
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The only trade-up should be for O'Cyrus Torrence, we NEED some NFL caliber guards, not the same shit we have been rolling out there. That being said, I would rather a trade down and maybe accumulate an additional late 3rd rounder, people, we only have 44 players currently under contract. And please, no more talk about Gibbs in the 2nd or a trade-up for him. We HAVE many more pressing needs.
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True but if they considered him a non-fit they wouldn't have interviewed him. Maybe they are considering a different approach.
And maybe that's one of the reasons we haven't run the ball worth a damn outside of Gurley the last 5+ years.
Maybe. It would surprise me. Napier did run a ZBS. But Torrence isn't the most fleet-flooted guy. And to this point, McVay has preferred quickness and intelligence to size and power. But yeah, maybe with the new OL Coach, he's changing his approach.
Certainly hope Rams are considering a different approach. They need to be.
Imo the collapse last year of the oline, and players not being ready or able to step in and stay healthy, were more than bad luck.
Firing Carberry strongly suggests McVay got the message. Do you bring in someone new to run the same system which just failed?
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It's also a system that has succeeded in the past. So now what do we do attribute it to a one off bad luck and keep it or do we change the system? That's something only Sean McVay can answer we're all just guessing around here. But we just brought in a guy who was Aaron Kromer's assistant for the last 4 years and still have Kromer Jr on the staff. What did we run when Aaron Kromer was our OL coach? Pretty sure it was the same system so the guy coaching the OL might suggest we're staying the same.
I'm going to be that guy for a second but I never really understood that Einstein quote. The definition of insanity is being seriously mentally ill. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result would only seem to be an example of insanity.
Anyways to the point, yes that system just failed but that was also after a historical amount of injuries to the OL. Iirc the amount of injuries to the OL last year were quantifiable as the most amount of meaningful injuries to a single unit in recent memory.
Prior to last season the OL and offensive system in general had been pretty successful under McVay from 2017-2021.
It's almost like they were injured or something.
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You could look at this two ways. 1) It would be a waste of draft capital to jump into the 1st round for a guy that isn't talented enough to warrant it. 2) The end of the first round could be a buyers market and jumping into it might not cost as much as it would in years past and you'd be grabbing a guy you love with a fifth year option as a bonus.
I don't think option 2 is ultimately worth it weighing all the factors the Rams are dealing with but I guess you could make an argument and maybe make a low ball offer if there's a guy sitting there as the clock ticks down on Thur night.
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No disrespect to McVay the OL with Whit was solid in 2021 but Carberry was let go 2022 the season where we had the worst Ol injuries in just under 50 years of any team in the league.
Question why was Carberry let go when 2022 was an EXTREME outlier. I would have kept him. The record of our new OL coach who was an asst OL coach was nothing to speak of. Buffalo was middle of the pack on a very successful team which makes the OL look better than they probably were.